looking for a traditional muzzleloader.

moisanfan11 · January 26, 2013, 04:20 PM

Any suggestions on the make/model i should get. Also what are somethings i should look for on the rifle i want

Pahoo · January 26, 2013, 04:33 PM

Well, you need to give us just a little more information that will help us to help you. Have you seen pictures of anything you like? Most folks start out with a half-stock, .50cal. and percussion. ....

Then again, it's possible you might want a full-stock, .40 or .45, in a flinter. ...

Be Safe !!!

B.L.E. · January 26, 2013, 05:14 PM

If you want to shoot the traditional patched roundball, you'll want a barrel with slow twist rifling, no faster than one turn in 48 inches, preferably one turn in 66 or even 72 inches.

There are some traditional styled rifles that have fast rifling twist suitable for bullets, usually one turn in 28 inches.

The Lyman Great Plains rifle is available in a round ball twist and is more true to the actual rifles made by Hawkin than the TC Hawkin rifles are.

Pedersoli also makes a large variety of traditional and historically accurate long rifles.

Hawg · January 26, 2013, 05:25 PM

+1 on the Great Plains.

deerslayer303 · January 26, 2013, 05:59 PM

+2 on the Great Plains. But then again I may have a biased opinion

Wyosmith · January 26, 2013, 06:25 PM

I earn my living making them.
Maybe I can help?

moisanfan11 · January 26, 2013, 08:05 PM

A nice hawken in 45 caliber flintlock would be something i would like

Pahoo · January 26, 2013, 08:27 PM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=327367674

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=327435381

But keep looking and;
Be Safe !!!

Archie Otto · January 26, 2013, 08:54 PM

It really depends on how deep of pockets you have. You could go with something from the factory like traditions, lyman or cabelas even pick up a used T/C hawken for under $700. Or you can look into one of the private builders and get something really special but you're going to pay more and i mean the sky is the limit depending on the builder and what specific designs you are looking for..

**4V50 Gary** · January 27, 2013, 12:31 AM

I like the Great Plains. If you want something modern that will hit out past 500 yards, Parker Hale Enfield sergeant's rifle (33" bbl). The original was the choice weapon to arm the Confederate sharp shooter battalions. The Corn-feds would hit out to 1,000 with them.

maillemaker · January 29, 2013, 12:39 PM

You might want to check out the N-SSA (http://www.n-ssa.org) and see if there is a local group you could check out. There you can see a whole host of Civil War-era black powder muzzle loaders.

As was said, a lot depends on what you are into and what you mean by "traditional". Are you looking for a match lock? Flint lock? Percussion? Are you looking for a rifled barrel or a smoothbore? Are you after some particular era in history?

Steve

January 26, 2013, 04:20 PM	#1
moisanfan11 Member Join Date: December 1, 2012 Location: flagstaff, az Posts: 58	looking for a traditional muzzleloader. Any suggestions on the make/model i should get. Also what are somethings i should look for on the rifle i want __________________ Guns can't decide to kill , it's the people using the gun that decide to pull the trigger

January 26, 2013, 04:33 PM	#2
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	First the practicals and then the particulars !!! Well, you need to give us just a little more information that will help us to help you. Have you seen pictures of anything you like? Most folks start out with a half-stock, .50cal. and percussion. .... Then again, it's possible you might want a full-stock, .40 or .45, in a flinter. ... Be Safe !!! __________________ 'Fundamental truths' are easy to recognize because they are verified daily through simple observation and thus, require no testing.

January 26, 2013, 05:59 PM	#5
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	+2 on the Great Plains. But then again I may have a biased opinion __________________ "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson

January 26, 2013, 08:05 PM	#7
moisanfan11 Member Join Date: December 1, 2012 Location: flagstaff, az Posts: 58	A nice hawken in 45 caliber flintlock would be something i would like __________________ Guns can't decide to kill , it's the people using the gun that decide to pull the trigger

January 26, 2013, 08:27 PM	#8
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	They are out there !! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=327367674 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=327435381 But keep looking and; Be Safe !!! __________________ 'Fundamental truths' are easy to recognize because they are verified daily through simple observation and thus, require no testing.

January 26, 2013, 05:14 PM	#3
B.L.E. Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Somewhere on the Southern shore of Lake Travis, TX Posts: 2,603	If you want to shoot the traditional patched roundball, you'll want a barrel with slow twist rifling, no faster than one turn in 48 inches, preferably one turn in 66 or even 72 inches. There are some traditional styled rifles that have fast rifling twist suitable for bullets, usually one turn in 28 inches. The Lyman Great Plains rifle is available in a round ball twist and is more true to the actual rifles made by Hawkin than the TC Hawkin rifles are. Pedersoli also makes a large variety of traditional and historically accurate long rifles.

January 26, 2013, 05:25 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	+1 on the Great Plains.

January 26, 2013, 06:25 PM	#6
Wyosmith Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Location: Shoshoni Wyoming Posts: 2,713	I earn my living making them. Maybe I can help?

January 26, 2013, 08:54 PM	#9
Archie Otto Member Join Date: January 7, 2013 Posts: 18	It really depends on how deep of pockets you have. You could go with something from the factory like traditions, lyman or cabelas even pick up a used T/C hawken for under $700. Or you can look into one of the private builders and get something really special but you're going to pay more and i mean the sky is the limit depending on the builder and what specific designs you are looking for..

January 27, 2013, 12:31 AM	#10
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,831	I like the Great Plains. If you want something modern that will hit out past 500 yards, Parker Hale Enfield sergeant's rifle (33" bbl). The original was the choice weapon to arm the Confederate sharp shooter battalions. The Corn-feds would hit out to 1,000 with them. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

January 29, 2013, 12:39 PM	#11
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	You might want to check out the N-SSA (http://www.n-ssa.org) and see if there is a local group you could check out. There you can see a whole host of Civil War-era black powder muzzle loaders. As was said, a lot depends on what you are into and what you mean by "traditional". Are you looking for a match lock? Flint lock? Percussion? Are you looking for a rifled barrel or a smoothbore? Are you after some particular era in history? Steve