CNN says bolt action = assault rifle = shotgun

Guy B. Meredith · August 22, 2013, 12:50 PM

Time for us to use the feedback option and educate CNN. Reporter Randi Kaye hosts two segments on the Oklahoma thugs, showing a video of Edwards with a firearm. In one she refers to it as an assault weapon, in the other a shotgun.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...spect.cnn.html

Then flood their email with corrections.

Edit: I hadn't paid attention to the muzzle, appears to be shotgun. The side view here looked like scoped rifle. I hope they corrected their original assault rifle comment.

johnwilliamson062 · August 22, 2013, 01:18 PM

page not found is all I get.

Evan Thomas · August 22, 2013, 01:21 PM

She never uses the term "assault rifle." She calls the gun a shotgun and a weapon. The reference to a handgun is to a handgun -- in the next series of photos.

Nothing much to see here, I'd say.

jag2 · August 22, 2013, 02:41 PM

Looks okay to me, don't see or hear what you are getting at. Quite honestly, I don't expect a reporter to get everything right. I doubt that the major networks have a firearm expert on staff. If they aren't familiar with fire arms, no big deal. Chances are she may have never even handled a firearm and may not be the one who wrote the script. I grew up in Texas and if some of you northerners start talking about ice hockey I wouldn't have a clue. I guess you play it on ice, right?

DaleA · August 22, 2013, 10:31 PM

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-if some of you northerners start talking about ice hockey I wouldn't have a clue. I guess you play it on ice, right?

Says the guy from the state that got the Minnesota North Stars and turned 'em into the 'Dallas Stars'!!!

(Never did understand why they didn't rename 'em the 'Dallas Lone Stars'. Just sayin...)

jag2 · August 22, 2013, 10:39 PM

DaleA, you can have them back. I think he lost his ass on that deal, you could probably get them pretty cheap. We only use ice to keep our beer cold.

tulsamal · August 23, 2013, 03:18 PM

I'm here in NE Oklahoma and watch Channel 8 out of Tulsa. They did a segment on those guys last night. And they showed the one guy holding a black bolt action rifle with a scope. At one point he points it towards the camera. They showed him and the rifle from several angles and most certainly did say that the video showed "the alleged perpetrator with an assault rifle." Bolt action rifle with a scope. Looked like a generic deer rifle. Probably holds 4-5 rounds of ammo.

Kind of like when they say somebody was bitten by a pit bull and then they show a photo of a cocker spaniel or labrador retriever...

Gregg

Nathan · August 23, 2013, 04:51 PM

Look at the muzzle. . .looks like a bolt action shotgun. I'm not sure.

baddarryl · August 23, 2013, 05:49 PM

Could anyone make out what he was saying in that video?

TXAZ · August 23, 2013, 06:14 PM

It looked like he also had his finger on the trigger, just before in the clip where shows the 100 dollar bills. Gee I'm impressed with the guy and reporting

NOT!

**44 AMP** · August 24, 2013, 10:34 AM

What Mark Twain said about newspapers applies even more strongly to broadcasting....

TXAZ · August 24, 2013, 10:50 AM

44Amp secretly smirked saying

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What Mark Twain said about newspapers applies even more strongly to broadcasting....

I've always found it amusing the TelePrompTer readers are called "talent".

But on a more serious note it is important to respond, in most any way, to factually incorrect 'reporting'. Failure to do so gives incremental credibility to those who may proffer opinions as fact supported by falsehoods.

Joe_Pike · August 25, 2013, 06:42 PM

There was an article in a local paper this week that named an SKS as an assault weapon. They just never get it.

Theohazard · August 25, 2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe_Pike

There was an article in a local paper this week that named an SKS as an assault weapon. They just never get it.

Oh they get it, alright. The SKS is definitely an assault weapon. So is any other firearm they deem "scary". That's the brilliance of the made-up term "assault weapon"; it can be molded to mean any firearm they want it to be, because there is no such thing as an "assault weapon" in the technical sense.

True assault rifles and machine guns are all but banned already and have been for years. Inventing the term "assault weapon" was a way for gun banners to fool people into thinking they're a distinctly dangerous class of weapon. And it's working.

Armed_Chicagoan · August 25, 2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jag2

DaleA, you can have them back. I think he lost his ass on that deal, you could probably get them pretty cheap. We only use ice to keep our beer cold.

But you have to say this for the Dallas Stars fans, they stay through the whole 3rd period.

Of course, that's because they think there's a 4th...

Lucas McCain · August 26, 2013, 12:48 AM

"NORM SUCKS" that what we chanted at the last North Stars game when they skated off the ice. When the Wild started playing in the new Xcel arena and the Dallas Stars skated out on the Ice they where greeted with the chant,"NORM SUCKS" . Nobody up here is pineing over the Stars moving.
The North Star signs make excellent targets for patterning 410 revovers. Hopr this qualifys now as a gun post.

FrosSsT · August 27, 2013, 06:08 PM

Here is one for you guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdW6oEr1ftY

Glenn E. Meyer · August 27, 2013, 06:12 PM

Next time, please add a comment. Helps the mods - it's somebody flipping over a Mosin-Nagant with a bayonet.

August 22, 2013, 12:50 PM	#1
Guy B. Meredith Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 1999 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 1,581	CNN says bolt action = assault rifle = shotgun Time for us to use the feedback option and educate CNN. Reporter Randi Kaye hosts two segments on the Oklahoma thugs, showing a video of Edwards with a firearm. In one she refers to it as an assault weapon, in the other a shotgun. http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...spect.cnn.html Then flood their email with corrections. Edit: I hadn't paid attention to the muzzle, appears to be shotgun. The side view here looked like scoped rifle. I hope they corrected their original assault rifle comment. __________________ Smart Gun + 1 Battery + 3 Wires = Dumb Gun PC = Agenda driven groupthink filter on reality. Apostrophes denote ownership or missing letters NOT plurals! Last edited by Evan Thomas; August 22, 2013 at 01:22 PM. Reason: fixed broken link.

August 22, 2013, 01:21 PM	#3
Evan Thomas Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 5,631	She never uses the term "assault rifle." She calls the gun a shotgun and a weapon. The reference to a handgun is to a handgun -- in the next series of photos. Nothing much to see here, I'd say. __________________ Never let anything mechanical know you're in a hurry.

August 23, 2013, 06:14 PM	#10
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	It looked like he also had his finger on the trigger, just before in the clip where shows the 100 dollar bills. Gee I'm impressed with the guy and reporting NOT! __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes Last edited by TXAZ; August 23, 2013 at 06:32 PM.

August 24, 2013, 10:34 AM	#11
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,846	What Mark Twain said about newspapers applies even more strongly to broadcasting.... __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

August 25, 2013, 06:42 PM	#13
Joe_Pike Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2010 Posts: 1,581	There was an article in a local paper this week that named an SKS as an assault weapon. They just never get it. __________________ Stay Groovy

August 22, 2013, 01:18 PM	#2
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	page not found is all I get.

August 22, 2013, 02:41 PM	#4
jag2 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2009 Location: dallas Posts: 773	Looks okay to me, don't see or hear what you are getting at. Quite honestly, I don't expect a reporter to get everything right. I doubt that the major networks have a firearm expert on staff. If they aren't familiar with fire arms, no big deal. Chances are she may have never even handled a firearm and may not be the one who wrote the script. I grew up in Texas and if some of you northerners start talking about ice hockey I wouldn't have a clue. I guess you play it on ice, right?

August 22, 2013, 10:39 PM	#6
jag2 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2009 Location: dallas Posts: 773	DaleA, you can have them back. I think he lost his ass on that deal, you could probably get them pretty cheap. We only use ice to keep our beer cold.

August 23, 2013, 03:18 PM	#7
tulsamal Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2004 Location: Vinita, OK Posts: 2,552	I'm here in NE Oklahoma and watch Channel 8 out of Tulsa. They did a segment on those guys last night. And they showed the one guy holding a black bolt action rifle with a scope. At one point he points it towards the camera. They showed him and the rifle from several angles and most certainly did say that the video showed "the alleged perpetrator with an assault rifle." Bolt action rifle with a scope. Looked like a generic deer rifle. Probably holds 4-5 rounds of ammo. Kind of like when they say somebody was bitten by a pit bull and then they show a photo of a cocker spaniel or labrador retriever... Gregg

August 23, 2013, 04:51 PM	#8
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,333	Look at the muzzle. . .looks like a bolt action shotgun. I'm not sure.

August 23, 2013, 05:49 PM	#9
baddarryl Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2011 Location: Cape Fear! Posts: 1,683	Could anyone make out what he was saying in that video?

August 26, 2013, 12:48 AM	#16
Lucas McCain Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2013 Location: Callaway, MN Posts: 361	"NORM SUCKS" that what we chanted at the last North Stars game when they skated off the ice. When the Wild started playing in the new Xcel arena and the Dallas Stars skated out on the Ice they where greeted with the chant,"NORM SUCKS" . Nobody up here is pineing over the Stars moving. The North Star signs make excellent targets for patterning 410 revovers. Hopr this qualifys now as a gun post. __________________ If you have time to do it twice, then you have time to do it once right and put your name on it

August 27, 2013, 06:08 PM	#17
FrosSsT Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 595	Here is one for you guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdW6oEr1ftY

August 27, 2013, 06:12 PM	#18
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Next time, please add a comment. Helps the mods - it's somebody flipping over a Mosin-Nagant with a bayonet. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens