Colt Dragoon

Michel · May 21, 2009, 01:26 AM

Hello,

Does any body has information about this particular accessory found on some original 3rd generation Colt Dragoon ?

Regards.

Smokin_Gun · May 21, 2009, 02:55 AM

I think that you'd have to buy one and dovetail the barrel to make one fit. Try Dixie Gun Works, or VTI. I have a 1st Model Colt Signature Dragoon no flip site.

Michel · May 21, 2009, 04:11 AM

Hello,

Yes, I'm ready to do that, on the fact that it was fitted on some 3rd generation original Colt, but I would like to be absolutely sure that this is not a modern improvement added in 19xx years....

I need some more information, I got only this picture from a magazine, if any people have experienced ???

Also, I would like to know the specific name of this add-on, to carry out some google search.

Regards,

Hawg · May 21, 2009, 06:19 AM

Folding leaf sights were original to some third model Dragoons from 1851-1860 but only on ones with shoulder stock cutouts.

madcratebuilder · May 21, 2009, 08:32 AM

What hawg said. Shoulder stock models had the added sight. The 3rd gen, 3rd Dragoon, military model was made to use a shoulder stock, but no shoulder stocks were ever built.

I've read that Uberti made a shoulder stock Dragoon several years ago. I have not seen one and I'm looking.

If you locate a dove tail flip up sight would you please post a link.

Michel · May 21, 2009, 10:18 AM

Hello,

Thanks for the correct terminology that I was looking for !

Two more pictures illustrating this feature attached.

If I got other stuff I will add it, may be this could be an improvement for Colt enthousiasts and to be a serious challenger for Remington 1858 users.
But I will mind to that a couple of days, before I use my milling machine against the brand new Dragoon barrel ...

Have a nice day.

Fingers McGee · May 21, 2009, 11:29 AM

ASM madethe military model 3rd Model Dragoons in the 70's that have the folding leaf sight. Some came with the matching shoulder stock. They show up on the auction sites from time to time.

Dingoboyx · May 21, 2009, 12:09 PM

Cool gun/rifle

Awesome

When I look at it tho, my beady little eyes go straight to the bottom front of the fame, and wonder how hard/easy it would be to bend the frame down (& open the flashgap) Thank goodness it has a steel frame, not brass

IMO, beautiful to look at, but I would be terrified of bending it by accident

madcratebuilder · May 21, 2009, 09:47 PM

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When I look at it tho, my beady little eyes go straight to the bottom front of the fame, and wonder how hard/easy it would be to bend the frame down (& open the flashgap) Thank goodness it has a steel frame, not brass

The barrel lug assembly is secured to the revolver at the arbor by the wedge. The bottom of the barrel lug does not have to contact the frame. I like a clearance of .001-.002 between the lug and the frame when the barrel is bottomed on the arbor The barrel lug is centered by two locating pins at the bottom of the frame.

Dingoboyx · May 22, 2009, 04:31 AM

But I would still be worried about it bending over time due to no backstrap, from heavy loads or accidental abuse (slipping over while carrying it etc)

I love the gun, dont get me wrong.... it looks great

Hawg · May 22, 2009, 05:11 AM

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But I would still be worried about it bending over time due to no backstrap, from heavy loads or accidental abuse (slipping over while carrying it etc)

Not gonna happen.

bprevolver · May 23, 2009, 01:01 PM

Replica Shoulder Stocks with both steel and brass hardware were made for the 3rd Model Dragoon in the 1960's and 1970's. The steel hardware stocks have become extremely expensive. On sold on Ebay around three years ago for $800. There was a 3rd Model Dragoon with a brass hardware shoulder stock on one of the auction a while back. The Flip rear sight was pretty standard for the 3rd Model Dragoon cut for shoulder stock. There is another variation of the replica 3rd Model Dragoon CSS with a fixed rear sight. This is a rare version.

arcticap · May 24, 2009, 05:33 PM

$39 listed under rear sights - misc.:

http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/c...tegory_Code=RS

May 21, 2009, 02:55 AM	#2
Smokin_Gun Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, CA Posts: 1,195	I think that you'd have to buy one and dovetail the barrel to make one fit. Try Dixie Gun Works, or VTI. I have a 1st Model Colt Signature Dragoon no flip site. __________________ "I Smoke Black Powder" "Favor an 1858 Remington" SGT. Smokin' Gun, Mosby's Rangers 43rd Virginia Cavalry C.S.A. SASS# 19634, ... Admin:http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots/index.php

May 21, 2009, 04:11 AM	#3
Michel Junior Member Join Date: May 21, 2009 Posts: 3	Colt Dragoon Hello, Yes, I'm ready to do that, on the fact that it was fitted on some 3rd generation original Colt, but I would like to be absolutely sure that this is not a modern improvement added in 19xx years.... I need some more information, I got only this picture from a magazine, if any people have experienced ??? Also, I would like to know the specific name of this add-on, to carry out some google search. Regards, Last edited by Michel; May 21, 2009 at 05:20 AM.

May 21, 2009, 11:29 AM	#7
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	ASM madethe military model 3rd Model Dragoons in the 70's that have the folding leaf sight. Some came with the matching shoulder stock. They show up on the auction sites from time to time. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

May 21, 2009, 12:09 PM	#8
Dingoboyx Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: South East Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,513	Wow Cool gun/rifle Awesome When I look at it tho, my beady little eyes go straight to the bottom front of the fame, and wonder how hard/easy it would be to bend the frame down (& open the flashgap) Thank goodness it has a steel frame, not brass IMO, beautiful to look at, but I would be terrified of bending it by accident __________________ Muzza If you cant blind them with brilliance, Baffle them with BS Be alert...... there is a shortage of LERTs

May 22, 2009, 04:31 AM	#10
Dingoboyx Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: South East Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,513	Sounds good MCB ^ But I would still be worried about it bending over time due to no backstrap, from heavy loads or accidental abuse (slipping over while carrying it etc) I love the gun, dont get me wrong.... it looks great __________________ Muzza If you cant blind them with brilliance, Baffle them with BS Be alert...... there is a shortage of LERTs

May 21, 2009, 06:19 AM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Folding leaf sights were original to some third model Dragoons from 1851-1860 but only on ones with shoulder stock cutouts.

May 21, 2009, 08:32 AM	#5
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	What hawg said. Shoulder stock models had the added sight. The 3rd gen, 3rd Dragoon, military model was made to use a shoulder stock, but no shoulder stocks were ever built. I've read that Uberti made a shoulder stock Dragoon several years ago. I have not seen one and I'm looking. If you locate a dove tail flip up sight would you please post a link.

May 23, 2009, 01:01 PM	#12
bprevolver Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 141	Shoulder stock for Dragoon Replica Shoulder Stocks with both steel and brass hardware were made for the 3rd Model Dragoon in the 1960's and 1970's. The steel hardware stocks have become extremely expensive. On sold on Ebay around three years ago for $800. There was a 3rd Model Dragoon with a brass hardware shoulder stock on one of the auction a while back. The Flip rear sight was pretty standard for the 3rd Model Dragoon cut for shoulder stock. There is another variation of the replica 3rd Model Dragoon CSS with a fixed rear sight. This is a rare version.

May 24, 2009, 05:33 PM	#13
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	$39 listed under rear sights - misc.: http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/c...tegory_Code=RS