Best deals in C&R guns

SPUSCG · August 14, 2011, 07:55 PM

I love older guns, they all had unique character, I'm wondering what the best deals are, pretty much just padding the collection.

CWKahrFan · August 14, 2011, 08:28 PM

Give me a hint... Hand guns? Long guns? Western type? Military type?...??

jonnyc · August 14, 2011, 08:36 PM

If pistols, you want to check out Yugo M57 Tokarevs and Czech CZ 82s.

SPUSCG · August 14, 2011, 09:26 PM

Handguns mostly, dont have space for rifles....yet. Im lloking at a hard chrome yugo tokarev and getting a nagant m1895 this week, theres p64s for good prices but ive heard they kind of suck? The cz82 seems cool, gotta look it up a little more.

mgr52 · August 14, 2011, 09:51 PM

the Nagant is the first one that I can think of...such an interesting piece of history to say the least

JG has them for $99 now

LarryNTX · August 14, 2011, 09:55 PM

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theres p64s for good prices but ive heard they kind of suck?

I disagree. I think the P64 is about the best deal out there in C&R guns.
The double action trigger is really bad, but that can be fixed with a $5.00 replacement spring from Wolff.
The overall quality, finish, function, and accuracy is superb.

noelf2 · August 15, 2011, 12:36 PM

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I disagree. I think the P64 is about the best deal out there in C&R guns.

+1

CWKahrFan · August 15, 2011, 01:42 PM

..."Im lloking at a hard chrome yugo tokarev"...

I really like mine A LOT... Here's a link to a thread I started a couple of months ago with info and pics concerning it:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454592

SPUSCG · August 15, 2011, 09:16 PM

BTW who has CZ52s in stock? Can't find them anywhere.

CWKahrFan · August 15, 2011, 09:49 PM

If you go to Gunbroker.com and type CZ 52 in the search box, there's a few on there...

SPUSCG · August 17, 2011, 07:30 PM

Ordering my nagant m1895 tomorrow.

zombieslayer · August 17, 2011, 08:37 PM

Get a CZ52 if you find a deal. And the 82's are really great shooters as well.

SPUSCG · August 18, 2011, 03:16 PM

What can i find for my nagant (ordered it should arrive monday) to shoot, can;t find 7.62 nagant, 32 hr and 32 sw long local, wondering if .32 acp can shoot or any other calibers, theres tons of 327 federal?

zombieslayer · August 18, 2011, 09:37 PM

There should be some out there somewhere. No do not try using 327 federal. More ibtelligent folks than me should be able to tell you what is safe.

Cheapshooter · August 18, 2011, 10:33 PM

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I disagree. I think the P64 is about the best deal out there in C&R guns.

+2
A P-64, and a CZ 82 for sure. M57 or any other Tokarev variant if you can find one. Walther P-1 if anybody comes up with another shipment of them!

tubbyfirefighter · August 19, 2011, 07:43 AM

I missed a tokarev at an expo once, it went for $125. Still kicking myself today. Sportsmans guide even had ammo for it $112 for 1200 rounds, darn!

SPUSCG · August 20, 2011, 11:42 AM

What will happen if i try and shoot .32 acp in the standard cylinder? Ive heard it will fire but sometimes have light strikes? Is it accurate at all, i just want to shoot the thing on monday when i get it.

essohbe · August 20, 2011, 04:35 PM

^ I was going to do that also but ended up putting the $ into a Tok.

And yea, the CZ-82's are awesome C&R guns except the slide-stop springs like to break. Had to replace mine 2 times with this one guy's aftermarket ones he sells.

JiminTexas · August 20, 2011, 09:37 PM

Try the Sarco ads (Shotgun News) and look for the Spanish Star Modelo Super in 9mmx23. They are roughly thre equivalent of a .38 Super in power and look somewhat like a 1911. For $165 + $20 or so shipping you get a C&R pistol in very good condition.

CWKahrFan · August 20, 2011, 09:59 PM

Oooops...

tobnpr · August 21, 2011, 02:54 PM

CZ-82!
Buy one, you won't be disappointed.

And yeah, i busted the slide stop spring when I hastily disassembled the pistol for a Duracoat job. Simple enough to make another one from a piece of spring-steel wire...from a fishing bobber

Cheapshooter · August 21, 2011, 10:30 PM

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Try the Sarco ads (Shotgun News) and look for the Spanish Star Modelo Super in 9mmx23. They are roughly thre equivalent of a .38 Super in power and look somewhat like a 1911. For $165 + $20 or so shipping you get a C&R pistol in very good condition.

You should have included a warning to the OP: The Star Super in 9X23 is chambered for 9X23 Largo, NOT the more powerful 9X23 Winchester!!!

I just checked their SN add on line, and it is even more confusing. It says on the top of the add for the super B Star 9X19. then further down in the details it says 38 super performance. Below the Star add is another add for the 9MM Largo ammo. WHAT ARE THEY ACTUALLY SELLING???

chack · August 21, 2011, 10:33 PM

Is a tokerev still a C&R if it has been chromed?

SPUSCG · August 22, 2011, 08:51 AM

I dont have a c&R licence yet, i just like the class of gun, i love older more historical pieces and i like good values.

Cheapshooter · August 22, 2011, 10:50 AM

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I dont have a c&R licence yet, i just like the class of gun, i love older more historical pieces and i like good values.

Getting your C&R is a must if you enjoy historical firearms. Then you get to watch your safe fill up as your bank account empties!!!

August 14, 2011, 07:55 PM	#1
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	Best deals in C&R guns I love older guns, they all had unique character, I'm wondering what the best deals are, pretty much just padding the collection. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

August 14, 2011, 08:28 PM	#2
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 2,016	Give me a hint... Hand guns? Long guns? Western type? Military type?...?? __________________ What did Mrs. Bullet say to Mr. Bullet? ... "We're having a BeeBee!"... IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

August 14, 2011, 09:26 PM	#4
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	Handguns mostly, dont have space for rifles....yet. Im lloking at a hard chrome yugo tokarev and getting a nagant m1895 this week, theres p64s for good prices but ive heard they kind of suck? The cz82 seems cool, gotta look it up a little more. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

August 15, 2011, 01:42 PM	#8
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 2,016	..."Im lloking at a hard chrome yugo tokarev"... I really like mine A LOT... Here's a link to a thread I started a couple of months ago with info and pics concerning it: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454592 __________________ What did Mrs. Bullet say to Mr. Bullet? ... "We're having a BeeBee!"... IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

August 15, 2011, 09:16 PM	#9
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	BTW who has CZ52s in stock? Can't find them anywhere. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

August 14, 2011, 08:36 PM	#3
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	If pistols, you want to check out Yugo M57 Tokarevs and Czech CZ 82s.

August 14, 2011, 09:51 PM	#5
mgr52 Member Join Date: May 31, 2010 Posts: 42	the Nagant is the first one that I can think of...such an interesting piece of history to say the least JG has them for $99 now

August 15, 2011, 09:49 PM	#10
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 2,016	If you go to Gunbroker.com and type CZ 52 in the search box, there's a few on there... __________________ What did Mrs. Bullet say to Mr. Bullet? ... "We're having a BeeBee!"... IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

August 17, 2011, 07:30 PM	#11
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	Ordering my nagant m1895 tomorrow. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

August 17, 2011, 08:37 PM	#12
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Get a CZ52 if you find a deal. And the 82's are really great shooters as well. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 18, 2011, 03:16 PM	#13
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	What can i find for my nagant (ordered it should arrive monday) to shoot, can;t find 7.62 nagant, 32 hr and 32 sw long local, wondering if .32 acp can shoot or any other calibers, theres tons of 327 federal? __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

August 18, 2011, 09:37 PM	#14
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	There should be some out there somewhere. No do not try using 327 federal. More ibtelligent folks than me should be able to tell you what is safe. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

August 19, 2011, 07:43 AM	#16
tubbyfirefighter Member Join Date: August 16, 2011 Location: Muhlenberg Kentucky Posts: 42	I missed a tokarev at an expo once, it went for $125. Still kicking myself today. Sportsmans guide even had ammo for it $112 for 1200 rounds, darn!

August 20, 2011, 11:42 AM	#17
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	What will happen if i try and shoot .32 acp in the standard cylinder? Ive heard it will fire but sometimes have light strikes? Is it accurate at all, i just want to shoot the thing on monday when i get it. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

August 20, 2011, 04:35 PM	#18
essohbe Junior member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 817	^ I was going to do that also but ended up putting the $ into a Tok. And yea, the CZ-82's are awesome C&R guns except the slide-stop springs like to break. Had to replace mine 2 times with this one guy's aftermarket ones he sells.

August 20, 2011, 09:37 PM	#19
JiminTexas Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2010 Posts: 149	Try the Sarco ads (Shotgun News) and look for the Spanish Star Modelo Super in 9mmx23. They are roughly thre equivalent of a .38 Super in power and look somewhat like a 1911. For $165 + $20 or so shipping you get a C&R pistol in very good condition.

August 20, 2011, 09:59 PM	#20
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 2,016	Oooops... __________________ What did Mrs. Bullet say to Mr. Bullet? ... "We're having a BeeBee!"... IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it." Last edited by CWKahrFan; August 21, 2011 at 12:09 AM.

August 21, 2011, 02:54 PM	#21
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	CZ-82! Buy one, you won't be disappointed. And yeah, i busted the slide stop spring when I hastily disassembled the pistol for a Duracoat job. Simple enough to make another one from a piece of spring-steel wire...from a fishing bobber

August 21, 2011, 10:33 PM	#23
chack Junior member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Location: dixie Posts: 477	Is a tokerev still a C&R if it has been chromed?

August 22, 2011, 08:51 AM	#24
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	I dont have a c&R licence yet, i just like the class of gun, i love older more historical pieces and i like good values. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.