Am I missing something (SBS)

MagnumWill · April 11, 2012, 07:42 PM

Hi guys. I was driving home yesterday, and started thinking of this. (has nothing to do with driving. Sorry, I digress).

A lot of companies have been developing AR pistols, AK pistols (Dracos), the PLR-16 from Kel-Tec. Seeing how these are pistols that mimic their original rifle configurations- can this rule be applied to, say, a Serbu Shorty? What excludes them from this rule and makes them Class III? Caliber? Action? Please enlighten me.

David Hineline · April 11, 2012, 10:10 PM

All handguns require rifling, so smoothbore hand fired weapon is Any Other Weapon.

If it had a rifled bore it would become a destructive device as it is over .50 caliber.

If you build one up in rifled barrel .410 caliber you would be golden, they call those

Taurus Judge, S&W Governer, and others of the like.

Superhouse 15 · April 11, 2012, 10:16 PM

If I understand it right...

If it's rifled and over .50 it's a destructive device and thus NFA. If it's a smoothbore and has always had only a pistol grip it's an AOW, smoothbore pistol, and NFA. If it has, or has ever had a stock it's an SBS and NFA. The Serbu is only a pistol grip so it's the best you can do at a $5 transfer.

Willie Lowman · April 12, 2012, 04:24 AM

The Serbu Super Shorty is a smooth bore pistol. It also has a vertical fore grip. Those two things put it solidly in AOW status.

...And they are a lot of fun!

MagnumWill · April 21, 2012, 12:20 AM

He heh! Me want.

So that's good, I was worried the Serbu was an additional couple hundred for tax.

April 11, 2012, 07:42 PM	#1
MagnumWill Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Location: Central Colorado Posts: 1,001	Am I missing something (SBS) Hi guys. I was driving home yesterday, and started thinking of this. (has nothing to do with driving. Sorry, I digress). A lot of companies have been developing AR pistols, AK pistols (Dracos), the PLR-16 from Kel-Tec. Seeing how these are pistols that mimic their original rifle configurations- can this rule be applied to, say, a Serbu Shorty? What excludes them from this rule and makes them Class III? Caliber? Action? Please enlighten me. __________________ Those who hammer their swords into plow shares will plow for those who didn't...

April 12, 2012, 04:24 AM	#4
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	The Serbu Super Shorty is a smooth bore pistol. It also has a vertical fore grip. Those two things put it solidly in AOW status. ...And they are a lot of fun! __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

April 21, 2012, 12:20 AM	#5
MagnumWill Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Location: Central Colorado Posts: 1,001	He heh! Me want. So that's good, I was worried the Serbu was an additional couple hundred for tax. __________________ Those who hammer their swords into plow shares will plow for those who didn't...

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April 11, 2012, 10:10 PM	#2
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 704	All handguns require rifling, so smoothbore hand fired weapon is Any Other Weapon. If it had a rifled bore it would become a destructive device as it is over .50 caliber. If you build one up in rifled barrel .410 caliber you would be golden, they call those Taurus Judge, S&W Governer, and others of the like.

April 11, 2012, 10:16 PM	#3
Superhouse 15 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2007 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 844	If I understand it right... If it's rifled and over .50 it's a destructive device and thus NFA. If it's a smoothbore and has always had only a pistol grip it's an AOW, smoothbore pistol, and NFA. If it has, or has ever had a stock it's an SBS and NFA. The Serbu is only a pistol grip so it's the best you can do at a $5 transfer.