Compact 9mm - Page 2

+1k ammo · May 15, 2015, 12:11 PM

thanks wvsig..... thats perfect.

From this chart and Glocks website, looks to me like the cw9 is closer to g43

I wish they could both be in front of me to choose, but that is never going to happen.

JERRYS. · May 15, 2015, 02:54 PM

I've had a few compact 9mms in my time.... Kahr PM9, Ruger LC9 and so on.... pocket carry just isn't something that fits me unless its as small as a Beretta 950BS or LWS.

right now my "compact" 9mm is a Walther PPS. I've toyed with the idea of the G43 but haven't found anything it does that the PPS does do already. the Shield and Nano were on my list a while back but I ended up buying the PPS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvORYVx5Gco

Big4Freedom · May 15, 2015, 02:58 PM

This video might be helpful to you.

http://youtu.be/8pHdg4F15aQ

The only two I'd add to Hickock's list for ya would be the Sig 938 and Sig 290RS that others have mentioned. Both great, imo. For reference, I weighed my lc9s pro and sig 290rs, today, in their similar iwb holsters, w/7rds in each, and 290 was only 3 ounces heavier and a little shorter than lc9s pro in overall size. ~22 vs 25 ounces for the two.

osbornk · May 15, 2015, 04:36 PM

[QUOTE]The size of the Taurus is about the same as the Ruger, but it's a Taurus.[QUOTE]

I thought the same thing until I traded a Hi-Point for an old Taurus. After I had the Taurus for a while, I bought a new one. I have been converted.

druryj · May 15, 2015, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jolly roger

LC9 Pro..kinda like a 9MM Walther PPK. Like mine. Smaller than a Glock 43 btw

The only way the LC9 pro is like a Walther PPK is they are both guns.

Hamsterdam · May 15, 2015, 05:59 PM

i will chime in with Big Mikey. i would not write Taurus off. They have made some dogs in the past, and have always remedied previous issues on next release. My everyday carry is the PT111 Pro Millenium, and at the range, or shooting targets in the pasture, it has not once FFT or FTE. i haven't used any really dirty Ammo, but for target plinking, i go with budget FMJs, such as Georgia Arms Canned Heat, Freedom Munitions 9mm 124 gr. RN Reman, or Military Ballistics Industries124gr. FMJ...which is my last choice of the 3. Still they fire purty clean, unlike some Russian rounds.

i have no hesitation in trusting my Taurus with the most intense Life Defense. That comes from trusting the weapon from experience, and the experience that came with good training with multiple firearms. Never can underestimate the importance of some basic firearms training at the least...makes it safer for the owner, and all others in the area.

hodaka · May 15, 2015, 06:49 PM

I carry the Walther PPS, my wife the Ruger LC9s. Both have been 100% through many rounds. The Ruger is lighter and less expensive. I would recommend either.

Dreaming100Straight · May 15, 2015, 07:46 PM

You are looking at some good guns, but they are not compacts and will not shoot like compacts. If you want a more concealable carry they are good choices. My compact is a Sig P229 with a 3.9" barrel. The barrels of both the LC9 and the Shield are 3.1".

deputy tom · May 15, 2015, 07:53 PM

My current favorite is a S&W Shield NTS 9mm. YMMV. tom.

michael t · May 16, 2015, 03:32 PM

CW9 ,PF-9 kelTec , are the 2 I have If I want a compact 9mm

StrutStopper · May 16, 2015, 04:23 PM

I just bought an LC9s Pro today. Haven't shot it yet. Wanted to sell my original LC9 but the shop only wanted to give me $175 because it's got some holster wear so now I've got 2 LC9s.

jcv · May 16, 2015, 05:48 PM

There are a lot of good suggestions here, but let me add another. If at all possible, find a rental range and try before you buy. I recently traded my LC9 for a Shield NTS. The Ruger is slim and smooth, but for me the recovery time between shots was very slow. The slightly larger grip of the Shield made a big difference in my hands (perhaps because I was already used to the similar grip of my old S&W 3913). YMMV.

rt11002003 · May 17, 2015, 12:14 PM

Look at the SIG p239 and the DW Guardian. The Guardian is pricy, but really designed for carry duty. My SIG p239 is the SAS Gen. 2, which is also designed for carry, all the corners smoothed and rounded; but a little more expensive than the standard model.

BCGlocker · May 19, 2015, 06:07 PM

I went with Springfield XDS 9mm 3.3” because the grip safety. It is what I needed to AIWB carry.

Hank R · May 20, 2015, 11:36 AM

I have the Kahr PM9 and the XDs9. I like and shoot the XDs the best.

bushrat1 · May 20, 2015, 12:56 PM

Not sure if you knew, but Glock has a new single stack Model 43 on the market. Small (3.39" barrel) and in 9mm. It weighs almost 18oz unloaded and only 1.02" wide. Resolves some of the issues many people have with double stack magazines. Might be something to consider.

http://us.glock.com/products/model/g43

LostLensCap · May 20, 2015, 07:50 PM

I have the LC9-S. 125 rounds so far without issues. I love the trigger. Also you might consider the Kel-Tec pf9 and p11.

Prof Young · May 20, 2015, 07:56 PM

My experience with Beretta Nano has been less than good. It is finicky about the ammo it will shoot and has about a 3% FTE rate. Not to mention that the rear sight fell off the first time I used it.

To be fair, others have reported being satisfied with their Nano.

Live well, be safe
Prof Young

Dead · May 21, 2015, 10:37 AM

I would say shield... about as small as my hand can agree with, and is more than accurate enough.

indie_rocker · May 21, 2015, 11:28 AM

Don't write off the Sig 290RS. This little guy has handled every type of ammunition I have thrown at it. From 115 ball to 147 +p and everything in between. When I say it has "handled it," that doesn't mean I was left sore after 50 rounds. This pistol has a little more weight to it than others in its class which makes it pretty comfortable to shoot. It's also incredibly accurate for such a small pistol.

The problems that plagued the early production 290's are in the past. If you have an opportunity to test fire one of these, I recommend you do so.

Disclaimer: I am an average sized adult male with average sized hands. Your experience with this pistol may vary.

j102 · May 21, 2015, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indie_rocker

Don't write off the Sig 290RS. This little guy has handled every type of ammunition I have thrown at it. From 115 ball to 147 +p and everything in between. When I say it has "handled it," that doesn't mean I was left sore after 50 rounds. This pistol has a little more weight to it than others in its class which makes it pretty comfortable to shoot. It's also incredibly accurate for such a small pistol.

The problems that plagued the early production 290's are in the past. If you have an opportunity to test fire one of these, I recommend you do so.

Disclaimer: I am an average sized adult male with average sized hands. Your experience with this pistol may vary.

I have one in my pocket right now. Excellent gun!

G43 · May 21, 2015, 05:01 PM

Hey guys, 21 yrs security police, USAF Retired, E-8 SMSgt

Service weapon 92 Berreta, just got around to going with glock 19 when I retired in 03.

Anyway, could not pass up the Luke AFB BX, price on the Glock 43 single stack 9mm for $447 out the door

I was looking for a conceal carry 9 anyway so ..sweet..

Put 100 124 grain thru it today, date of sale. Man, I really like it, added talon grip cutout rubber grip made for glock 43...world of diff to me and my grouping shows it

ps..bought a glock 19 in 03, 8000+ thru it, no issues

Mystro · May 21, 2015, 07:05 PM

If money isn't a issue then the P938 is light weight, night sights, and very accurate.

G43 · May 21, 2015, 07:43 PM

Rented Shield, XDS and G43
Glock hands down to me imho.....
+ the $447 didnt hurt

mukjp22m · May 22, 2015, 10:54 AM

I own a Kahr CM9 and a Springfield XDS 9. I've had a few jams in the XDS, it is very susceptible to limp wristing. The CM9 has been absolutely perfect for years.

May 15, 2015, 05:59 PM	#31
Hamsterdam Member Join Date: May 10, 2015 Posts: 19	represent... i will chime in with Big Mikey. i would not write Taurus off. They have made some dogs in the past, and have always remedied previous issues on next release. My everyday carry is the PT111 Pro Millenium, and at the range, or shooting targets in the pasture, it has not once FFT or FTE. i haven't used any really dirty Ammo, but for target plinking, i go with budget FMJs, such as Georgia Arms Canned Heat, Freedom Munitions 9mm 124 gr. RN Reman, or Military Ballistics Industries124gr. FMJ...which is my last choice of the 3. Still they fire purty clean, unlike some Russian rounds. i have no hesitation in trusting my Taurus with the most intense Life Defense. That comes from trusting the weapon from experience, and the experience that came with good training with multiple firearms. Never can underestimate the importance of some basic firearms training at the least...makes it safer for the owner, and all others in the area.

May 15, 2015, 07:53 PM	#34
deputy tom Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2002 Location: Pennsyltucky Posts: 753	My current favorite is a S&W Shield NTS 9mm. YMMV. tom. __________________ N.R.A.LIFE MEMBER Thank Goodness we're back on line. An end will come on the world, but love and music will endure. Thig crioch air an t-saoghail, ach mairidh gaol 's ceol. Old Scottish Gaelic proverb

May 16, 2015, 03:32 PM	#35
michael t Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Location: Out back Ky Posts: 4,044	CW9 ,PF-9 kelTec , are the 2 I have If I want a compact 9mm __________________ Certified Armed Infidel Colt Defender ,Colt Mustang ,Dan Wesson CBOB, PPK/S, American Classic 1911,Bersa Thunder 380 http://bersachat.comHome of Bersa http://www.metroarms1911forum.com

May 19, 2015, 06:07 PM	#39
BCGlocker Member Join Date: May 12, 2015 Location: TX Posts: 29	I went with Springfield XDS 9mm 3.3” because the grip safety. It is what I needed to AIWB carry. __________________ NRA Life Member IDPA Life Member USPSA Life Member Texas LTC Instructor

May 20, 2015, 07:56 PM	#43
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,404	Not happy with my Nano My experience with Beretta Nano has been less than good. It is finicky about the ammo it will shoot and has about a 3% FTE rate. Not to mention that the rear sight fell off the first time I used it. To be fair, others have reported being satisfied with their Nano. Live well, be safe Prof Young

May 15, 2015, 12:11 PM	#26
+1k ammo Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2013 Posts: 235	thanks wvsig..... thats perfect. From this chart and Glocks website, looks to me like the cw9 is closer to g43 I wish they could both be in front of me to choose, but that is never going to happen.

May 15, 2015, 02:54 PM	#27
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,969	I've had a few compact 9mms in my time.... Kahr PM9, Ruger LC9 and so on.... pocket carry just isn't something that fits me unless its as small as a Beretta 950BS or LWS. right now my "compact" 9mm is a Walther PPS. I've toyed with the idea of the G43 but haven't found anything it does that the PPS does do already. the Shield and Nano were on my list a while back but I ended up buying the PPS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvORYVx5Gco

May 15, 2015, 02:58 PM	#28
Big4Freedom Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 157	This video might be helpful to you. http://youtu.be/8pHdg4F15aQ The only two I'd add to Hickock's list for ya would be the Sig 938 and Sig 290RS that others have mentioned. Both great, imo. For reference, I weighed my lc9s pro and sig 290rs, today, in their similar iwb holsters, w/7rds in each, and 290 was only 3 ounces heavier and a little shorter than lc9s pro in overall size. ~22 vs 25 ounces for the two.

May 15, 2015, 04:36 PM	#29
osbornk Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2012 Location: Mountains of Appalachia Posts: 1,598	[QUOTE]The size of the Taurus is about the same as the Ruger, but it's a Taurus.[QUOTE] I thought the same thing until I traded a Hi-Point for an old Taurus. After I had the Taurus for a while, I bought a new one. I have been converted.

May 15, 2015, 06:49 PM	#32
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	I carry the Walther PPS, my wife the Ruger LC9s. Both have been 100% through many rounds. The Ruger is lighter and less expensive. I would recommend either.

May 15, 2015, 07:46 PM	#33
Dreaming100Straight Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2013 Posts: 1,235	You are looking at some good guns, but they are not compacts and will not shoot like compacts. If you want a more concealable carry they are good choices. My compact is a Sig P229 with a 3.9" barrel. The barrels of both the LC9 and the Shield are 3.1".

May 16, 2015, 04:23 PM	#36
StrutStopper Member Join Date: January 21, 2015 Posts: 51	I just bought an LC9s Pro today. Haven't shot it yet. Wanted to sell my original LC9 but the shop only wanted to give me $175 because it's got some holster wear so now I've got 2 LC9s.

May 16, 2015, 05:48 PM	#37
jcv Member Join Date: October 19, 2014 Posts: 35	There are a lot of good suggestions here, but let me add another. If at all possible, find a rental range and try before you buy. I recently traded my LC9 for a Shield NTS. The Ruger is slim and smooth, but for me the recovery time between shots was very slow. The slightly larger grip of the Shield made a big difference in my hands (perhaps because I was already used to the similar grip of my old S&W 3913). YMMV.

May 17, 2015, 12:14 PM	#38
rt11002003 Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2014 Posts: 524	Look at the SIG p239 and the DW Guardian. The Guardian is pricy, but really designed for carry duty. My SIG p239 is the SAS Gen. 2, which is also designed for carry, all the corners smoothed and rounded; but a little more expensive than the standard model.

May 20, 2015, 11:36 AM	#40
Hank R Member Join Date: May 11, 2015 Posts: 51	I have the Kahr PM9 and the XDs9. I like and shoot the XDs the best.

May 20, 2015, 12:56 PM	#41
bushrat1 Member Join Date: June 16, 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 46	Not sure if you knew, but Glock has a new single stack Model 43 on the market. Small (3.39" barrel) and in 9mm. It weighs almost 18oz unloaded and only 1.02" wide. Resolves some of the issues many people have with double stack magazines. Might be something to consider. http://us.glock.com/products/model/g43

May 20, 2015, 07:50 PM	#42
LostLensCap Junior Member Join Date: May 16, 2015 Posts: 14	I have the LC9-S. 125 rounds so far without issues. I love the trigger. Also you might consider the Kel-Tec pf9 and p11.

May 21, 2015, 10:37 AM	#44
Dead Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: AoW Land, USA Posts: 1,968	I would say shield... about as small as my hand can agree with, and is more than accurate enough. __________________ Dead [Black Ops] www.therallypoint.org

May 21, 2015, 11:28 AM	#45
indie_rocker Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 189	Don't write off the Sig 290RS. This little guy has handled every type of ammunition I have thrown at it. From 115 ball to 147 +p and everything in between. When I say it has "handled it," that doesn't mean I was left sore after 50 rounds. This pistol has a little more weight to it than others in its class which makes it pretty comfortable to shoot. It's also incredibly accurate for such a small pistol. The problems that plagued the early production 290's are in the past. If you have an opportunity to test fire one of these, I recommend you do so. Disclaimer: I am an average sized adult male with average sized hands. Your experience with this pistol may vary.

May 21, 2015, 05:01 PM	#47
G43 Junior Member Join Date: May 15, 2015 Posts: 7	Hey guys, 21 yrs security police, USAF Retired, E-8 SMSgt Service weapon 92 Berreta, just got around to going with glock 19 when I retired in 03. Anyway, could not pass up the Luke AFB BX, price on the Glock 43 single stack 9mm for $447 out the door I was looking for a conceal carry 9 anyway so ..sweet.. Put 100 124 grain thru it today, date of sale. Man, I really like it, added talon grip cutout rubber grip made for glock 43...world of diff to me and my grouping shows it ps..bought a glock 19 in 03, 8000+ thru it, no issues Last edited by G43; May 22, 2015 at 05:33 PM.

May 21, 2015, 07:05 PM	#48
Mystro Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 1,528	If money isn't a issue then the P938 is light weight, night sights, and very accurate. __________________ "I'm a good guy with a gun" What do I care if I give up some freedom or rights?....The Goverment will take care of me. This kind of thinking is now in the majority and it should concern you. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what free entitlements you can bleed from your country"

May 21, 2015, 07:43 PM	#49
G43 Junior Member Join Date: May 15, 2015 Posts: 7	Rented Shield, XDS and G43 Glock hands down to me imho..... + the $447 didnt hurt __________________ G43 and sweet Steyr C9-A1 Retired USAF E-8

May 22, 2015, 10:54 AM	#50
mukjp22m Member Join Date: October 3, 2013 Posts: 44	I own a Kahr CM9 and a Springfield XDS 9. I've had a few jams in the XDS, it is very susceptible to limp wristing. The CM9 has been absolutely perfect for years.