Glock G36 .45ACP Sub Or Not?

madmag · February 9, 2011, 02:59 PM

Ok, this is not earth shattering, but on many threads when a G36 is mentioned someone will chime in and say it's not really sub compact, then they will use a G26 or G27 as comparison. But considering the G36 is .45ACP, then I think it does fit the sub category. Anyway, I can carry my G36 CCW as easily as my Smith 36, so I don't care it it's sub or not.

So, what are the real (not 9mm/.40 S&W) apples to apples any brand comparisons for a .45ACP that holds 6+1 and is easy to conceal?

chris in va · February 9, 2011, 03:03 PM

Couple come to mind...subcompact 1911's, Kahr 45's...

madmag · February 9, 2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chris in va

Couple come to mind...subcompact 1911's, Kahr 45's...

I am familiar with 1911 compacts, not too much with Kahr. But I don't see the 1911's as being any more compact than a G36.....just my take.

Burger · February 9, 2011, 03:11 PM

Glock 45 caliber, as you may know, come is the
G21 a full size
G30 labelled subcompact but is almost the same size as other Glock compacts
G36 same as the G30 only slimmer (single stack)

Glock calls it a subcompact, but to many Glock owners it is not. The G39 is the only Glock subcompact in a 45 caliber. Too bad it's a GAP

LockedBreech · February 9, 2011, 03:25 PM

It's sad that the .45 GAP is not catching on as well as it could have. It seems like a fantastic round design, but I won't buy one out of fear that it'll be discontinued in a few years.

DonutGuy · February 9, 2011, 03:40 PM

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Glock calls it a subcompact, but to many Glock owners it is not. The G39 is the only Glock subcompact in a 45 caliber.

Tis true, the 36 is not a subcompact, just compare it to the 26/27/33/39.

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Too bad it's a GAP

I exclusively shoot the GAP and found the one caliber that suits all my needs. I have shot all other handgun calibers, especially the Glocks, and owned 9mm's and .40s and the GAP is the most accurate round for me. Online ammo is abundant and I already have more than I need. I'll never own another handgun caliber, there's no need for me. The GAP is my only friend.

madmag · February 9, 2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DonutGuy

just compare it to the 26/27/33/39.

The main point of my thread was to compare the G36 to other .45ACP's, not other calibers.

Fiv3 · February 9, 2011, 05:28 PM

I dunno, it sure seems pretty subcompact to me. It was the first handgun I ever owned that I could have on me and nearly forget that it was there.

I don't carry it as much these days as I prefer a revolver, but it's a joy to pack and shoot. I too wish GAP would have caught on a bit more. Seems like a neat way to cram more .45 into a design. However, in a pinch, ammo is just too tough to come by....locally i mean.

DonutGuy · February 9, 2011, 06:00 PM

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The main point of my thread was to compare the G36 to other .45ACP's, not other calibers.

then that makes it easy, Glock doesn't make a subcompact .45acp. I was merely pointing out that the "other" calibers were made in subcompact frames. I'm not sure about other brands but when it comes to a Glock the 30 or 36 is NOT a sub, they both fit in the compact category. (19,23,38 etc)

Burger · February 9, 2011, 06:20 PM

DoughMan is a hard core Glock/GAP shooter

The G36/G30 is much closer to the dimensions of the "compact" Glock rather than a "subcompact" that Glock labels it.

Great guns. Dumb ass company.

madmag · February 9, 2011, 06:20 PM

I can agree the 36 may not be a sub, but it appears to be one of the most compact of the .45's out there. But sub is still relative. Maybe for a .45ACP the Glock is sub? But then that's were I started.

madmag · February 9, 2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Burger

Great guns. Dumb ass company.

Yeah, but they are a rich Dumb ass company.....can we say that?

los · February 9, 2011, 06:43 PM

bossman · February 9, 2011, 06:55 PM

I don't worry if it's called a compact or subcompact. It's about the same size of an officers size colt. It's a subcompact for a 45acp as far as I'm concerned. It fits the holsters of a G-19 and that's listed as a compact.

So G-19 compact but as the 45acp is a larger round G-36 subcompact.

madmag · February 9, 2011, 07:10 PM

Los, good post. Numbers don't lie, I agree the Kahr is more compact than the G36.

DonutGuy · February 9, 2011, 08:11 PM

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So G-19 compact but as the 45acp is a larger round G-36 subcompact.

yeah but the caliber size doesn't make it a sub, only the frame or the actual size of the gun makes it a sub/compact or full size. Subcompact,compact, and full size is the size of the gun, not the round.

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Great guns. Dumb ass company.

really?

I don't even need to show that Glock is a proven name, besides the massive following, it only holds the contract for (most)U.S. Police issue carry weapons. So lets keep the utterly ignorant comments alone, or show your "proof".

Lastly, Los for giggles do one of your charts comparing a Glock 36 and 26/27/33/39...even though the 39 will have a slightly wider slide.

Formula500racer · February 9, 2011, 09:57 PM

The 30 and 36 are marginally bigger than the 26.

The 30 and 36 are ever so slightly longer.

los · February 9, 2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DonutGuy

... Lastly, Los for giggles do one of your charts comparing a Glock 36 and 26/27/33/39...even though the 39 will have a slightly wider slide.

I'll upload a chart comparing a G36 to a G26 a little later. Not at home or on my personal laptop at this moment.

DonutGuy · February 9, 2011, 11:24 PM

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The 30 and 36 are marginally bigger than the 26.

The 30 and 36 are ever so slightly longer.

whats your definition of marginal? To me they're significantly bigger. Show the stock mag of the 36 and 26, just don't show the frame's of the two. Also the width of the 2 are way different.

los · February 10, 2011, 02:03 AM

I got home a little late ,..and tired, so I quickly whipped up a chart in draft form just to illustrate the size comparison between a G36 and a G26. Not fancy, but you get the picture.

One thing I noticed after scaling the images was that the G36 and G26 frames are virtually identical, except that the G36 frame is longer.

Formula500racer · February 10, 2011, 07:18 AM

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whats your definition of marginal? To me they're significantly bigger. Show the stock mag of the 36 and 26, just don't show the frame's of the two. Also the width of the 2 are way different.

The 30 is less than .5 inches longer and about .5 inches taller than the 26. The 30 is also .09 inches wider.

Having carried both, I feel that the difference is marginal.

The 36 is also .05" slimmer than the 26.

madmag · February 10, 2011, 09:51 AM

Los,

again that's good info, but I still keep in mind that the 26 is 9mm, so the 36 being .45ACP is not that much bigger.

Having said that, a 26 is on my to get list.

los · February 10, 2011, 10:02 AM

Yup. Plus you get standard capacity of [10+1 with the G26], as opposed to [6+1 with the G36].

FYI, a G30 with a 9-round (flat base) compact magazine will be just a tad taller [0.28"] than a G26 with a standard (flat base)10 round magazine.

Additionally, the G30 is only 0.09" thicker than a G26.

madmag · February 10, 2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Los

Plus you get standard capacity of [10+1 with the G26], as opposed to [6+1 with the G36].

Yes, I do do have 9mm (XD9), and I want a G26, but I am a .45ACP person at heart. But you know 7 rounds of .45ACP will take out two bad guys per round, so that equals 14 9mm rounds

los · February 10, 2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by madmag

... But you know 7 rounds of .45ACP will take out two bad guys per round, so that equals 14 9mm rounds ..

LMAO..

My parole officer and psychologist always laughs at me when I tell them the same thing..!!

February 9, 2011, 02:59 PM	#1
madmag Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2007 Location: The South Posts: 4,239	Glock G36 .45ACP Sub Or Not? Ok, this is not earth shattering, but on many threads when a G36 is mentioned someone will chime in and say it's not really sub compact, then they will use a G26 or G27 as comparison. But considering the G36 is .45ACP, then I think it does fit the sub category. Anyway, I can carry my G36 CCW as easily as my Smith 36, so I don't care it it's sub or not. So, what are the real (not 9mm/.40 S&W) apples to apples any brand comparisons for a .45ACP that holds 6+1 and is easy to conceal?

February 9, 2011, 06:55 PM	#14
bossman Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 996	I don't worry if it's called a compact or subcompact. It's about the same size of an officers size colt. It's a subcompact for a 45acp as far as I'm concerned. It fits the holsters of a G-19 and that's listed as a compact. So G-19 compact but as the 45acp is a larger round G-36 subcompact. __________________ NRA life member When the going gets tough, I just open another beer.

February 10, 2011, 10:02 AM	#23
los Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Posts: 502	Yup. Plus you get standard capacity of [10+1 with the G26], as opposed to [6+1 with the G36]. FYI, a G30 with a 9-round (flat base) compact magazine will be just a tad taller [0.28"] than a G26 with a standard (flat base)10 round magazine. Additionally, the G30 is only 0.09" thicker than a G26. Last edited by los; February 10, 2011 at 10:20 AM.

February 9, 2011, 03:03 PM	#2
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Couple come to mind...subcompact 1911's, Kahr 45's...

February 9, 2011, 03:11 PM	#4
Burger Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2010 Posts: 152	Glock 45 caliber, as you may know, come is the G21 a full size G30 labelled subcompact but is almost the same size as other Glock compacts G36 same as the G30 only slimmer (single stack) Glock calls it a subcompact, but to many Glock owners it is not. The G39 is the only Glock subcompact in a 45 caliber. Too bad it's a GAP

February 9, 2011, 03:25 PM	#5
LockedBreech Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2009 Location: Rocky Mountain West Posts: 3,395	It's sad that the .45 GAP is not catching on as well as it could have. It seems like a fantastic round design, but I won't buy one out of fear that it'll be discontinued in a few years.

February 9, 2011, 05:28 PM	#8
Fiv3 Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2010 Posts: 273	I dunno, it sure seems pretty subcompact to me. It was the first handgun I ever owned that I could have on me and nearly forget that it was there. I don't carry it as much these days as I prefer a revolver, but it's a joy to pack and shoot. I too wish GAP would have caught on a bit more. Seems like a neat way to cram more .45 into a design. However, in a pinch, ammo is just too tough to come by....locally i mean.

February 9, 2011, 06:20 PM	#10
Burger Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2010 Posts: 152	DoughMan is a hard core Glock/GAP shooter The G36/G30 is much closer to the dimensions of the "compact" Glock rather than a "subcompact" that Glock labels it. Great guns. Dumb ass company.

February 9, 2011, 06:43 PM	#13
los Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Posts: 502

February 9, 2011, 07:10 PM	#15
madmag Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2007 Location: The South Posts: 4,239	Los, good post. Numbers don't lie, I agree the Kahr is more compact than the G36.

February 9, 2011, 09:57 PM	#17
Formula500racer Member Join Date: January 31, 2011 Posts: 28	The 30 and 36 are marginally bigger than the 26. The 30 and 36 are ever so slightly longer.

February 10, 2011, 02:03 AM	#20
los Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Posts: 502	I got home a little late ,..and tired, so I quickly whipped up a chart in draft form just to illustrate the size comparison between a G36 and a G26. Not fancy, but you get the picture. One thing I noticed after scaling the images was that the G36 and G26 frames are virtually identical, except that the G36 frame is longer.

February 10, 2011, 09:51 AM	#22
madmag Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2007 Location: The South Posts: 4,239	Los, again that's good info, but I still keep in mind that the 26 is 9mm, so the 36 being .45ACP is not that much bigger. Having said that, a 26 is on my to get list.