Very interested in BP cap&ball revolvers - Page 3

Smokin_Gun · April 5, 2009, 10:53 PM

They have done that USDF still does if you wanna pay $1500 for a Rev. while on list waiting.
Besides if we used American steel for Replicas they'd undoutedly be made in Japan.

gmatov · April 5, 2009, 11:59 PM

Pohill,

Been a while since I spoke with you. Back in those days, I think you complained that you could NOT get the wedge out. People were telling you things like "take a brass drift and a middle sized hammer and bang on it. It'll come out".That is surely an example of HAMMERING the wedge in, and you should NOT do that.

You WILL peen metal when you do that.

When arguments arise about just how powerful pistols are or were with central arbor or top strap, you gotta remember that the Walker was considered by today's experts to be about equivalent to a .357, or even more potent than such.

I don't think that any of the original Walkers, with poor iron cylinders, broke the gun other than the cylinders bursting.. Even with chainfires, probably common when loading in the heat of battle, wouldn't destroy the gun. Those balls go outside the barrel's constriction. Flash and balls pop out where they shouldn't. Make you **** your pants, maybe.

With the steels available 160 years ago, it's a wonder that we "Won the West".

Made with today's "maraging" steels, arbors, frames and all. I would bet they could handle any round you could design them for. Design is the magic word. Cost of the steel alloys is another.

Hell, why should it matter? A Sig Sauer .380 is about 775 bucks. Glocks are 600 neighborhood. More injection molded plastic than machined metal.

I plan to take a rimfire to the range with me in the AM. Most will be BP, including the Walker I just bought. Have a 44 S&W Mag. in the case, too, for the hell of it.

Cheers,

George

pohill · April 6, 2009, 05:25 AM

Wrong. I never had a problem getting the wedge out of any gun. Only one gun that I own (or ever owned) had a wedge problem, and that was my first - I pushed it in too far (or something) and the exit slot stretched out. My fault, but I learned from it.

gmatov · April 7, 2009, 01:51 AM

Mr,

Go buy something. It doesn't mean anything till you get one and THEN you have to listen to the other side. You buy a Rem, you will be told you SHOULD have gone with Colt.

You buy a Colt, you SHOULD have bought a Rem. I have both. Most others have both. Part of the enjoyment of them. There ain't enough of either to satisfy our lust.

There ain't a dime's worth of difference in how they will shoot. IF YOU can hold a sight picture, you will shoot as small a group with a Colt as a Rem, or a Rem against a Colt.

Brand, you will pay more for a Uberti than a Pietta.

Went to the gun store the other day to buy mags for a .22 semi pistol I have. Looked at Sig, Glock, Smith, whatever. Sig .380 goes for 775 bucks. That is ridiculous. Glocks go for near 600. That is ridiculous. Smith, I could not find that matched my 29-3, but have seen them on GB for 700 or so.
Somebody is going loco.

Go TO the auction sites. Everything is out of sight.

Some of you are to blame. You will buy because you want one, RIGHT NOW, so you bid them up.

I got about all I need, now.

Cheers,

George

gmatov · April 7, 2009, 01:59 AM

Pohill,

So you ain't the guy that bitched about the locked up wedge. I do remember you from that forum. Do you recall who hammered the wedge in and cried that it was all locked up?

Are you not the NH cop? I think the guy who did have the problem WAS a cop. Cops are not necessarily very mechanically inclined.

Cheers,

George

Hawg · April 7, 2009, 04:47 AM

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Why the do the Italian's make copies of American BP Revolvers Why the hell doesn't somebody start a company in America and start making them out of American steel

Look at USFA's prices and you'll see why. If they were made here you'd have to pay for American wages and union labor. The prices would be like USFA's and other American gun makers, thru the freakin roof.

pohill · April 7, 2009, 05:19 AM

Wow, George, time hasn't tempered your attitude. No, I was not a NH cop. No, I did not cry about a wedge. I discussed the wedge like I discussed alot of things. And you still don't have much positive to say.
But I'm not doing this all over again.
Cheers, my arse.

Indian Outlaw · April 7, 2009, 07:09 AM

Don't be too harsh. George is our resident Mr. Sunshine.

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April 5, 2009, 11:59 PM	#52
gmatov Junior member Join Date: September 20, 2005 Posts: 346	Pohill, Been a while since I spoke with you. Back in those days, I think you complained that you could NOT get the wedge out. People were telling you things like "take a brass drift and a middle sized hammer and bang on it. It'll come out".That is surely an example of HAMMERING the wedge in, and you should NOT do that. You WILL peen metal when you do that. When arguments arise about just how powerful pistols are or were with central arbor or top strap, you gotta remember that the Walker was considered by today's experts to be about equivalent to a .357, or even more potent than such. I don't think that any of the original Walkers, with poor iron cylinders, broke the gun other than the cylinders bursting.. Even with chainfires, probably common when loading in the heat of battle, wouldn't destroy the gun. Those balls go outside the barrel's constriction. Flash and balls pop out where they shouldn't. Make you **** your pants, maybe. With the steels available 160 years ago, it's a wonder that we "Won the West". Made with today's "maraging" steels, arbors, frames and all. I would bet they could handle any round you could design them for. Design is the magic word. Cost of the steel alloys is another. Hell, why should it matter? A Sig Sauer .380 is about 775 bucks. Glocks are 600 neighborhood. More injection molded plastic than machined metal. I plan to take a rimfire to the range with me in the AM. Most will be BP, including the Walker I just bought. Have a 44 S&W Mag. in the case, too, for the hell of it. Cheers, George

April 6, 2009, 05:25 AM	#53
pohill Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: northeast Posts: 521	Wrong. I never had a problem getting the wedge out of any gun. Only one gun that I own (or ever owned) had a wedge problem, and that was my first - I pushed it in too far (or something) and the exit slot stretched out. My fault, but I learned from it.

April 7, 2009, 01:51 AM	#54
gmatov Junior member Join Date: September 20, 2005 Posts: 346	Mr, Go buy something. It doesn't mean anything till you get one and THEN you have to listen to the other side. You buy a Rem, you will be told you SHOULD have gone with Colt. You buy a Colt, you SHOULD have bought a Rem. I have both. Most others have both. Part of the enjoyment of them. There ain't enough of either to satisfy our lust. There ain't a dime's worth of difference in how they will shoot. IF YOU can hold a sight picture, you will shoot as small a group with a Colt as a Rem, or a Rem against a Colt. Brand, you will pay more for a Uberti than a Pietta. Went to the gun store the other day to buy mags for a .22 semi pistol I have. Looked at Sig, Glock, Smith, whatever. Sig .380 goes for 775 bucks. That is ridiculous. Glocks go for near 600. That is ridiculous. Smith, I could not find that matched my 29-3, but have seen them on GB for 700 or so. Somebody is going loco. Go TO the auction sites. Everything is out of sight. Some of you are to blame. You will buy because you want one, RIGHT NOW, so you bid them up. I got about all I need, now. Cheers, George

April 7, 2009, 01:59 AM	#55
gmatov Junior member Join Date: September 20, 2005 Posts: 346	Pohill, So you ain't the guy that bitched about the locked up wedge. I do remember you from that forum. Do you recall who hammered the wedge in and cried that it was all locked up? Are you not the NH cop? I think the guy who did have the problem WAS a cop. Cops are not necessarily very mechanically inclined. Cheers, George

April 7, 2009, 05:19 AM	#57
pohill Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: northeast Posts: 521	Wow, George, time hasn't tempered your attitude. No, I was not a NH cop. No, I did not cry about a wedge. I discussed the wedge like I discussed alot of things. And you still don't have much positive to say. But I'm not doing this all over again. Cheers, my arse.

April 7, 2009, 07:09 AM	#58
Indian Outlaw Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2008 Location: Behind a computer Posts: 100	Don't be too harsh. George is our resident Mr. Sunshine.