1864 springfield

E.J.White · March 10, 2010, 11:12 AM

Looking for a value for a Springfield This rifle has an allen conversion and looks about 90% 1864 is stamped on right side

James K · March 10, 2010, 03:01 PM

We need more than that to identify it, including the caliber. The lockplate was made in 1864 and obviously is Civil War period. Several Allin conversions of that period used wartime parts or were conversions of .58 rifle muskets.

Jim

E.J.White · March 10, 2010, 03:24 PM

I will get back to you with more information and pics.

Chris_B · March 10, 2010, 10:53 PM

There are actually multiple types of Allin conversion and I'm not quite clear on the differences

I am looking forward to the photos

James K · March 11, 2010, 09:00 PM

Part of the key is the calliber; the first Allin conversion was the Model 1865. It was almost all rifle musket except for the trapdoor. It fired a .58 rimfire round that did not require any barrel sleeve.

The next was the Model 1866, in .50 centerfire; it also was a conversion, with a sleeved barrel. Ignoring a couple of cadet rifles, the next was the Model 1868, also .50 CF, which had a newly made true receiver instead of the cut barrel of the previous models, and a newly made unlined barrel, but still used Civil War lockplates and other parts.

Next up was the Model 1870, which had a different and improved receiver, but was otherwise very similar to the Model 1868.

Then came the Model 1873, in .45-70, almost totally new, though the earlier ones had Civil War era trigger guards.

So there was quite a story to the development of the Allin action.
Jim

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E.J.White Member Join Date: December 3, 2009 Posts: 33	1864 springfield Looking for a value for a Springfield This rifle has an allen conversion and looks about 90% 1864 is stamped on right side

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March 10, 2010, 03:01 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	We need more than that to identify it, including the caliber. The lockplate was made in 1864 and obviously is Civil War period. Several Allin conversions of that period used wartime parts or were conversions of .58 rifle muskets. Jim

March 10, 2010, 03:24 PM	#3
E.J.White Member Join Date: December 3, 2009 Posts: 33	I will get back to you with more information and pics.

March 10, 2010, 10:53 PM	#4
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	There are actually multiple types of Allin conversion and I'm not quite clear on the differences I am looking forward to the photos

March 11, 2010, 09:00 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Part of the key is the calliber; the first Allin conversion was the Model 1865. It was almost all rifle musket except for the trapdoor. It fired a .58 rimfire round that did not require any barrel sleeve. The next was the Model 1866, in .50 centerfire; it also was a conversion, with a sleeved barrel. Ignoring a couple of cadet rifles, the next was the Model 1868, also .50 CF, which had a newly made true receiver instead of the cut barrel of the previous models, and a newly made unlined barrel, but still used Civil War lockplates and other parts. Next up was the Model 1870, which had a different and improved receiver, but was otherwise very similar to the Model 1868. Then came the Model 1873, in .45-70, almost totally new, though the earlier ones had Civil War era trigger guards. So there was quite a story to the development of the Allin action. Jim