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February 9, 2009, 04:24 PM | #26 | |
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February 9, 2009, 08:13 PM | #28 |
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Here's the official web site: http://secondamendmentmarch.com/
Thank Skip Coryell of MCRGO for organizing this. |
February 9, 2009, 09:52 PM | #29 |
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This will not go as planned
I'm a gun loving American Patriot. But this will not go as planned. Advise people to dress in their work clothes, great, but you will still get people dressed in gear that will do our movement a disservice. This is not to be defeatist. The Main Stream Media IS NOT our friend. They will zero in on the literal handful of people that do this movement a disservice and THAT is what will be emblazened across every TV set in America to further their point that its crazies that want gun rights. To go a step farther, think of this...at this year's DNC and RNC their were people that went to protest how, regardless of party, the people aren't being represented. And, next thing you know, some crazy provacateurs, THAT DID NOT COME WITH THE GROUP(very likely plants) were put on TV and shown to be starting trouble. They(MSMedia and gov't agents) will find a way to discredit this great attempt to voice our displeasure with the current state of gun rights.
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February 10, 2009, 04:43 AM | #30 |
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Why use a number in the name? By implication, if the number is not met then the event will have fallen short in the eyes of some. I like "Second Amendment March"
I'm in. I move that there is a suggested dress code, at least for men. Something simple like, wear either a tie or a sport jacket; or even jeans with a suit jacket. Regular suit and tie, fine, if you want. Having every bubba show up in their cammys does not serve the cause. Dress in a way that communicates respect for why you're there. |
February 10, 2009, 07:41 AM | #31 |
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Let's quit saying, "I'll try to see if....". LET'S DO IT!
I'll begin organizing in my state tomorrow if I get TWELVE others to join me, to start ORGANIZING in their state: The bus-caravan to D.C. No need to wait for anything else. It's not until (¿ summer ?) 2010. Together we should have a good idea of whether we get "the 1,000,000" by then. But would we settle for less than 1,000,000? (the Media will give us that name immediately.) Al Sharpton got 5-network coverage of TEN PROTESTORS outside Bernie Madoff's office building! Sure - the "drive-by media" won't cover us like that unless there is a massive no-show or other "incident", but you know Rush, Glenn, Sean and others will cover us, and just THOSE THREE have more listener-ship that the whole drive-by media of ABC, NBC, CBS, PMSNBC, & PBS combined! For my part, I only have a few restrictions on the attendees: 1. NO ammo or guns, not even DEEP-CCW. Maybe a simple empty shell-casing would be a good testimony of the seriousness of this matter. 2. NO booze, ANYWHERE while we're there. 3. NO Camo, except caps, because Obama's "camo-wearing, gun-waving, bible-clutching" marchers will get all the camera-coverage, plus all the hostility from the "I just happened to be passing by with my anti-gun poster" types that surely will show up. Yes, I have LOTS of camo, but "this ain't about Bambi!" 4. Carry your vest-pocket copy of The Constitution, and wave it. What!? You don't HAVE one? Go buy one, or a few, or a dozen. 1,000,000 gun-owners suddenly ordering copies of The Constitution would raise eye-brows at the publishers' offices! How's about it, you dozen more organizers? Is it a workable plan?? "We'll have them surrounded."
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February 10, 2009, 09:14 AM | #32 |
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That's the problem with my new duty position; it's not very flexible on when I can take leave. Hopefully this coincides with a break between classes or a double-start class vs. a triple-start. I have a friend out at Arlington National Cemetary that I need to pay my respects to in addition to the march.
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February 10, 2009, 11:56 AM | #34 |
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It sounds like a great idea, but wouldn't it be better to have the march someplace where people can legally carry? Perhaps a capital in a gun friendly state where peoples licenses are likely to have reciprocity?
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February 10, 2009, 08:01 PM | #36 |
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1. Who would promote such a thing? What's in it for them? You know the anti-gun crowd can hardly wait for this show to hit town.
2. Of course the crowd will be nowhere NEAR 1,000,000 people which will be seized upon immediately by the anti-gun crowd to show the weakness of the gun community, not it's strength. And of course there will be plants among the people who do attend, intending to tarnish the reputation of gun owners, not help them. (I always assume that any guy who shows up in cammies at an event like this, is a plant for the other side.) 3. Why spend your money in Washington DC? |
February 11, 2009, 03:53 AM | #37 |
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Once again, can we let go of the arbitrary number of one million? We may indeed reach that number depending upon the shenanigans that occur in both houses between now and then. But why set ourselves up for ridicule, by picking a number out of the air?
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Ted Nugent Desires to Speak and Play at the Second Amendment March in Spring 2010!
The Second Amendment March is proud to announce that rock-n-roll legend and Second Amendment Activist Ted Nugent has enthusiastically agreed to perform and speak at the Second Amendment March in Spring 2010, provided the logistics can be worked out! In a conversation just this morning to event founder and promoter, Skip Coryell, Ted Nugent said: "Goodstuff Skip. If you are so inclined, you may throw the Nuge rocketfuel on the fire by emphasizing my personal total support as an individual and as a BOD of NRA & GOA! ONWARD!" Well, Ted, let me think about it. Okay! Done thinking! You're in and we'll do our best to make it happen! When I pressed him to bring his guitar, Ted replied: "It would not be a complete freedom rally without my firebreathing Star Spangled Banner eruption!" We look forward to Ted's performance and thank him for his support in lending us his voice, his guitar and his tremendous starpower! God bless the Nuge! |
February 11, 2009, 11:57 AM | #39 |
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I'm game and i'll make sure to be there,i don't care if i'm the only one there.I'm going to start by making sure my gps is up and ready and i'm going to start saving my money too.I think it will also be a great vacation for my family,and a great history lesson to learn.
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2) This is a civil rights issue. 3) Optimism must be a precondition for success, not a result of it. If we all wait to see if it is gaining momentum before we jump on, it cannot build momentum. There is no opportunity to "wait and see" here. This thing does not require hope or faith. It requires a plan, and the fortitude to see it through. The former seems to be coalescing apace. The latter must show itself within all who value this right now-at the onset.
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I'm sure many of this forum have seen the video on YouTube with the British Citizens doing a peaceful march with their slogan, "We want our guns back", AFTER they had there rights stripped away. One of the British demonstrators believed their loss of freedom coincided with an apathy of the public towards their right to bear arms. They didn't really feel it was that important. Now when you defend your home in the UK, you are charged with criminal assalt or murder, sent to prison for 10-20 years and the criminal who violated you gets 6-18 months. Once it's gone folks, it's gone and you will never get that right back.
Apathy towards this event will be the downfall. I believe it is now properly titled as the 2nd Amendment March, and we should encourage others to drop the "Million Gun Owner" reference. We are, in fact, wishing to demonstrate in order to support and protect the 2nd Amendment. It really has nothing to do with a majic number of attendees. Several thousand law abiding citizens supporting our constitution can be a very positive display of unity. This has the potential to be a great event. The gathering of friends, family and strangers who have a similar interest, demonstrating for a cause they all believe in. Sounds rather familiar to what our forefathers did. |
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Recently Ted Nugent offered his support to the event and desires to Speak and Play at the Second Amendment March in Spring 2010! Wouldn't it be great if we could get support from other celebrities such as Tom Selleck and Kurt Russell to participate as well?. This forum had a thread 10 years ago with a list of the celebrities who either carry, own or participate in shooting events. The most popular being the Irlene Mandrell Celebrity Shoot http://www.irlenemandrellshoot.com/
If any forum members out there have a connection to any of the following celebs, maybe you could let them know about the 2nd Amendment March and see if they would be willing to lend a little bit of their time for a worthy cause. Of course owning/carrying doesn't always translate to being Pro-Gun in Hollywood. Some feel, "It's OK for me to have them, but not the ordinary folks." So not everyone on the list may be supportive but they all have some tie to firearms whether they admit it or not. I'm not saying this is a complete or totally accurate list, just info I have found on the public world wide web! Tim Abell Aerosmith Alabama Jack Allocco John Anderson Frankie Anne Jeff Ballard Razzy Bailey Charles Barkley Priscilla Barnes Tracey Bird Blake & Brian Wade Boggs The Bossman Josh Brolin Jim Ed Brown Kimberlin Brown Jerry Bruckheimer T Bubba George Bush (Sr. & Jr.) Dave Butz James Cameron Drew Carey David Carradine Robert Carridine David Caruso Stoney Case Bruce Channel Gary Chapman Richard Childress Tom Clancy Teri Clark, The Wilkinson's Gary Coleman Michael Collins Harry Connick Jr Patricia Cornwell, Novelist Jamie Lee Curtis Charles Davis Linda Davis Al Del Greco Bo Derek Johnny DiSanti Shannen Doherty The Droz Alan Dysert Dale Earnhardt Jr Leslie Easterbrook Jeffrey L. Engel Sherol L. Engel Eric Estrada Skip Ewing Lou Ferigno Jeff Foxworthy Dennis Franz Brian Gates Crystal Gayle Sarah Michelle Gellar Mel Gibson Jeff Gordon Congressman Sam Graves Erin Gray Michael Gregory Vincent Guastaferro Ken Hanes Dick Hardwich The Hager Twins Stephan Henneberry James Hetfield from Metallica Hulk Hogan Lee Horsley Kareem Abdul Jabbar Jesse James, Monster Garage Thomas Jane James Earl Jones Tommy Lee Jones Steve Kanaly Harvey Keitel Ray Kelly Sammy Kershaw Wade Kimes T.J. Klay Marty Kove Terry Labonte Matt LeBlanc Daryl Lamonica John Landis Larry the Cable Guy John Laughlin Tracy Lawrence Geoffrey Lewis Jerry Lee Lewis Rex Linn Anne Lockhart George Lucas Lorretta Lynn Sahne McAnally Buck McNeely Gerald McRaney Karl Malone Howie Mandel Barbara Mandrell Irlene Mandrell Louise Mandrell Joe Mantegna Dave Marcis Ron Masak Rick Mast John Milius Robert Guy Miranda Shari Moss Ted Musgrave Charles Napier Jimmy C. Newman Jay Novecek Conan O'Brien Lyle Omori Oak Ridge Boys Ozzy Osbourne James E. Partee Jr. Jameson Parker Lu Parker Dolly Parton Sean Penn Penn & Teller Joe Penny Mr. Perfect Ron Perlman Ross Perot Emily Procter Lee Purcell Stacie Randall John Ratzenberger Burt Reynolds Little Richard Branscombe Richmond Geraldo Rivera Joan Rivers Cokie Roberts Julia Roberts Kid Rock Mike Rogers David Lee Roth Dave Rowland Billy Joe Royal Kurt Russell Jeri Ryan Arnold Schwarzeneggar Congressman Bill Shuster Norman Shwarzkopf Steve Scott Jim Scoutten Jeanie Seely Steven Segal Tom Selleck William Shatner Scott Shepherd Pauly Shore Lane Smith Stephen Spielberg Sylvester Stallone Frank Stallone, his brother Chuck Stapel Michael Stern Zane Taylor Lindy Teague Marshall Teague Aaron Tippon Steve Tyler Robert Urich Porter Wagoner Charlie Walker Jess Walton Kevin Blake Weldon Dan Wilcox Bruce Willis Weird Al Yankovic Chuck Yeager |
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I`m in. Don`t want to turn this important thread into political bashing nor one of choosing sides between Dems. and Reps. but we all need to remember the AWB from the Clinton era. With Pres. Obama`s well known stances on gun/ammo control and the fact that Hillary Clinton is in the White House for the 2nd time gun owners will have to fight both their ideas combined. Probably many more ridiculous styles of guns, gun parts and ammo added to the list of banned materials. Obama may at present have bigger fish to fry than gun control but make no mistake, IT`S COMING. We as gun owners have to roll up our sleeves, put our boxing gloves on and be ready for when that time comes. Not wait for that time to get here then start getting ready. A trip to Washington in support of my 2nd Amendment rights is nothing compared to what I`m willing to go through.
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To Redneck Fur: Yiu asked so I'll tell you. The way I see it is that there are about 250 million guns in the country right now with more being sold every day. It seems reasonable to me to assume that they are distributed among at least 100 million different people, (although I own more than my share and you may too). The fact is that there are a lot of people who like guns; and we've already weathered the anti-gun storm and are on a winning streak. Most politicians know that it's political suicide to tangle with us. That's not true in a few places like California, New York, Massachusetts, Illinois, and Washington, DC - but even in Washington DC the Supreme Court recently ruled in favor of people being able to own guns for self defense in their own homes. From what I can read and learn "incorporation" - which I've been told is legally making the 2nd amendment apply to all the states, which it amazed me to learn, it doesn't do now, is the next logical step toward going where you and I want to go with legislation protecting our rights. That seems logical to me. We have to try to intelligently and reasonably convince men of good will who are uncommitted on the issue, or are on the other side of the issue to support us. We're not going to do it by alienating or trying to frighten the people whose help and support we need. Frankly, the words "a gunowners march on Washington" reminds me a lot of a bumper sticker I once said that said "Support mental health or I'll kill you." I'd rather let the real numbers speak for us in quiet meaningful political discussions: 250 million guns; 100 or 150 million gunowners. Lower crime rates because of it. We have to stop preaching loudly to ourselves and start convincing the people who don't agree with us. We aren't going to frighten them.
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DG45, I would suggest that you take a long and hard look at the civil rights movement of the 60's.
The legislation that came out of that movement, did not come about because people sat at home, and had "meaningful political discussions." It came about because activists were inspired to, um, act. To demonstrate. To protest. To hold Marches and rallys. Should we do so at the local (State) level? Yes! We should also do so at the National level. In my opinion, an effort should be made to co-ordinate marches on the State Capitols along with the National effort in D.C. Many who couldn't make the trek to D.C. might well be able to participate at their State Capitols. Such a co-ordinated effort, same day, same time, would be newsworthy. |
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DG45, The statement"we`ve already weathered the anti-gun storm and are on a winning streak" to me, is an extremely scary statement coming from a brother gun owner. There will always be a anti-gun storm going on. Think back to how fast the AWB in the Clinton admin. happened. As far as intelligently and reasonably convincing men of good will to come to the right side of gun issue`s(and may I add,the support of the Constitution and 2nd amendment)that should already be being done daily by every gun owner. I`m proud to say that in the last couple months I`ve helped two co-workers not only get into guns but go as far as getting their CCP`s. Had help with one of them. A year (or so) ago I took him shooting.He thought it was fun but didn`t see the need to CCW until he was robbed at a gas station with his kids in car. He called me late the same night wanting to know about getting permit. As far as this march is concerned,as I understand this is a peaceful march. A show to Washington the unity of people that believe our constitutional / civil rights as gun owners are being attacked. As Antipitas suggested, study the 'civil rights' movement. You may see similarities in some of the Un-constitutional things that were going on then that are now happening to gun owners. Its our Constitutional and civil rights that continue to be challenged. The most important thing we have to do is support one another. You`ve got mine!
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I'm often wrong but never in doubt. So, go on to Washington. Have fun. Enjoy. It's still a free country (most places) and thanks to the Supreme Court decision (Heller was it?) Washington DC seems to be joining the land of the free. (I imagine the shortage of ammo everybody seems to be experiencing is due to residents of the District buying it up and preparing to actually sleep safe and sound in their homes for the first time in many years.) Just don't delude yourselves that the liberal news media is going to give a march on Washington in support of gun rights the favorable positive newspaper, TV and radio coverage that was given to Civil Rights issues in the 1960's. Not in this lifetime they won't. Don't you get it? They don't agree with us. They're against us. They're not going to miss an opportunity like this to twist this story to our detriment even if they have to make it up. I' ve said my piece on this subject. No more on it from me. Go with God my friends. I hope I'm wrong.
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You think blacks and those uppity women-folk who marched because they wanted to vote were popular in their time? I noticed that didn't stop them from peaceful protest.
Right is right, and sometimes the country needs a little something to get their attention. I think the civil rights movement is an excellent comparison. At least our cause is spelled out in the Bill of Rights, they didn't even have that. Last edited by maestro pistolero; February 13, 2009 at 04:23 AM. |
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