.38 Spl 100 gr WC?

gb_in_ga · November 3, 2005, 06:50 PM

I've seen .358 100 gr WC's at a couple of websites, and from one of those sites I've gotten some of them pre-loaded in .38 Spl. They seem just the ticket for the recoil averse like my wife. What I haven't found is any load data for that weight of wadcutter. Does anyone have any load data or hints they'd care to share?

WESHOOT2 · November 4, 2005, 06:30 AM

NEVER try to drive them fast, and use 125g lead-bullet data.

(Most anything will work safely over 4.0g Bullseye...)

Rimrod · November 4, 2005, 07:01 AM

If they are not hollow base wadcutters you can drive them as fast as the pressure limit will allow. When looking at other bullets weight is a factor but so is bearing surface and seating depth. A 125 gr. bullet may work perfect if it is a wadcutter, but if it is a semi-wadcutter with an extra long nose it will change. Start with the 4.0 grs of Bullseye and be carefull when going over. (or under)

gb_in_ga · November 4, 2005, 09:36 AM

"NEVER try to drive them fast,"

Yep. I have no intention of doing that, it would defeat the whole purpose. My intention is to make something that is as mild as possible.

"and use 125g lead-bullet data."

I'll give that a try -- the light end of the 125 gr lead bullet data.

"If they are not hollow base wadcutters you can drive them as fast as the pressure limit will allow."

The ones I was looking at were DEWC's, not hollow base. Actually, I'm not really all that interested in how fast I can load them safely, but how mild I can load them and still have acceptable accuracy. Extra mild range fodder, in other words.

WESHOOT2 · November 5, 2005, 12:30 PM

Bullseye, W231, 700X, AA2

**Unclenick** · November 5, 2005, 03:23 PM

2.7 grains of Bullseye used to be a common light wadcutter load. Try that to start.

Nick

Quantrill · November 6, 2005, 09:32 AM

The 148gr wadcutter is the "Factory standard Target load" to which all other target loads should be compared. The 2.7Gr of Bullseye is/was the optimum load although I have always used 2.5gr of 700X with great results. The lighter bullet weights of 125 and 100 gr (and less) never seemed to measure up to the 148's for accuracy. Quantrill

skeet47 · November 12, 2005, 07:07 PM

For a really nice load for practice I use 2.2 of WST

gb_in_ga · November 12, 2005, 10:51 PM

"The lighter bullet weights of 125 and 100 gr (and less) never seemed to measure up to the 148's for accuracy."

Well, yes, but that's not all that important for the intended purpose. 100's and 125's are not going to be quite as accurate as the 148's, but I've found that they are still good enough for low recoil plinking and marksmanship training. Especially when what I'm trying to do is slowly bring a recoil averse neophyte (my wife) up to more mainstream strength loads without flinching. Baby steps first, in other words. She won't be anywhere near proficient enough to where the lower accuracy potential will make any meaningful difference for quite some time, and by then we will have moved on to more mainstream loadings (like those 148 gr WC's). Essentially, this is to be the next baby step up from shooting a .22.

November 3, 2005, 06:50 PM	#1
gb_in_ga Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2005 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 3,092	.38 Spl 100 gr WC? I've seen .358 100 gr WC's at a couple of websites, and from one of those sites I've gotten some of them pre-loaded in .38 Spl. They seem just the ticket for the recoil averse like my wife. What I haven't found is any load data for that weight of wadcutter. Does anyone have any load data or hints they'd care to share? __________________ COME AND TAKE IT http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/batgon.htm Formerly lived in Ga, but now I'm back in Tx! Aaaand, now I'm off to Fla...

November 4, 2005, 06:30 AM	#2
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	hint NEVER try to drive them fast, and use 125g lead-bullet data. (Most anything will work safely over 4.0g Bullseye...) __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

November 4, 2005, 07:01 AM	#3
Rimrod Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Behind enemy lines Posts: 1,309	Hint no. 2 If they are not hollow base wadcutters you can drive them as fast as the pressure limit will allow. When looking at other bullets weight is a factor but so is bearing surface and seating depth. A 125 gr. bullet may work perfect if it is a wadcutter, but if it is a semi-wadcutter with an extra long nose it will change. Start with the 4.0 grs of Bullseye and be carefull when going over. (or under)

November 4, 2005, 09:36 AM	#4
gb_in_ga Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2005 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 3,092	"NEVER try to drive them fast," Yep. I have no intention of doing that, it would defeat the whole purpose. My intention is to make something that is as mild as possible. "and use 125g lead-bullet data." I'll give that a try -- the light end of the 125 gr lead bullet data. "If they are not hollow base wadcutters you can drive them as fast as the pressure limit will allow." The ones I was looking at were DEWC's, not hollow base. Actually, I'm not really all that interested in how fast I can load them safely, but how mild I can load them and still have acceptable accuracy. Extra mild range fodder, in other words. __________________ COME AND TAKE IT http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/batgon.htm Formerly lived in Ga, but now I'm back in Tx! Aaaand, now I'm off to Fla...

November 5, 2005, 12:30 PM	#5
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	38 accuracy Bullseye, W231, 700X, AA2 __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

November 5, 2005, 03:23 PM	#6
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	2.7 grains of Bullseye used to be a common light wadcutter load. Try that to start. Nick

November 6, 2005, 09:32 AM	#7
Quantrill Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 1999 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 725	The 148gr wadcutter is the "Factory standard Target load" to which all other target loads should be compared. The 2.7Gr of Bullseye is/was the optimum load although I have always used 2.5gr of 700X with great results. The lighter bullet weights of 125 and 100 gr (and less) never seemed to measure up to the 148's for accuracy. Quantrill

November 12, 2005, 07:07 PM	#8
skeet47 Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Posts: 50	38-100wc For a really nice load for practice I use 2.2 of WST

November 12, 2005, 10:51 PM	#9
gb_in_ga Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2005 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 3,092	"The lighter bullet weights of 125 and 100 gr (and less) never seemed to measure up to the 148's for accuracy." Well, yes, but that's not all that important for the intended purpose. 100's and 125's are not going to be quite as accurate as the 148's, but I've found that they are still good enough for low recoil plinking and marksmanship training. Especially when what I'm trying to do is slowly bring a recoil averse neophyte (my wife) up to more mainstream strength loads without flinching. Baby steps first, in other words. She won't be anywhere near proficient enough to where the lower accuracy potential will make any meaningful difference for quite some time, and by then we will have moved on to more mainstream loadings (like those 148 gr WC's). Essentially, this is to be the next baby step up from shooting a .22. __________________ COME AND TAKE IT http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/batgon.htm Formerly lived in Ga, but now I'm back in Tx! Aaaand, now I'm off to Fla...