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February 28, 2010, 03:52 PM | #1 |
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ATF busts shipment of airsoft guns--said they can be converted to machine guns?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rEuTwYALho
ATF said they did tests to verify they could be converted to "Military grade weapons" ?? Is this true? |
February 28, 2010, 04:10 PM | #2 |
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Are you questioning whether or not the News Team is real, or what? What is it that you didn't understand about the news cast?
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February 28, 2010, 04:12 PM | #3 |
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It seems ludicrous to suggest that a plastic gun can be made to shoot bullets (or full auto). Or for that to be a reason to confiscate them. Ive seen these toys before, are they that dangerous?
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February 28, 2010, 04:31 PM | #4 |
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would be nice if you could convert one into a real gun.... i would have saved aprox 1100 bucks on my Deagle by getting the plastic one and coverting it..
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February 28, 2010, 04:41 PM | #5 |
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Haaaa Haaaaaa
Some agents are going to need reconstructive facial surgery if they try Real ammo in those............ |
February 28, 2010, 04:46 PM | #6 |
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Absolute rubbish on the part of our friend at the office of fine party materials...There is no likelihood that those guns are built with upper and lower that have AR type attaching points.
Even less likely that the barrel would handle the pressures of powder discharge. Nor would any other component. Did I mention that these guns are are designed to take a plastic ball and hurl it out the barrel? Does anyone else doubt that they have a chamber suited to even take a .223/5.56 cartridge? Go ahead and machine one to do this and fire it... Lemme know how that works for you or have your next of kin come on here and post the results... On second thought, I think the Taiwanese shops have just found a way to put AR15/M-16's into our hands at a drastically reduced price. This is gonna put a bunch of American rifle makers out o' bidnezz. I need to order me one... Finally an AR even my uneducated redneck butt can afford. Now to find affordable ammo for my new lead slinger! Brent |
February 28, 2010, 05:08 PM | #7 |
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These dangerous weapons have reaked much havoc on soldiers, just ask this guy:
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February 28, 2010, 05:32 PM | #8 |
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It's been a slow year at the ATF too!
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February 28, 2010, 05:38 PM | #9 |
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Another point of note was the fact that the "party favors" agent said "military grade weapon" did ya'll know beer burns the sinus and nasal region pretty bad when it is ejected at high velocity when hearing such statements about Taiwanese toys?
I bet the goobermint could save loads of dough by buying these and converting them for our folks in the desert! Brent |
February 28, 2010, 06:13 PM | #10 |
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February 28, 2010, 06:27 PM | #11 |
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Yes that vid has been around for quite a few years but with so many copies on the www. why pick the one posted by "aryanbrother"? With the whole "talk about killin' 2 birds with one stone" thing?
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February 28, 2010, 06:55 PM | #12 |
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Hey, stargazer65!
Careful you don't let your kid take that guy to school, or he'll have a criminal record for life!
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February 28, 2010, 07:01 PM | #13 |
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Actually guys....
I have been big into airsoft for a number of years, and they have these new rifles coming out lately that use a gas blowback (GBB) mechanism. These GBB M4s have internal parts that are almost identical to a real M4. Now the airsoft upper wouldn't be able to fire real ammunition, but I am wondering if it is possible that a real AR upper could be modified to fit the airsoft lower receiver with a full auto control group... Watch the following vid, and tell me it doesn't look just like a real M4 lower... The relevant part is at 0:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh7xOJM_zss Now this news story apparently happened a year ago, so I'm thinking that if there were any real concerns with a conversion, we'd all know about it by now...
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That does look like everything was there and in maybe the right place!
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February 28, 2010, 11:23 PM | #15 |
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Yup, my first thought was that the lower was precisely enough made that a real upper could be put on. I initially just thought "unserialed, untraceable AR" but someone else here made the leap to full-auto capability as well.
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March 2, 2010, 01:44 AM | #17 |
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Confiscating something due to its potential to become illegal doesn't make any sense whatsoever. That would be like raiding the shoe store since all those shoe laces could be made into machine guns . Or impounding cars that were capable of speeding, arresting women because they could be converted into prostitutes, or raiding grocery stores and hardware stores for selling materials you could use to cook an illegal drug or make an explosive device, etc. I don't think this would hold up in court if the owner of the shipment pursued the issue.
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Stargazer65,
I live in Connecticut and was wondering, when you say the teachers are encouraged to open and concealed carry, do you mean at school? Or in their private lives? I was under the belief that guns were not allowed on school property. Don't get me wrong, I think it would be great to see shooting sports, firearm safety, and appreciation of firearms brought back to schools. Or did I miss some sarcasm there and you Home School? |
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Yes, I was being sarcastic because we homeschool. You are correct that guns are not allowed on school property. Hopefully no confusion created on my part.
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March 2, 2010, 07:36 AM | #21 |
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LOL, yeah I figured (after I asked the question, little slow on the uptake with so little coffee in me yet).
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Those cwazy Tiawanese...flooding our country with unserialed full auto lowers of our own design, at a competitive airsoft price point.
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March 2, 2010, 04:35 PM | #23 |
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it would take almost a entire new gun thing to render a airsoft gun into a working model that would fire live ammo.
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But.... I did see this on the retailer-in-question's website, I found this new release by them: http://airsoftoutletnw.com/index.php...-Standard.html Quote:
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March 2, 2010, 04:51 PM | #25 |
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The only way I can believe that it would convert is to put a real upper on a toy lower. Even so I would not be the one standing behind it pulling the trigger.
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