May 2, 2012, 09:35 PM | #1 |
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heritage update
Well I finally got the big bore rough rider sighted in. I started at 10 yards shot 3 times all were about a foot low. It took me quite a bit of filing to get it shooting right on. I was a little worried about the heritage brand but now I wouldn't trade it for anything! Especially after the groups I was getting.
The first picture is at 20 yards off hand shooting 158 jsp. The second is of the pistol. |
May 3, 2012, 08:30 AM | #2 |
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They make good guns, and accurate.
I've got a couple of their .22's and have looked at the little bird's head .45. My double action revolvers are the only ones I've not had to regulate. Good job!
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You actually done bought yourself a Taurus:
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/taurus-...cturing/14212/
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Oh boy, I guess that means that my H&R and NEF guns have become Remingtons.
What a difference that is! Pretty good looking finish and grips on that Heritage revolver, and still made in good ol' U.S.A.! Last edited by arcticap; May 3, 2012 at 06:56 PM. |
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May 4, 2012, 06:28 PM | #6 |
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to call heritage a taurus is a crime like calling johnny walker "whiskie"
note, ive never heard anyone say any fixed sight 357 saa was actually regulated for any known 357 load. |
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May 4, 2012, 08:23 PM | #8 |
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Maybe Taurus will do away with that Godawful safety.
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The safety is only on the zamak (and steel) framed .22's. The steel framed .22's are for states like South Carolina which prohibit alloy (zamak) framed firearms because of the melting point of their frames. (I know... I should make a pithy comment here, which I will refrain from making about the nonsense of these laws.)
I like the safety better than a transfer bar.
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Just out of curiosity why does everyone hate the transfer bar? I never really paid attention to them until I noticed everyone saying how much they hate them.
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Likely the fact originates from how Ruger forces it down your neck if you ever send an old one back that didn't come from the factory without it, and it leaves people a bit bitter that their collectible is altered if it needs repair.
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Everybody? I think that's a bit of an overstatement.
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May 6, 2012, 10:58 PM | #13 |
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If Ruger updated your SA revolver, don't they send back the original parts? If someone reinstalls the original parts, they've got records that it was updated.
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From what I've heard they do send back the original parts. I'm wondering where I can get original parts to convert my Single Six new model. I might actually use the thing if it didn't work like a Ruger.
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The transfer bar safety on the Pietta-source guns like yours shouldn't be a major issue. When Uberti grafted a transfer bar onto the SAA-class design (and sold it as the Beretta Stampede) it wasn't quite as strong as the Uberti no-safety designs. I don't know how well Pietta did at the same task. But in general, transfer bars aren't a problem except that they need about 25% more mainspring pressure so...done wrong they can affect trigger feel.
That said, Ruger's transfer bar guns from 1973 forward ("New Model" action) can achieve a pretty damn good trigger feel. The latest variant in the mid-frames such as the New Vaquero starting in 2004 are even better, by a small margin. I've heavily tuned the trigger in my 2005-era NewVaq357 plus shot the snot out of it and it's absolutely sweet. The Heritage safety that people laugh about is the manually operated monstrosity on the rimfire-size frame. That's...well...a bit of a joke.
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As to Taurus buying Heritage: my suspicion is, what they really wanted is the contract with Pietta for the centerfire guns. See, a Pietta with a transfer bar is basically the same gun as the now-discontinued Taurus Gaucho - same size, heft, handling, transfer bar safety, etc. But without the Gaucho's horrific quality control issues!
If I was a Taurus manager, I'd get on the horn with Pietta and work out a deal where the Pietta parts go to Taurus' Miami shop and get turned into the "Gaucho II" or something under the Taurus brand name, while the core Heritage shop gets re-directed back to the rimfire-size-frame guns that they designed and do quite well with for a budget piece. This would be a solid deal for Pietta - they need some way to answer the Uberti/Beretta Stampede and could do so with Taurus' marketing muscle behind the guns. And it would give Taurus a new "Gaucho" that would have nothing to do with Brazil. Taurus would be closer to having a "one stop shop" for SASS/CAS guys with the Rossi levers and the "Pietta Gaucho". Taurus should also work with Pietta to expand this "Pietta Gaucho" line to include Thunderer/Lightning type grip frames and the Pietta "Alchemista" grip frame which is Pietta's answer to the SuperBlackhawk oversize grip frame designed for the huge hands of European SASS competitor "Alchemista" - otherwise known as Pietta's CEO...
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It may be an overstatement for some people, but it's the way I personally feel.
The transfer bar is fine in Pietta's, as they actually build it both ways (with and without it), for different importers.
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alright, does anyone have any proof, legal documents, press releases that can prove "taurus owns heritage" that is being declared in here?
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Is Taurus' next acquisition going to be Hi Point? Even though I own a gun made by Taurus, Heritage & Hi Point one the reasons I bought Heritage & Hi Point is because they were made in America and owned by Americans. In my opinion if a product is made in the USA by a foreign owner it does not make it an American product, just a foreign product that happens to manufactured in America.
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