12 Ga. Hull ID help wanted.

doug66 · January 22, 2012, 07:17 AM

I have a trash sack full of 2.75" 12 Ga. empties that were given to me years ago. Non-ferous head, smooth body, 209 size primers, marked Peters heavy 71/2. Seem to be made like AA, as in no base card in bottom. I'm looking for load data I can use with them.

Bailey Boat · January 22, 2012, 08:18 AM

Remington and Peters are mainly the same hull. If their blue in color they are "Blue Magic's". They were/are a good hull to reload. Snap a good photo to confirm the Blue Magic theory and I'll be happy to go into one of my old manuals and get a load.... PM so I'll know when the photo is up....

doug66 · January 22, 2012, 03:30 PM

133.jpg 133.jpg What Load data to use with these?

Goldy · January 22, 2012, 05:08 PM

Remington data works fine. These are older cases but should be fine as long as you don't try to push max loads out of them.

BigJimP · January 23, 2012, 12:00 PM

I haven't used that hull in at least 20 yrs ....and as I recall, the hulls were pretty brittle ...so they cracked quickly ...and they didn't re-crimp very well.

Not that you can't use them...but if you're going to get into reloading 12ga ...I'd suggest Remington STS or Remington gun club hulls ..as a much better alternative ...with more components easy to get.

In a 12ga reload ....the cost ( about $ 0.10 each ) is in the shot $ 0.04 / powder $ 0.03 / primer $ 0.02 / wad $ 0.01 and the hull is $ 0.005 or about half a cent...

so fussing with an old hull ...isn't economical or something I'd recommend.

Bailey Boat · January 28, 2012, 08:14 AM

Doug, I understand wanting to use the hulls you have and I'll be happy to help but I'm not going to list all of the possible loads on here. I sent you my phone number and I'll be happy to read you some but not knowing what components you have the listing would be LONG.... a phone call would make it much easier....

FrankenMauser · January 28, 2012, 02:45 PM

If you can get your hands on some of the older Alliant, Hodgdon, or Lyman data, there are quite a few loads listed for the Peters hulls.

But, as others have said - Remington data should work.

January 22, 2012, 07:17 AM	#1
doug66 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 116	12 Ga. Hull ID help wanted. I have a trash sack full of 2.75" 12 Ga. empties that were given to me years ago. Non-ferous head, smooth body, 209 size primers, marked Peters heavy 71/2. Seem to be made like AA, as in no base card in bottom. I'm looking for load data I can use with them.

January 28, 2012, 02:45 PM	#7
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	If you can get your hands on some of the older Alliant, Hodgdon, or Lyman data, there are quite a few loads listed for the Peters hulls. But, as others have said - Remington data should work. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

January 22, 2012, 08:18 AM	#2
Bailey Boat Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: NC Posts: 365	Remington and Peters are mainly the same hull. If their blue in color they are "Blue Magic's". They were/are a good hull to reload. Snap a good photo to confirm the Blue Magic theory and I'll be happy to go into one of my old manuals and get a load.... PM so I'll know when the photo is up....

January 22, 2012, 03:30 PM	#3
doug66 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 116	133.jpg 133.jpg What Load data to use with these?

January 22, 2012, 05:08 PM	#4
Goldy Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2004 Posts: 163	Remington data works fine. These are older cases but should be fine as long as you don't try to push max loads out of them.

January 23, 2012, 12:00 PM	#5
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	I haven't used that hull in at least 20 yrs ....and as I recall, the hulls were pretty brittle ...so they cracked quickly ...and they didn't re-crimp very well. Not that you can't use them...but if you're going to get into reloading 12ga ...I'd suggest Remington STS or Remington gun club hulls ..as a much better alternative ...with more components easy to get. In a 12ga reload ....the cost ( about $ 0.10 each ) is in the shot $ 0.04 / powder $ 0.03 / primer $ 0.02 / wad $ 0.01 and the hull is $ 0.005 or about half a cent... so fussing with an old hull ...isn't economical or something I'd recommend.

January 28, 2012, 08:14 AM	#6
Bailey Boat Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: NC Posts: 365	Doug, I understand wanting to use the hulls you have and I'll be happy to help but I'm not going to list all of the possible loads on here. I sent you my phone number and I'll be happy to read you some but not knowing what components you have the listing would be LONG.... a phone call would make it much easier....