December 15, 2014, 06:25 PM | #26 |
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What kind of ammo are you shooting?
Honestly, I'd say that you should contact HK customer service immediately. They are very good and will get the gun taken care of. HK's are one of the few guns that I've owned a dozen of and not a single one has ever had even one failure. The USP Compact is one of my favorites.
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December 15, 2014, 06:27 PM | #27 |
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PMC FMJ 115gr, Winchester FMJ 115gr, and Remington Golden Saber JHP 115gr.
I don't remember any particular differences as they all stovepiped pretty much consistently. |
December 15, 2014, 06:29 PM | #28 |
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Did you have problems with the Golden Saber as well?
HK's are designed around 124gr NATO spec ammo so sometimes the low powered 115gr loads can have hiccups in a new gun with fresh springs. I primarily shoot 124gr. The only ones I've really heard of having break-in issues with light 115gr ammo is the P30L though.
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December 15, 2014, 06:31 PM | #29 |
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Come on...my Springfield eats anything, has jammed maybe twice...
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December 15, 2014, 06:32 PM | #30 |
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Ill admit I also have knowingly overpayed for a gun at Gander Mountain, just because I wanted that gun, and could only find it at G.M.
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December 15, 2014, 06:34 PM | #31 |
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Its not about paying 100-300 dollars more than actual price, its about paying money for a product that doesn't function.
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December 15, 2014, 06:35 PM | #32 | |
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As I said, you should definitely contact HKCS and they will get you squared away.
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HK makes a quality product. .. get it fixed and b done with it
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December 15, 2014, 06:42 PM | #34 |
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Sorry to hear that you're having problems. I internet too much and am always terribly apprehensive the first time(s) to the range with any new gun, just waiting for an experience like yours. Luckily so far my guns have been solid.
I would say if you want to try a quick range trip yet, maybe try some 124 grain, hotter stuff if you can find it (I don't know brands, sorry). But definitely call H&K first and see if they can help you and/or fix your gun before you try to return it to Gander. |
December 15, 2014, 06:51 PM | #35 |
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Thanks, I'll call them tomorrow, I just sent email to them today. If they reply I'll let you guys know. of result.
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December 15, 2014, 07:03 PM | #37 |
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I'll call them tomorrow, I work from 8 30 to 5 but we have a party tomorrow and I can probably find some time to call them. Anyone know of the hold times?
I got the HK because of the rebate, it seems like a good deal, I like buying and collecting different guns. Obviously some I don't like and end up selling, this is not a very good first experience with HK. |
December 15, 2014, 07:23 PM | #38 |
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I've always gotten to a person almost immediately when calling HK.
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I'll call them first thing tomorrow morning, sorry if I come off as rude, I was pretty upset after the range trip, it was embarrassing.
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December 15, 2014, 08:03 PM | #40 |
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To the OP. I STRONGLY suggest that you go to http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/ and let them know of your problems and that you think your HK is a POS. They will provide you with good feedback for your issues.
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FYI Gahaha, if you follow those suggestions, they won't be as polite as we were... I promise. I'm a member over there, as well. It's certainly a good idea to come on over there and let them know about your experience, especially after you've spoken to HKCS. Good luck!
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Word to the wise: don't be rude when you call CS, keep your anger and frustration in check. Let them know you're asking for their help.
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Even top of the line companies, in every industry, occasionally let a dud off the production line. HK's hundreds of worldwide military and police contracts confirm the quality and reputation of the brand. Contact HK. They will make it run like an HK.
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December 15, 2014, 09:16 PM | #44 |
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So I take it all your malfunctions were stovepipe jams? Three things to keep in mind:
1. US-made 9mm FMJ ammunition is notorious for being underpowered. HK pistols are designed to be run with hot duty-grade ammo and have fairly stiff recoil springs as a result. 2. Never run a new gun out of the box without giving it a good cleaning and lube first. Guns are shipped with preservative oil which has normally dried up by the time they're sold, and given the tight fit of all the parts in a new pistol you're just asking for trouble if you don't run it wet during the first range visit. 3. Given 1 and 2 above, if the pistol is limp-wristed it will exacerbate the problem. A lot of guys say they shoot all the time and don't limp-wrist, but I've watched a few and can say their arms and wrists were not locked. Once the break-in period is over a quality pistol shouldn't jam when limp-wristed, but don't be surprised if it's sensitive before then. And to add to what others have said, even HK's products aren't immune to defects. Most European gun manufacturers do test-fire and target their guns before shipping (unlike many American gun manufacturers who sometimes don't even test-fire), which is why the end user usually gets a quality product right out of the box. However slip-ups do happen. If they didn't HK wouldn't even bother having a service department. |
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1. People tell me they feed their HK all sorts of crap and they run fine.
2. I cleaned it before shooting. 3. Trust me...I don't limp wrist. I can fire quickly and accurately with similar guns, of same weight. 4. This may be the case. |
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On the subject of limp-wristing, let me just say that because it was my first pistol I've limp-wristed my USP .40 compact many times, badly, with crap ammunition, on a used gun with a fairly beaten-up frame. Never had a failure as a result. Maybe the fact that the gun is so heavily used contributes to how smoothly it runs.
One time I flinched so bad that, although my hand was extended, the gun itself was angled all the way up towards the ceiling. I remember that moment to this day because it still gives me chills when I think about how close I came to dropping the gun that time. It was foolish, but a valuable lesson at least. The next round fed perfectly nonetheless. In about 1000 rounds of mostly bottom-of-the-barrel reloading ammo (including reloaded nosler JHPs) and bargain winchester FMJ, the only stovepipe I've been able to produce has come from firing the gun when it was over-lubricated. Mind you, I still used the gun for close to 200 rounds that session and only had two stovepipes, but those are the two failures the gun has ever produced while I've owned it. It's a 2001 model if that makes a difference. I'm not in anyway saying this to take away from what Gahaha is saying in this thread, but I'm just sharing my experiences to perhaps explain why I and others are so surprised by Gahaha's experiences. Maybe I've just been lucky to have received an exceptional specimen, but my experiences have been so emphatic that it I've become a true believer in HK polymer pistols, a belief that has been bolstered by the opinions I've read on the internet. Again, not discounting your experiences. I hope you get your issue resolved and I'm sorry for your bad experiences. I bet everyone on this forum has purchased a defective gun or two (probably even far more than that for some of you ) |
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A friend of mine has a 9mm Kimber, which we all know the horror stories with 1911 in 9mm. He's been firing guns for longer than I have, and his kept jamming on him. When he called Kimber CS they blamed it on the exact same issue. After much hassle Kimber finally takes the gun fixing it a portion at a time and after being back and forth so much he finally sold it at a loss.
Is this the same sort of thing I will have to go through with HK? Will I have to drive to them and shoot in front of them to prove I'm not limp wristing? I mean the gun jams 5/10 rounds...Stove piping and FTF constantly. |
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Just throwing a little humor at you. I understand that frustration. I hope HK does you right. Keep us posted. |
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I suggest you let an experienced shooter to test your new HK to see if the problem occurs again. A box of your favorite practice ammo may save you some time and expense down the road.
Using factory ammo or reloads? I've never heard of a new HK having the problems you describe. The USP is a time tested model with a reputation for extraordinary reliability. But anything is possible. |
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