Anybody Ever Fire a .357 in a SD Situation? - Page 4

benp · July 19, 2015, 09:46 PM

Kinda....

Chased after a Black Bear into the woods last summer that was in the trash.

I was ticked to say the least. I had had enough of their shenanigans.

I cut loose with two rounds into the ground right behind him. Did not notice the large overhead canopy I was in.

Left eardrum went pop. Felt like I got plowed with a ping pong paddle on the left side.

Got back into the house and crawled into bed. MY girlfiend said why is the side of your head wet. I replied..."We'll talk in the morning. Something something f-in bears"

Prof Young · July 19, 2015, 10:11 PM

BillM - You can't repair the kind of damage that occurs from hearing lost due to exposure to loud sounds. I've seen a tinnitus specialist at Wash U and there ain't nothing. Where did you get the idea that it could be repaired?

Always wear hearing protection. Power tools, lawn mowers, shooting any caliber etc.

Live well, be safe.
Prof Young

mrentropy · July 23, 2015, 10:07 AM

Re hearing damage (and not the OP's question):

There is some evidence that N-acetylcysteine ("NAC"), taken orally after exposure to the sound of gunfire, can help protect against NIHL (noise-induced hearing loss).

See: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22122955

I was surprised at this, thinking that the damage was mechanical damage to the "hairs" on the hair cells in the ear. Not true. The damage, apparently, is oxidative stress that happens after the exposure to noise.

I'm not an MD, and this isn't medical advice, but personally I take NAC orally after visits to loud gun ranges (some are louder than others), even though I always wear hearing protection, since the noise from shock waves isn't the same as other, continuous noise. And I take some in my pack when I go hunting.

Personally, I have lost a bit of hearing in my left ear* and have persistent tinnitus in it from two single shots in the open from a 300 win mag. I mean, how do you put on hearing protection while hunting elk? I have since switched to 270 win - or a bow - but that's another subject.

NAC is available over the counter where I live (California) in GNC (supplement chain store). California: suppressors? Felony. Drugs? No problem. Like anything, it's not without side effects and, again, this isn't medical advice, but something to consider....

Regards,
MrEntropy

*Right-handed rifle shooters get hit on the left side of the face by the shock wave.

samsmix · August 8, 2015, 11:35 AM

My introduction to handgun shooting was with a 7.5" SBH in .44mag. Shot probably 5 50rd boxes without "ears" on. My ears would ring like hell for a few hours but I've been tested recently and have no significant hearing loss. I DID wise up and start wearing my plugs or muffs, but I'm surprised more damage wasn't done. I carry a .357 at work and have some hot Buffalo Bore .357s in my speed loaders, but if I have to use them I'll have worse things to worry about than my ears.

My Dad serves through 72 combat operations in the Pacific Theatre of WWII. It was a light cruiser, the USS Santa Fe. He was on a 40mm twin, firing 240 rpm and sitting below the muzzles of a 5"/38 dual purpose. When GQ sounded they manned their guns and started firing. They didnt waste time looking for ear muffs. It wiped out his high range. You can hold a normal conversation with him, but he cannot hear his smoke detector at all! He had to fight with the VA for over 10 years before they would admit his hearing loss was service related.

dnsharpshooter · August 8, 2015, 02:34 PM

i keep a pair of electronic muffs on top of the safe, the kind that amplify normal sounds but get quiet when theres a sound over 80 db.

if something goes bump in the night, im grabbing either my 12 gauge or my .40. i had an accidental discharge in my bedroom with the 12 gauge, i could not hear for probably 30 minutes after.

North East Redneck · August 9, 2015, 01:10 AM

Never fired any round in SD. Used to fire .22 rifles and pistols without any protection. Also .38+P and black powder rifles and revolvers. Shot a few rounds out of a friends SP101 in .357 without hearing protection. All these were outdoors. Being young and dumb thought nothing of it. I fired one round of .223 from my AR without plugs or muffs. That one round changed my opinion of hearing protection. It hurt. Now all shooting is done with at least muffs and I double up with plugs and muffs if I plan on shooting rounds that produce much pressure. My employer requires extensive physical tests each year. Had the hearing test done a couple weeks ago, no significant hearing loss detected. I guess I'm lucky. The gun shots, loud pipes on the Harley and extensive exposure to industrial equipment hasn't caused much harm. I'm only 39 though and have noticed an increasing intolerance to 'sharp' loud noises. Used to attend loud rock/punk/country concerts. Now if I go to a show I wear ear plugs. Also been thinking that plugs should be a part of my mowing, splitting and chainsaw use gear.

hartcreek · August 9, 2015, 03:33 AM

I already had 50 % hearing loss from occupational exposure but three years a go I was inside when an officer discharged three rounds from a .40 inside a mobile home. I was five feet behind him. All I heard was three not so loud pops.

Tikka_shooter · August 9, 2015, 10:48 AM

Quote:

In the infantry you lose 55% in one year of combat. This allows the VA to claim you could hear when you left the service. What they did was remove the safety cushion and render you hearing handicapped at a much younger age.

Everyone has read enough about the issues with the VA to know they aren't in the business of helping Veterans.

As a 11B, I was exposed to almost every weapon the Army had during Vietnam; from 45ACP to artillery firing at a FSB.

July 19, 2015, 10:11 PM	#77
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,404	Repair hearing damage ???? BillM - You can't repair the kind of damage that occurs from hearing lost due to exposure to loud sounds. I've seen a tinnitus specialist at Wash U and there ain't nothing. Where did you get the idea that it could be repaired? Always wear hearing protection. Power tools, lawn mowers, shooting any caliber etc. Live well, be safe. Prof Young

July 23, 2015, 10:07 AM	#78
mrentropy Member Join Date: July 22, 2015 Posts: 40	Re hearing damage (and not the OP's question): There is some evidence that N-acetylcysteine ("NAC"), taken orally after exposure to the sound of gunfire, can help protect against NIHL (noise-induced hearing loss). See: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22122955 I was surprised at this, thinking that the damage was mechanical damage to the "hairs" on the hair cells in the ear. Not true. The damage, apparently, is oxidative stress that happens after the exposure to noise. I'm not an MD, and this isn't medical advice, but personally I take NAC orally after visits to loud gun ranges (some are louder than others), even though I always wear hearing protection, since the noise from shock waves isn't the same as other, continuous noise. And I take some in my pack when I go hunting. Personally, I have lost a bit of hearing in my left ear* and have persistent tinnitus in it from two single shots in the open from a 300 win mag. I mean, how do you put on hearing protection while hunting elk? I have since switched to 270 win - or a bow - but that's another subject. NAC is available over the counter where I live (California) in GNC (supplement chain store). California: suppressors? Felony. Drugs? No problem. Like anything, it's not without side effects and, again, this isn't medical advice, but something to consider.... Regards, MrEntropy Right-handed rifle shooters get hit on the left side of the face by the shock wave. Last edited by mrentropy; July 23, 2015 at 10:15 AM.*

August 8, 2015, 11:35 AM	#79
samsmix Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2006 Location: Montana (Montucky?) Posts: 1,273	My introduction to handgun shooting was with a 7.5" SBH in .44mag. Shot probably 5 50rd boxes without "ears" on. My ears would ring like hell for a few hours but I've been tested recently and have no significant hearing loss. I DID wise up and start wearing my plugs or muffs, but I'm surprised more damage wasn't done. I carry a .357 at work and have some hot Buffalo Bore .357s in my speed loaders, but if I have to use them I'll have worse things to worry about than my ears. My Dad serves through 72 combat operations in the Pacific Theatre of WWII. It was a light cruiser, the USS Santa Fe. He was on a 40mm twin, firing 240 rpm and sitting below the muzzles of a 5"/38 dual purpose. When GQ sounded they manned their guns and started firing. They didnt waste time looking for ear muffs. It wiped out his high range. You can hold a normal conversation with him, but he cannot hear his smoke detector at all! He had to fight with the VA for over 10 years before they would admit his hearing loss was service related. __________________ You'll probably never NEED a gun. I hope you never do. But IF you do, you will need it worse than anything you've ever needed in your life. IF we're not supposed to eat animals, howcome God made 'em outta meat?

August 9, 2015, 01:10 AM	#81
North East Redneck Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2012 Location: Berkshire Hills Posts: 741	Never fired any round in SD. Used to fire .22 rifles and pistols without any protection. Also .38+P and black powder rifles and revolvers. Shot a few rounds out of a friends SP101 in .357 without hearing protection. All these were outdoors. Being young and dumb thought nothing of it. I fired one round of .223 from my AR without plugs or muffs. That one round changed my opinion of hearing protection. It hurt. Now all shooting is done with at least muffs and I double up with plugs and muffs if I plan on shooting rounds that produce much pressure. My employer requires extensive physical tests each year. Had the hearing test done a couple weeks ago, no significant hearing loss detected. I guess I'm lucky. The gun shots, loud pipes on the Harley and extensive exposure to industrial equipment hasn't caused much harm. I'm only 39 though and have noticed an increasing intolerance to 'sharp' loud noises. Used to attend loud rock/punk/country concerts. Now if I go to a show I wear ear plugs. Also been thinking that plugs should be a part of my mowing, splitting and chainsaw use gear. __________________ NRA Patron Member SAF Life Member GOAL Member Last edited by North East Redneck; August 9, 2015 at 01:16 AM.

July 19, 2015, 09:46 PM	#76
benp Member Join Date: December 17, 2009 Location: MN Posts: 46	Kinda.... Chased after a Black Bear into the woods last summer that was in the trash. I was ticked to say the least. I had had enough of their shenanigans. I cut loose with two rounds into the ground right behind him. Did not notice the large overhead canopy I was in. Left eardrum went pop. Felt like I got plowed with a ping pong paddle on the left side. Got back into the house and crawled into bed. MY girlfiend said why is the side of your head wet. I replied..."We'll talk in the morning. Something something f-in bears"

August 8, 2015, 02:34 PM	#80
dnsharpshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2011 Location: Ahwatukee, AZ Posts: 212	i keep a pair of electronic muffs on top of the safe, the kind that amplify normal sounds but get quiet when theres a sound over 80 db. if something goes bump in the night, im grabbing either my 12 gauge or my .40. i had an accidental discharge in my bedroom with the 12 gauge, i could not hear for probably 30 minutes after.

August 9, 2015, 03:33 AM	#82
hartcreek Junior member Join Date: April 22, 2014 Location: Washington Posts: 1,549	I already had 50 % hearing loss from occupational exposure but three years a go I was inside when an officer discharged three rounds from a .40 inside a mobile home. I was five feet behind him. All I heard was three not so loud pops.