Is the 22LR the same diameter as the 223? - Page 2

kaylorinhi · May 21, 2010, 02:14 PM

all bore cleaning gear is interchangable, .22lr last resort only, 5.56 or .223 frangible, as many as you need.

15 yds = 45 ft

21 ft = 7 yds

per the FBI study

Mike

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p99guy · May 21, 2010, 02:36 PM

RMT, in those very narrow set of circumstances it does work horrifically, as i said ......but quickly degrades to less than leathal, as said.
But as we both know, you have to have something that tends to work in a wide variety of circumstances, a general purpose round so to speak.

Inside a room I have no doubt you could litterally disassemble a person with it, and folks do it weekly(its what the crime scene tape is for) it does kill, and spatters chunks all over a room (I have seen two shotgun/birdshot suicides, and those are special)
Its the keeping all your prospective opponants at no further than 10yds to get the effect is the downfall.

Would I use it unless there was absolutely nothing else?..heck no!!!!

in fact im a Carbine person rather than big shotgun fan.

Bamashooter · May 21, 2010, 02:48 PM

there is no doubt in my mind that you could blow someone in half from 10-15ft. with birdshot. ive seen it happen at farther distance than that. as far as a .22, someone in my hometown recently killed his wife, brother, dog and injured another who was fleeing with a .22. he had to reload to kill himself. when you are getting shot at it doesnt matter what it is you duck and run. at least thats been my reaction.

rickyrick · May 21, 2010, 03:09 PM

when I take friends out shooting, most of them, don't own guns..........eventually they want to have a go at the 12ga.......after a few shots with 00 or slugs they allways say they expected a lot more of a dramatic effect, so then, I load birdshot and let them blow a 2x4 in half and they're happy.

I often invite novices to shoot, try to spark an interest in the hobby.

Art Eatman · May 21, 2010, 04:26 PM

'Nuf wanderin' for one thread.

May 21, 2010, 02:14 PM	#26
kaylorinhi Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Location: The brown eye of america Posts: 463	My 2 cents all bore cleaning gear is interchangable, .22lr last resort only, 5.56 or .223 frangible, as many as you need. 15 yds = 45 ft 21 ft = 7 yds per the FBI study Mike <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_McIBT3ZKpw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_McIBT3ZKpw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> __________________ Buy your guns by Yardline, Not Looks. Last edited by kaylorinhi; May 21, 2010 at 02:24 PM. Reason: Add video

May 21, 2010, 02:36 PM	#27
p99guy Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2004 Location: Haslet,Texas(DFW area) Posts: 1,506	RMT, in those very narrow set of circumstances it does work horrifically, as i said ......but quickly degrades to less than leathal, as said. But as we both know, you have to have something that tends to work in a wide variety of circumstances, a general purpose round so to speak. Inside a room I have no doubt you could litterally disassemble a person with it, and folks do it weekly(its what the crime scene tape is for) it does kill, and spatters chunks all over a room (I have seen two shotgun/birdshot suicides, and those are special) Its the keeping all your prospective opponants at no further than 10yds to get the effect is the downfall. Would I use it unless there was absolutely nothing else?..heck no!!!! in fact im a Carbine person rather than big shotgun fan. __________________ Lighten up Francis!.....;Actor Warren Oats, in the movie "Stripes"

May 21, 2010, 03:09 PM	#29
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	this is way off topic when I take friends out shooting, most of them, don't own guns..........eventually they want to have a go at the 12ga.......after a few shots with 00 or slugs they allways say they expected a lot more of a dramatic effect, so then, I load birdshot and let them blow a 2x4 in half and they're happy. I often invite novices to shoot, try to spark an interest in the hobby. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!! Last edited by rickyrick; May 21, 2010 at 03:12 PM. Reason: fat fingers

May 21, 2010, 02:48 PM	#28
Bamashooter Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2010 Posts: 1,860	there is no doubt in my mind that you could blow someone in half from 10-15ft. with birdshot. ive seen it happen at farther distance than that. as far as a .22, someone in my hometown recently killed his wife, brother, dog and injured another who was fleeing with a .22. he had to reload to kill himself. when you are getting shot at it doesnt matter what it is you duck and run. at least thats been my reaction.

May 21, 2010, 04:26 PM	#30
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	'Nuf wanderin' for one thread.