173 gr .308 match bullet from DCM

Colduglandon · March 5, 1999, 11:26 PM

Looking for load data for the bullets sold by DCM. I am using 4064 powder. To be used in an M1 Garrand and a 1917 US Enfield. Both 30-06.

I have tried 4 loads of 41 43 45 and 47 gns of 4064 powder. Had the best luck with 43 and 45. Will try 43.5 44 and 44.5 and see how I do. Have not tried the M1 yet.

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fal308 · March 6, 1999, 09:59 AM

Have you tried searching the on-line sites of the powder companies? Severa of them have their manuals on-line.

HankL · March 11, 1999, 07:47 PM

I too am working up some loads with the 173
but in a .308. The Garand likes IMR 4064 very well and you should do well by starting out with a load of 47.5 and working on it. The bolt gun will probably be happy with another load but you will be able to find one that both will like. Just remember that the Garand, being a gas operated firearm is much more demanding of what you feed it.

HankL · April 9, 2001, 07:23 PM

You know, it takes a few to find your very first post on TFL.

Joe Portale · April 9, 2001, 10:47 PM

FWIW,

The Lake City National Match 173 grain round (M72/M118) is as follows:

173/175 grain Boat tail on top of 47.5 grains of 4895.

An equalivalent load (according to my notes) using 4064 works out to: 47 grains.

I used this load for a couple of seasons and switched to Accurate 2520.

Like stated earlier, start with 45 grains of the 4064 and work up. Go to IMI's web site: http://www.imipowders.com. They have their reloading data on line.

Joe Portale · April 9, 2001, 10:49 PM

Correction, I said IMI, it should have been IMR. The web address is:

http://www.imrpowders.com

Sorry for the mix up.

Poodleshooter · April 10, 2001, 01:26 PM

We are quite the archaeologist aren't we Hank?

Speaking of the 173 grainers, where in heck do you get those from??? Is that on the DCM webpage? I remember the old guys at the Fort Meade,MD rifle club ordering these, but I was only 14 or so and don't remember the details.

Colduglandon · April 10, 2001, 05:27 PM

I purchased the bullets from DCM a while back. I am using 4895 now in the Enfield and Garrand.

HankL · April 10, 2001, 06:31 PM

I got a few thousand from the DCM a while back myself through my club I beleive. That was back when they would motor freight ammo to you

Poodleshooter, yeah, I got to digging mainly to see how healthy the database was. Some pretty good post back then as well.
Regards

mbott · April 11, 2001, 08:39 PM

Poodleshooter: I believe Graf and Sons currently carries the M72 173 gr. projectiles and I know that Jeff Bartlett at GI Brass (www.gibrass.com) does, too. I just used my last 100 today, so I'll be placing an order for more tomorrow with Jeff.

I run this through my M1903A3 and my M1917 but not my Garands. Current accuracy load for my M1917 is 44.5 grains of IMR 4895 PD in either military LC or HXP cases.

--
Mike

sundog · April 16, 2001, 05:42 PM

Paul, my M1 shoots expert with those bullets and 47.0 of 4064 in LC Match cases (also came from CMP). I just hold on (he-he-he). sundog

April 9, 2001, 10:47 PM	#5
Joe Portale Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 1999 Location: Tucson, Arizona Territory Posts: 715	FWIW, The Lake City National Match 173 grain round (M72/M118) is as follows: 173/175 grain Boat tail on top of 47.5 grains of 4895. An equalivalent load (according to my notes) using 4064 works out to: 47 grains. I used this load for a couple of seasons and switched to Accurate 2520. Like stated earlier, start with 45 grains of the 4064 and work up. Go to IMI's web site: http://www.imipowders.com. They have their reloading data on line. __________________ Joe Portale Tucson, Arizona Territory "Even now in heaven there are angles carrying savage weapons". - St Paul

April 9, 2001, 10:49 PM	#6
Joe Portale Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 1999 Location: Tucson, Arizona Territory Posts: 715	Correction, I said IMI, it should have been IMR. The web address is: http://www.imrpowders.com Sorry for the mix up. __________________ Joe Portale Tucson, Arizona Territory "Even now in heaven there are angles carrying savage weapons". - St Paul

March 5, 1999, 11:26 PM	#1
Colduglandon Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 1999 Location: Mass Posts: 493	Looking for load data for the bullets sold by DCM. I am using 4064 powder. To be used in an M1 Garrand and a 1917 US Enfield. Both 30-06. I have tried 4 loads of 41 43 45 and 47 gns of 4064 powder. Had the best luck with 43 and 45. Will try 43.5 44 and 44.5 and see how I do. Have not tried the M1 yet. [This message has been edited by Paul Morceau (edited March 26, 1999).] [This message has been edited by Paul Morceau (edited March 31, 1999).] [This message has been edited by Paul Morceau (edited March 31, 1999).]

March 6, 1999, 09:59 AM	#2
fal308 Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,992	Have you tried searching the on-line sites of the powder companies? Severa of them have their manuals on-line.

March 11, 1999, 07:47 PM	#3
HankL Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 1999 Location: The Sunny South Posts: 2,174	I too am working up some loads with the 173 but in a .308. The Garand likes IMR 4064 very well and you should do well by starting out with a load of 47.5 and working on it. The bolt gun will probably be happy with another load but you will be able to find one that both will like. Just remember that the Garand, being a gas operated firearm is much more demanding of what you feed it.

April 9, 2001, 07:23 PM	#4
HankL Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 1999 Location: The Sunny South Posts: 2,174	You know, it takes a few to find your very first post on TFL.

April 10, 2001, 01:26 PM	#7
Poodleshooter Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2000 Location: Floating down the James River in VA Posts: 2,599	We are quite the archaeologist aren't we Hank? Speaking of the 173 grainers, where in heck do you get those from??? Is that on the DCM webpage? I remember the old guys at the Fort Meade,MD rifle club ordering these, but I was only 14 or so and don't remember the details.

April 10, 2001, 05:27 PM	#8
Colduglandon Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 1999 Location: Mass Posts: 493	I purchased the bullets from DCM a while back. I am using 4895 now in the Enfield and Garrand.

April 10, 2001, 06:31 PM	#9
HankL Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 1999 Location: The Sunny South Posts: 2,174	I got a few thousand from the DCM a while back myself through my club I beleive. That was back when they would motor freight ammo to you Poodleshooter, yeah, I got to digging mainly to see how healthy the database was. Some pretty good post back then as well. Regards

April 11, 2001, 08:39 PM	#10
mbott Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1999 Location: Westerville, Ohio Posts: 640	Poodleshooter: I believe Graf and Sons currently carries the M72 173 gr. projectiles and I know that Jeff Bartlett at GI Brass (www.gibrass.com) does, too. I just used my last 100 today, so I'll be placing an order for more tomorrow with Jeff. I run this through my M1903A3 and my M1917 but not my Garands. Current accuracy load for my M1917 is 44.5 grains of IMR 4895 PD in either military LC or HXP cases. -- Mike

April 16, 2001, 05:42 PM	#11
sundog Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 1999 Location: Green Country, OK Posts: 782	Paul, my M1 shoots expert with those bullets and 47.0 of 4064 in LC Match cases (also came from CMP). I just hold on (he-he-he). sundog