Mosin Nagants Overrated - Page 3

jhenry · March 22, 2011, 07:21 PM

My 1943 Finn M39 Sako with a slightly worn bore and crown will put czech surplus into 1.5" at 100 meters with a good man on the trigger. It has a 1916 Ishy receiver. I also have a M38, no 91/30 yet. My own opinion is that the M39's are the best of the breed.

Mutatio Nomenis · March 22, 2011, 09:01 PM

It's beside the topic, but don't you need a C&R for a Nagant?

raftman · March 22, 2011, 09:31 PM

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It's beside the topic, but don't you need a C&R for a Nagant?

Only if you want the Mosin-Nagant mailed straight to your house.

A C&R license isn't some sort of license that allows you to possess certain firearms not available to those that don't have said license... it merely allows the C&R licensee to directly obtain qualifying firearms (specifically those on the C&R list) without going through the FFL transfer process (if ordering from out of state, for example). The gun can be sent straight to purchaser.

These same firearms (those on the C&R list) can most certainly be owned by someone without a C&R license, for example, I myself don't have a C&R, but have several C&R-eligible firearms, including a Mosin M44. Only difference is, if I were to mail-order a C&R firearm, it has to go to a local FFL dealer, who will then (for a small fee) transfer it to me, perform the background check and so forth. If I had bothered with getting a C&R, all of those firearms could instead have come straight to my house and I would merely have to log their acquisition appropriately.

Mutatio Nomenis · March 22, 2011, 09:42 PM

^ Thank you. 10char

Buzzcook · March 22, 2011, 10:02 PM

I have heard people wax a little rhapsodic over their new Mosin.
It's normal to speak highly of your new girl even if she isn't the prettiest at the hop.
Compared to its peers the Mosin isn't the nicest gun around. Compared to the job those guns were supposed to do it was as good as any.

Fat White Boy · March 22, 2011, 10:08 PM

Mosins are multi-functional... I use mine as a tire tool, a jack handle, the bayonet as a fire place poker, the flash from my M44 to start camp fires and it still shoots fine!!

Eagle0711 · March 23, 2011, 02:25 PM

^ Thanks Slamfire, thats a good explanation.

Stephanie B · March 23, 2011, 02:45 PM

I picked up an ex-sniper MN for $110 at a gunshop. It showed promise, so I installed a Mojo rear sight.

With Wolf/Privi Partizan 180gr rounds, it is as good an open-sight rifle as I could want and, for less than $200 all-up, that's pretty hard to hate.

8shot357 · March 26, 2011, 12:25 AM

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Sarge

I've never quite understood the allure of the Mosin either

I bought a almost mint one (M44) for $100, can't get a Mauser that price everyday if ever.

Hell, www.Aimsurplus.com is selling one (1891/30) in very good condition for $69.95+shipping. The one I got is beautiful, as is the rifling.

zombieslayer · March 26, 2011, 09:13 PM

"My 1943 Finn M39 Sako with a slightly worn bore and crown will put czech surplus into 1.5" at 100 meters with a good man on the trigger. It has a 1916 Ishy receiver. I also have a M38, no 91/30 yet. My own opinion is that the M39's are the best of the breed".

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I scored a solid M39 in a bargain rack at a local pawn shop for $150. Its a really good shooting rifle, and is my favorite milsurp. I also have an SMLE and a Mauser._

Singlesix1954 · March 27, 2011, 05:40 PM

Ok my 1938 Mosin shoots realy good (1 inch groups from the bench @ 100yds) are the norm. It has had a trigger job making it a 2lb pull as oposed to the 19 plus lb trigger it had when I got it. I bought it as kind of a joke with a buddy because it was to cheep to pass up when we found nice ones. Now it is no match for my pre 64 .308 win featherweight, or some of my other toys. In fact I'm sure my 92 Krag and my 1903 Springfield will out shoot it. That said it does shoot good enough to be fun. If someone needed a cheep rifle with cheep ammo to take to the range, or hunt coyote to deer sized game with there is nothing wrong with one. So I don't think it is overated. Just misunderstood and bashed by folks who are kind of snobish.

Old Time Hunter · March 27, 2011, 08:12 PM

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I'm in the group thinking, "How do you over-rate an 89 dollar rifle?"

My sentiments also...and I've never paid over $69 for one.

Minute of man is all that was called for.

March 22, 2011, 07:21 PM	#51
jhenry Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Location: Ozarks Posts: 1,840	My 1943 Finn M39 Sako with a slightly worn bore and crown will put czech surplus into 1.5" at 100 meters with a good man on the trigger. It has a 1916 Ishy receiver. I also have a M38, no 91/30 yet. My own opinion is that the M39's are the best of the breed. __________________ "A Liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory". - Charles Krauthammer

March 26, 2011, 09:13 PM	#60
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	"My 1943 Finn M39 Sako with a slightly worn bore and crown will put czech surplus into 1.5" at 100 meters with a good man on the trigger. It has a 1916 Ishy receiver. I also have a M38, no 91/30 yet. My own opinion is that the M39's are the best of the breed". _________________ I scored a solid M39 in a bargain rack at a local pawn shop for $150. Its a really good shooting rifle, and is my favorite milsurp. I also have an SMLE and a Mauser._ __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

March 27, 2011, 05:40 PM	#61
Singlesix1954 Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Rural Ne Posts: 580	My 2 cents. Ok my 1938 Mosin shoots realy good (1 inch groups from the bench @ 100yds) are the norm. It has had a trigger job making it a 2lb pull as oposed to the 19 plus lb trigger it had when I got it. I bought it as kind of a joke with a buddy because it was to cheep to pass up when we found nice ones. Now it is no match for my pre 64 .308 win featherweight, or some of my other toys. In fact I'm sure my 92 Krag and my 1903 Springfield will out shoot it. That said it does shoot good enough to be fun. If someone needed a cheep rifle with cheep ammo to take to the range, or hunt coyote to deer sized game with there is nothing wrong with one. So I don't think it is overated. Just misunderstood and bashed by folks who are kind of snobish. __________________ Luke 22:36 Single six 1954

March 22, 2011, 09:01 PM	#52
Mutatio Nomenis Junior member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 167	It's beside the topic, but don't you need a C&R for a Nagant?

March 22, 2011, 09:42 PM	#54
Mutatio Nomenis Junior member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 167	^ Thank you. 10char

March 22, 2011, 10:02 PM	#55
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	I have heard people wax a little rhapsodic over their new Mosin. It's normal to speak highly of your new girl even if she isn't the prettiest at the hop. Compared to its peers the Mosin isn't the nicest gun around. Compared to the job those guns were supposed to do it was as good as any.

March 22, 2011, 10:08 PM	#56
Fat White Boy Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2005 Posts: 1,276	Mosins are multi-functional... I use mine as a tire tool, a jack handle, the bayonet as a fire place poker, the flash from my M44 to start camp fires and it still shoots fine!!

March 23, 2011, 02:25 PM	#57
Eagle0711 Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2010 Posts: 782	^ Thanks Slamfire, thats a good explanation.

March 23, 2011, 02:45 PM	#58
Stephanie B Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2008 Location: NWern SE Missouri Posts: 339	I picked up an ex-sniper MN for $110 at a gunshop. It showed promise, so I installed a Mojo rear sight. With Wolf/Privi Partizan 180gr rounds, it is as good an open-sight rifle as I could want and, for less than $200 all-up, that's pretty hard to hate.