Kinetic Munitions

Bucksnort1 · May 7, 2015, 03:26 PM

I did a quick search for information about Kinetic Munitions. I found a thread but not with the information I'm seeking.

A friend told me of this company and some special ammunition they make. The entire case is polymer. For reloading, there is no re-sizing and there are no reloading tools required except for removing the spent primer and a hand tool for seating a new primer. You pour a specific amount of selected powder to a fill line in the case then seat the bullet by hand.

Comments?

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Skans · May 7, 2015, 04:12 PM

Actually, only part of the case is polymer. Still, I checked it out and it I like the concept. I sure hope the "$15" quoted amount, however, isn't for one cartridge! If so, then I'm not getting the advantage or the concept???

skizzums · May 7, 2015, 04:43 PM

cool, I may have to try that out since my dad lives in "john's creek"(Duluth).

13.50 for a box of loaded 9mm, not bad. only issue I have is the bullets look proprietary, but if their prices are good, we'll see....

watching the videos, looks like these guys have some real money to play with. I hope none is totally invested in this concept, interesting as it may be...

took awhile to find it, 4.75c for 50 bullets. not bad

lamarw · May 7, 2015, 05:58 PM

Oh my goodness, it is so easy to reload 9mm for less than one half the mentioned price of $13.50.

My reloading equipment has paid for itself years ago. I can sell it used anytime for more than I paid for it. Good investment all the way around.

Ruger480 · May 7, 2015, 06:02 PM

this is the link in case anybody else would like to see it.

smee78 · May 7, 2015, 06:23 PM

mmmmmmmm I think I will just stick with my old fashion ammo for now. I dont like being a beta tester.

Bucksnort1 · May 7, 2015, 11:09 PM

Smee78,

I agree with you about sticking with the current trend. I say current, heck, it has been around for along long time.

Wow! Your comment about the cow is priceless and dead nuts true. Thanks.

longspurr · May 8, 2015, 09:18 PM

I don't know if this is the same company – or a new one that bought out an earlier company, but this same ammo was introduces 10+ years ago. It never caught on and here we are in 2015 thinking this is a new item.

I know I am going to try ordering some ammo just to have it as a collectors item. If it stays around then great, if not then I have a novelty to show folks.

My take on it. For those that already have a reloader set up, we are not interested. For those that would like to try it – an easy and cheap introduction.

For those that would like to introduce a new shooter with a reduced load – easy to do that.

Double Naught Spy · May 9, 2015, 10:24 AM

It bugs the crap out of me when companies like Kinetic make obviously biased videos to show how their ammo is better by making non-like comparisons. Here they found the slowest, heavy, soft lead .38 spl round and fired it in such a manner to allow the steel plate and wood to basically "catch" the round. Then they fired the much lighter, faster, solid copper round at a part of the barrier that would not flex. It penetrated, which is no surprise.

Kinetic Munitions · May 10, 2015, 07:23 AM

Thanks to everyone for your interest in our products and your posts. We truly believe Kinetic Ammo will be evolutionary for the industry and offer customers with a superior cost/benefit option. Here are a couple of quick responses to the questions and comment - there is much more information on our website on Facebook pages.

Our estimated prices are for boxes not each. Final prices will be published when we complete our crowdfunding.

"Reloading a box for less than half of our estimated price." Our cases can be reloaded multiple times and when reloaded will be significantly more economical lowering your total spend. Or bullets are solid copper and we believe will outperform anything even close to the price range The vast majority of shooters cannot reload 6-700 an hour. If your current reloading process works for you that is great but many do not want to spend the time and effort when there is a more economical and easier process.

"Sticking with the current trend" - We understand no everyone will be an early adopter of our system but hope you will give us a try sometime in the future. My 21 inch standard definition television served me well for many years but I prefer a much larger high definition screen today.

Our comparison video - Please see our follow up video posted on Thursday. We address your exact comment and many others that we have received. We are a company that is being built for the customer and will answer all relevant questions the best we can. As a new company we have to finds ways to introduce our products and videos are the most effective channel.

Thanks
Kinetic Management Team

MarkCO · May 10, 2015, 08:00 AM

crowdfunding...that should tell you something.

Double Naught Spy · May 11, 2015, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Our comparison video - Please see our follow up video posted on Thursday. We address your exact comment and many others that we have received. We are a company that is being built for the customer and will answer all relevant questions the best we can. As a new company we have to finds ways to introduce our products and videos are the most effective channel.

If you aren't going to bother to post a link to you own video..., LOL.

Skans · May 11, 2015, 07:47 AM

I appreciated reading Kinetic Munitions' response - thanks for addressing some of our questions here! Another successful ammunition company (albeit an alternative form of ammunition) is a good thing.

NukemJim · May 13, 2015, 11:11 PM

To "Kinetic Management Team"

Thank you for your quick response. That's a nice thing to see nowdays.

A question please, how many times (approximately ) can your product be reloaded?

I presume the 9 has a shorter life than the .38, is that correct?

Are there any outside sources of your bullets or molds to cast bullets (Pb or Cu)?

I can definitely see a use for this while introducing newbies to shooting. .22 only goes so far and with recent supply difficulties in getting .38 wadcutters or .22 having another option would be nice. ( I like taking newbies to the range. :-) )

Again thank you for your quick response

May 7, 2015, 03:26 PM	#1
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	Kinetic Munitions I did a quick search for information about Kinetic Munitions. I found a thread but not with the information I'm seeking. A friend told me of this company and some special ammunition they make. The entire case is polymer. For reloading, there is no re-sizing and there are no reloading tools required except for removing the spent primer and a hand tool for seating a new primer. You pour a specific amount of selected powder to a fill line in the case then seat the bullet by hand. Comments? I love big oil.

May 7, 2015, 04:43 PM	#3
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	cool, I may have to try that out since my dad lives in "john's creek"(Duluth). 13.50 for a box of loaded 9mm, not bad. only issue I have is the bullets look proprietary, but if their prices are good, we'll see.... watching the videos, looks like these guys have some real money to play with. I hope none is totally invested in this concept, interesting as it may be... took awhile to find it, 4.75c for 50 bullets. not bad __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed Last edited by skizzums; May 7, 2015 at 04:53 PM.

May 7, 2015, 06:23 PM	#6
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	mmmmmmmm I think I will just stick with my old fashion ammo for now. I dont like being a beta tester. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

May 9, 2015, 10:24 AM	#9
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	It bugs the crap out of me when companies like Kinetic make obviously biased videos to show how their ammo is better by making non-like comparisons. Here they found the slowest, heavy, soft lead .38 spl round and fired it in such a manner to allow the steel plate and wood to basically "catch" the round. Then they fired the much lighter, faster, solid copper round at a part of the barrier that would not flex. It penetrated, which is no surprise. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

May 10, 2015, 07:23 AM	#10
Kinetic Munitions Junior Member Join Date: May 9, 2015 Posts: 1	Questions? Thanks to everyone for your interest in our products and your posts. We truly believe Kinetic Ammo will be evolutionary for the industry and offer customers with a superior cost/benefit option. Here are a couple of quick responses to the questions and comment - there is much more information on our website on Facebook pages. Our estimated prices are for boxes not each. Final prices will be published when we complete our crowdfunding. "Reloading a box for less than half of our estimated price." Our cases can be reloaded multiple times and when reloaded will be significantly more economical lowering your total spend. Or bullets are solid copper and we believe will outperform anything even close to the price range The vast majority of shooters cannot reload 6-700 an hour. If your current reloading process works for you that is great but many do not want to spend the time and effort when there is a more economical and easier process. "Sticking with the current trend" - We understand no everyone will be an early adopter of our system but hope you will give us a try sometime in the future. My 21 inch standard definition television served me well for many years but I prefer a much larger high definition screen today. Our comparison video - Please see our follow up video posted on Thursday. We address your exact comment and many others that we have received. We are a company that is being built for the customer and will answer all relevant questions the best we can. As a new company we have to finds ways to introduce our products and videos are the most effective channel. Thanks Kinetic Management Team

May 7, 2015, 04:12 PM	#2
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	Actually, only part of the case is polymer. Still, I checked it out and it I like the concept. I sure hope the "$15" quoted amount, however, isn't for one cartridge! If so, then I'm not getting the advantage or the concept???

May 7, 2015, 05:58 PM	#4
lamarw Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2010 Location: Lake Martin, AL Posts: 3,311	Oh my goodness, it is so easy to reload 9mm for less than one half the mentioned price of $13.50. My reloading equipment has paid for itself years ago. I can sell it used anytime for more than I paid for it. Good investment all the way around.

May 7, 2015, 06:02 PM	#5
Ruger480 Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2013 Location: Central Iowa Posts: 720	this is the link in case anybody else would like to see it.

May 7, 2015, 11:09 PM	#7
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	Smee78, I agree with you about sticking with the current trend. I say current, heck, it has been around for along long time. Wow! Your comment about the cow is priceless and dead nuts true. Thanks.

May 8, 2015, 09:18 PM	#8
longspurr Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2002 Location: On the western shore Posts: 182	I don't know if this is the same company – or a new one that bought out an earlier company, but this same ammo was introduces 10+ years ago. It never caught on and here we are in 2015 thinking this is a new item. I know I am going to try ordering some ammo just to have it as a collectors item. If it stays around then great, if not then I have a novelty to show folks. My take on it. For those that already have a reloader set up, we are not interested. For those that would like to try it – an easy and cheap introduction. For those that would like to introduce a new shooter with a reduced load – easy to do that.

May 10, 2015, 08:00 AM	#11
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,307	crowdfunding...that should tell you something. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

May 11, 2015, 07:47 AM	#13
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I appreciated reading Kinetic Munitions' response - thanks for addressing some of our questions here! Another successful ammunition company (albeit an alternative form of ammunition) is a good thing.

May 13, 2015, 11:11 PM	#14
NukemJim Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2002 Posts: 287	To "Kinetic Management Team" Thank you for your quick response. That's a nice thing to see nowdays. A question please, how many times (approximately ) can your product be reloaded? I presume the 9 has a shorter life than the .38, is that correct? Are there any outside sources of your bullets or molds to cast bullets (Pb or Cu)? I can definitely see a use for this while introducing newbies to shooting. .22 only goes so far and with recent supply difficulties in getting .38 wadcutters or .22 having another option would be nice. ( I like taking newbies to the range. :-) ) Again thank you for your quick response __________________ "Half of being smart is knowing what you are dumb at" "Guns shoot bullets. People shoot people."