night vision, military, law enforcement

eyeball · July 8, 2001, 09:26 AM

how come night vision companies don't sell civilians the same night vision devices that they sell law enforcement or the military? anybody know?

Derek Zeanah · July 8, 2001, 10:13 AM

Don't they?

I've been out of the military for a few years, but I was pretty impressed by the PVS7B's we got to play with. Those seem readily available on the civilian market (if excessively expensive).

Different · July 8, 2001, 10:15 AM

I don't know the answer to your question but you can buy second generation military NV scopes like the AN/PVS-4. Also, the civilian third generation NV stuff I have looked through works very well IMHO.

eyeball · July 8, 2001, 08:14 PM

do you know where I could get these latter generation night scopes at?

ktmhk53 · July 8, 2001, 09:30 PM

http://www.ittnightvision.com/

eyeball · July 9, 2001, 08:24 AM

wow.

thanks for the link ktmhk53

ktmhk53 · July 9, 2001, 05:19 PM

http://www.x20.org/

ktmhk53 · July 9, 2001, 05:21 PM

http://www.auroratactical.com/

eyeball · July 10, 2001, 08:41 AM

i've got to get me a thermal imaging camera

RMc · July 14, 2001, 06:46 PM

Like anything else, it's just a matter of having the right amount of money.

Justin Moore · July 14, 2001, 07:01 PM

Does anyone sell the AN/PVS-1?

RMc · July 18, 2001, 04:26 AM

Justin,

If that is a GEN0 or I (I've never seen one), I don't believe ITT, Litton, or any of the other U.S NV manufacturers make GENI, never mind GEN0. With some looking you may be able to find one used, but GEN0/I isn't known for long tube life, so the chances of finding one in working condition is probably not too great.

If anyone has a link to vintage NV please post it. I'd certainly be interested.

Too bad U.S manufacturers no longer make GENI. My father used U.S. GENI? in Vietnam (Recon) and remembers it being much better than the Russian monocular I have now. We were wondering if it was actually GENII since he doesn't recall the "coke bottle" distortion in those scopes. Does anyone know when GenII came out? (My dad was there in 1969 and '70.)

ktmhk53 · July 18, 2001, 05:00 AM

Greetings,

Look at this forum for answers to all your night vision questions,

http://www.x20.org/nvforum_toc.htm#0000006d

conservtv · May 6, 2005, 01:28 PM

Anyone familiar with the Meade/Weaver digital night vision scope/monocular? They claim it's new technology resulting in superior performance at reasonable prices. Sounds great but haven't seen one yet.

July 8, 2001, 09:26 AM	#1
eyeball Junior member Join Date: June 7, 2001 Posts: 84	night vision, military, law enforcement how come night vision companies don't sell civilians the same night vision devices that they sell law enforcement or the military? anybody know?

July 8, 2001, 10:13 AM	#2
Derek Zeanah Senior Member Join Date: March 30, 2000 Location: South GA Posts: 267	Don't they? I've been out of the military for a few years, but I was pretty impressed by the PVS7B's we got to play with. Those seem readily available on the civilian market (if excessively expensive). __________________ -- Derek "An elective despotism was not the government we fought for." --Thomas Jefferson

July 14, 2001, 06:46 PM	#10
RMc Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2000 Location: McKinleyville, CA, USA Posts: 143	Like anything else, it's just a matter of having the right amount of money. __________________ It is not reasonable to reason with unreasonable people.

July 14, 2001, 07:01 PM	#11
Justin Moore Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2000 Location: Right Here Posts: 854	Does anyone sell the AN/PVS-1? __________________ Democracy: A government of the masses, authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression; results in mobocracy; attitude toward property is communistic negating property rights; attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences; its result is dem-o-gogism, license, agitation, discontent and anarchy. Republic: Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best suited to represent them. Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights and a sensible economic procedure. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles that establish evidence with a strict regard for consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass, it avoids the dangerous extremes of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice contentment and progress, is a standard for government around the world.

July 18, 2001, 04:26 AM	#12
RMc Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2000 Location: McKinleyville, CA, USA Posts: 143	Justin, If that is a GEN0 or I (I've never seen one), I don't believe ITT, Litton, or any of the other U.S NV manufacturers make GENI, never mind GEN0. With some looking you may be able to find one used, but GEN0/I isn't known for long tube life, so the chances of finding one in working condition is probably not too great. If anyone has a link to vintage NV please post it. I'd certainly be interested. Too bad U.S manufacturers no longer make GENI. My father used U.S. GENI? in Vietnam (Recon) and remembers it being much better than the Russian monocular I have now. We were wondering if it was actually GENII since he doesn't recall the "coke bottle" distortion in those scopes. Does anyone know when GenII came out? (My dad was there in 1969 and '70.) __________________ It is not reasonable to reason with unreasonable people.

July 8, 2001, 10:15 AM	#3
Different Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2000 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Posts: 165	I don't know the answer to your question but you can buy second generation military NV scopes like the AN/PVS-4. Also, the civilian third generation NV stuff I have looked through works very well IMHO.

July 8, 2001, 08:14 PM	#4
eyeball Junior member Join Date: June 7, 2001 Posts: 84	do you know where I could get these latter generation night scopes at?

July 8, 2001, 09:30 PM	#5
ktmhk53 Member Join Date: July 4, 2001 Posts: 76	http://www.ittnightvision.com/

July 9, 2001, 08:24 AM	#6
eyeball Junior member Join Date: June 7, 2001 Posts: 84	wow. thanks for the link ktmhk53

July 9, 2001, 05:19 PM	#7
ktmhk53 Member Join Date: July 4, 2001 Posts: 76	http://www.x20.org/

July 9, 2001, 05:21 PM	#8
ktmhk53 Member Join Date: July 4, 2001 Posts: 76	http://www.auroratactical.com/

July 10, 2001, 08:41 AM	#9
eyeball Junior member Join Date: June 7, 2001 Posts: 84	i've got to get me a thermal imaging camera

July 18, 2001, 05:00 AM	#13
ktmhk53 Member Join Date: July 4, 2001 Posts: 76	Greetings, Look at this forum for answers to all your night vision questions, http://www.x20.org/nvforum_toc.htm#0000006d

May 6, 2005, 01:28 PM	#14
conservtv Junior Member Join Date: January 26, 2005 Posts: 1	Meade/ Weaver digital night vision Anyone familiar with the Meade/Weaver digital night vision scope/monocular? They claim it's new technology resulting in superior performance at reasonable prices. Sounds great but haven't seen one yet.