Taurus® Acquires Heritage Manufacturing

9mm · May 11, 2012, 05:21 PM

http://www.taurususa.com/news-detail.cfm?newsID=41

Oh? so now Taurus will make those $180 revolvers I see at gun shows, Heritage SAA.

How do you guys like Heritage ?

Master Blaster 2 · May 11, 2012, 06:01 PM

Probably move the USA gun maker out of here to Brazil.

Newton24b · May 11, 2012, 09:21 PM

According to whats available Heritage is still going to be an independent company, and operate as it always has. However it should mean it will acquire technology from taurus.

much like when taurus and smith and wesson were subsidiaries of the same parent company.

what it most likely means, dont expect the heritage saa 45 colt /.410 revolver any time soon.

newfrontier45 · May 12, 2012, 07:36 AM

Couldn't get any worse, might even improve.

Jim March · May 14, 2012, 07:10 PM

I have a theory. This is really about the Heritage contract and relationship with Pietta.

Heritage is the only source of a Pietta centerfire SAA-ish gun with a transfer bar safety. The "Heritage Big Bore" is a Pietta made in Italy that is finished stateside. It is therefore functionally the same gun as the Gaucho except without the Gaucho's horrific QC issues that doomed it.

Taurus can take over the contract, bring Pietta parts stateside to either the Taurus plant in Miami or the existing Heritage plant and sell it as the "Gaucho II" or if they're smart, pick a new name entirely. The gun would have nothing to do with Brazil...and might even give the Ruger NewVaq a run for the money in terms of price/performance/looks.

Taurus could do this while leaving the Heritage small-bore gun line alone...or put another way, leave Heritage to deal with what they do best.

Pietta should be all over this because they'll get access to the Taurus marketing team. Pietta's QC is actually a bit better than most Ubertis by all accounts, but they don't have much of a marketing team and zero stateside presence. Despite that they're now selling some models through Cimarron on top of the existing contract with import house EMF. But neither of those cover transfer-bar based guns.

I'm assuming that Heritage had some sort of exclusive deal that Taurus has now bought rights to...good bet, as otherwise EMF (Pietta's biggest US importer) would have long since had transfer-bar variants from Pietta.

With luck we'll see more variants of the Pietta transfer-bar guns, such as Thunderer-grip models and Pietta's answer to the Ruger SBH/Bisley grip frames known as the "Alchemista" (after Pietta CEO's European SASS handle - the guy has big hands).

EdInk · May 14, 2012, 10:44 PM

Leave it to Jim March to say something intelligent and logical.

9mm · May 15, 2012, 07:36 PM

Taurus has to be doing good to buy another company up.

Doyle · May 15, 2012, 07:39 PM

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Couldn't get any worse, might even improve.

Not with Taurus's reputation for poor quality.

Jim March · May 15, 2012, 07:49 PM

Taurus does indeed have QC issues but they're linked to the Brazil plants.

A Pietta-Taurus with no Brazilian involvement might not suck at all.

newfrontier45 · May 16, 2012, 07:00 AM

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Not with Taurus's reputation for poor quality.

Yes but we're talking about Heritage. They have but one direction to go.....up.

aarondhgraham · May 18, 2012, 10:29 AM

Click here please,,,

I loved reading the "puff text",,,
It was truly awe-inspiring.

But seriously,,,
Heritage must be selling quite a few guns,,,
To make Taurus want to buy the entire company.

I've fired and handled Heritage .22 revolvers,,,
They really aren't that bad a handgun,,,
The safety seems kind of silly.

Just a week or so ago,,
One of the female servers at my watering hole,,,
Received a Heritage revolver as a graduation present from her dad.

It's certainly cute enough,,,
4.75" barrel with pink laminate grips,,,
I'm going to make her a "Dale Evans" gunbelt for it.

We are supposed to go out shooting real soon,,,
If it's a turkey I can get both my Taurus and Heritage bashing in on one post.

But I'll bet the little gun does just fine.

Aarond

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huntinaz · May 18, 2012, 11:34 AM

I guess they're really trying to corner the market of firearms that may or may not work

bigghoss · May 18, 2012, 11:47 AM

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Yes but we're talking about Heritage. They have but one direction to go.....up.

My Heritage is 100 times better than my Taurus was.

newfrontier45 · May 18, 2012, 12:39 PM

I find them equally unappealing and for the same reason. Actually, I'd rather have a Taurus.

newfrontier45 · May 18, 2012, 12:41 PM

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They really aren't that bad a handgun,,,

That's a minority opinion. Their owners like `em but everybody smart enough not to buy one.....doesn't.

Doyle · May 18, 2012, 12:59 PM

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Actually, I'd rather have a Taurus.

I'd rather had a slingshot and some rocks - the slingshot would come with less warranty issues and it would spend less time in the shop

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Walklightly · May 18, 2012, 04:05 PM

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Not with Taurus's reputation for poor quality.

Post #8

I'm sure you'll never read this, but, can you back up your simple stated word's?

It's just to easy just to say something and so arrogantly carry on with your life.

"I said it with the rest of the sheep, there for it's true."

I think next time you make such a huge statement against a company that is way more successful than you are, or ever well be.

BACK UP YOUR WORD's.

FYI, I don't like either companies, but I don't bash them on the Internet for sake of sounding smart.

There's old wisdom behind that, but that's for you, and others to figure it out.

skidder · May 18, 2012, 05:28 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking about getting one for my kid to shoot. That will not happen now. My experience with Taurus was frustrating and still fresh in my mind.

Newton24b · May 18, 2012, 08:41 PM

their is NOTHING wrong with heritage. they are a good gun.

all i can say is if you want to teach someone to shoot, get a heritage with the longest barrel possible.

the only two issues youll have are this,

1. making sure you dont shoot it to fast. for some reason they are MADE for speed shooting.

2. good targets, a good supply of them.

Venom1956 · May 19, 2012, 12:51 AM

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Taurus®, the world's foremost manufacturer of firearms

I've found a new sig!

This one is a close second

Quote:

outstanding workmanship, accuracy, quality and value

FrankenMauser · May 19, 2012, 01:49 AM

I never expected to say these words, but....
This is a rare case where Taurus quality exceeds that of the company they just purchased.

It must be snowing in purgatory...

v1rot8 · May 19, 2012, 10:15 AM

Have had no issues with my Heritage 22 revolver. Cannot say the same for my two Taurus pistols.

22-rimfire · May 19, 2012, 11:41 AM

Not a bad fit overall. I hope Taurus improves the Heritage product.

newfrontier45 · May 19, 2012, 12:14 PM

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their is NOTHING wrong with heritage.

Except that the barrel is pressed into the frame and held in place with glue.

Except that the receivers and grip frames are made of pot metal.

Except that the steel they use is the lowest grade used anywhere in firearms' manufacture.

Except that the finishes are sprayed on.

Except that the grips are atrocious and cheap.

Except that the ejector button is plastic and prone to breakage.

Except that they have a hideous and unnecessary thumb safety.

Except that they are notorious for rough actions and gritty triggers.

Except that a used Ruger, which is built the same way and with the same materials as its centerfire brethren is only slightly more expensive.

Other than that they are fine.

zippy13 · May 19, 2012, 02:56 PM

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Taurus®, the world's foremost manufacturer of firearms

I've found a new sig!

Venom1956, I found that claim curious, too. Perhaps there's a different Taurus making guns (maybe in a parallel universe) that we're not familiar with.

May 11, 2012, 05:21 PM	#1
9mm Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2011 Location: Land of the Free Posts: 2,834	Taurus® Acquires Heritage Manufacturing http://www.taurususa.com/news-detail.cfm?newsID=41 Oh? so now Taurus will make those $180 revolvers I see at gun shows, Heritage SAA. How do you guys like Heritage ?

May 14, 2012, 07:10 PM	#5
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 7,417	I have a theory. This is really about the Heritage contract and relationship with Pietta. Heritage is the only source of a Pietta centerfire SAA-ish gun with a transfer bar safety. The "Heritage Big Bore" is a Pietta made in Italy that is finished stateside. It is therefore functionally the same gun as the Gaucho except without the Gaucho's horrific QC issues that doomed it. Taurus can take over the contract, bring Pietta parts stateside to either the Taurus plant in Miami or the existing Heritage plant and sell it as the "Gaucho II" or if they're smart, pick a new name entirely. The gun would have nothing to do with Brazil...and might even give the Ruger NewVaq a run for the money in terms of price/performance/looks. Taurus could do this while leaving the Heritage small-bore gun line alone...or put another way, leave Heritage to deal with what they do best. Pietta should be all over this because they'll get access to the Taurus marketing team. Pietta's QC is actually a bit better than most Ubertis by all accounts, but they don't have much of a marketing team and zero stateside presence. Despite that they're now selling some models through Cimarron on top of the existing contract with import house EMF. But neither of those cover transfer-bar based guns. I'm assuming that Heritage had some sort of exclusive deal that Taurus has now bought rights to...good bet, as otherwise EMF (Pietta's biggest US importer) would have long since had transfer-bar variants from Pietta. With luck we'll see more variants of the Pietta transfer-bar guns, such as Thunderer-grip models and Pietta's answer to the Ruger SBH/Bisley grip frames known as the "Alchemista" (after Pietta CEO's European SASS handle - the guy has big hands). __________________ Jim March

May 14, 2012, 10:44 PM	#6
EdInk Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2009 Posts: 3,968	Leave it to Jim March to say something intelligent and logical. __________________ Sic Semper Tyrannis

May 15, 2012, 07:49 PM	#9
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 7,417	Taurus does indeed have QC issues but they're linked to the Brazil plants. A Pietta-Taurus with no Brazilian involvement might not suck at all. __________________ Jim March

May 18, 2012, 10:29 AM	#11
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Looks like Taurus purchased Heritage,,, Click here please,,, I loved reading the "puff text",,, It was truly awe-inspiring. But seriously,,, Heritage must be selling quite a few guns,,, To make Taurus want to buy the entire company. I've fired and handled Heritage .22 revolvers,,, They really aren't that bad a handgun,,, The safety seems kind of silly. Just a week or so ago,, One of the female servers at my watering hole,,, Received a Heritage revolver as a graduation present from her dad. It's certainly cute enough,,, 4.75" barrel with pink laminate grips,,, I'm going to make her a "Dale Evans" gunbelt for it. We are supposed to go out shooting real soon,,, If it's a turkey I can get both my Taurus and Heritage bashing in on one post. But I'll bet the little gun does just fine. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

May 11, 2012, 06:01 PM	#2
Master Blaster 2 Junior member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Posts: 895	Probably move the USA gun maker out of here to Brazil.

May 11, 2012, 09:21 PM	#3
Newton24b Junior member Join Date: February 10, 2009 Posts: 974	According to whats available Heritage is still going to be an independent company, and operate as it always has. However it should mean it will acquire technology from taurus. much like when taurus and smith and wesson were subsidiaries of the same parent company. what it most likely means, dont expect the heritage saa 45 colt /.410 revolver any time soon.

May 12, 2012, 07:36 AM	#4
newfrontier45 Junior member Join Date: February 23, 2012 Posts: 921	Couldn't get any worse, might even improve.

May 15, 2012, 07:36 PM	#7
9mm Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2011 Location: Land of the Free Posts: 2,834	Taurus has to be doing good to buy another company up.

May 18, 2012, 11:34 AM	#12
huntinaz Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2010 Location: az Posts: 1,332	I guess they're really trying to corner the market of firearms that may or may not work __________________ "When there’s lead in the air, there’s hope in the heart”- Hunter’s Proverb "Feed me, or feed me to something. I just want to be part of the food chain." -Al Bundy

May 18, 2012, 12:39 PM	#14
newfrontier45 Junior member Join Date: February 23, 2012 Posts: 921	I find them equally unappealing and for the same reason. Actually, I'd rather have a Taurus.

May 18, 2012, 05:28 PM	#18
skidder Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 640	Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking about getting one for my kid to shoot. That will not happen now. My experience with Taurus was frustrating and still fresh in my mind. __________________ Gun permit?? A bread crumb tossed to a sleeping society awoken by the sound of complacency. "They are for your own good", and "you will understand when you see all the lives they save". Yes master, what else will you toss me from your bag of infringements?? Do you want me to roll over and play dead? I do that very well. --skidder

May 18, 2012, 08:41 PM	#19
Newton24b Junior member Join Date: February 10, 2009 Posts: 974	their is NOTHING wrong with heritage. they are a good gun. all i can say is if you want to teach someone to shoot, get a heritage with the longest barrel possible. the only two issues youll have are this, 1. making sure you dont shoot it to fast. for some reason they are MADE for speed shooting. 2. good targets, a good supply of them.

May 19, 2012, 01:49 AM	#21
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	I never expected to say these words, but.... This is a rare case where Taurus quality exceeds that of the company they just purchased. It must be snowing in purgatory... __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

May 19, 2012, 10:15 AM	#22
v1rot8 Junior Member Join Date: October 2, 2011 Posts: 3	Heritage Have had no issues with my Heritage 22 revolver. Cannot say the same for my two Taurus pistols.

May 19, 2012, 11:41 AM	#23
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	Not a bad fit overall. I hope Taurus improves the Heritage product.