question about the 22 lr

herroprease · January 17, 2010, 11:22 PM

i just wanted to know if you think a 22 lr could take down a hog...the hog isn't that big. maybe 120 lbs. how close do you think i may need to get or is there a good brand of ammo that may help out a little more. feedback much appreciated.

griz · January 17, 2010, 11:35 PM

Never hunted hogs myself but that sounds a bit light.

Gary L. Griffiths · January 17, 2010, 11:37 PM

Shot Placement, Shot Placement, Shot Placement!

Hit a hog between the eyes with a .22 short and he'll drop dead instantly.

My dad killed a lame 2000+ pound bull with a single .22 LR between the eyes. Just dropped and rolled over.

If you're talking about hunting, though, where precise shot placement isn't always possible, you might want to consider something a bit bigger.

Jim Watson · January 17, 2010, 11:45 PM

One of our club members, whose acreage is overrun by feral hogs, says the best killer is a plain old .30-30. I don't understand why, but he says it puts them down better than higher powered rifles.

herroprease · January 17, 2010, 11:56 PM

yeah the 30-30 is a very good gun when it comes to hogs.the only reason why i'm asking about the 22lr is because the hogs are on my mother in laws land and she doesn't want anything too loud because she runs a daycare in her house and she doesn't want the children getting scared.is there another round that isn't too loud that has a bit more power then a 22 lr?

Tucker 1371 · January 17, 2010, 11:58 PM

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Hit a hog between the eyes with a .22 short and he'll drop dead instantly.

Not so sure... watch this (caution, expletives). .44 Mag bounces off of a hog's head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI0l29YGA-c

herroprease · January 18, 2010, 12:08 AM

when i was in alaska, a friend of mine got a moose and a black bear with his 223. he aimed in between the ear and the eye. he says that its just enough to hit the brain and anchor them down.(sounds crazy i know)

Buzzcook · January 18, 2010, 12:22 AM

Are you asking about hunting of slaughtering the pig?

Maser · January 18, 2010, 12:29 AM

Do you live in an NFA friendly state where suppressors are allowed?

herroprease · January 18, 2010, 01:01 AM

i'm talking about hunting...no supressors aren't allowed

dogtown tom · January 18, 2010, 01:53 AM

I have seen a domestic hog take a .22LR between the eyes from point blank range and survive. He survived until the second .22LR between the eyes three seconds later.

Hog Buster · January 18, 2010, 10:27 AM

I've killed more than a few with a 22LR. You just got to shoot 'em in the head, between the ears and eyes. Range for good kills is under 50 yards. Sometimes they drop like a rock and others they thrash around a bit and need a second shot. Another good small round is the 17HMR. Same shot placement, but it hits somewhat harder. The 17HMR will also kill them with a lung shot, but not right away. They just run off and die somewhere else.

watchale · January 18, 2010, 10:29 AM

.22 hornet isn't real loud.

hogdogs · January 18, 2010, 11:26 AM

If the powder charge singes the hair on top of the head, they drop DRT...
I wouldn't go poppin' them much further than point blank though... if for no other reason than you may not want them slipping off and dieing where the stank will run your momma out of business.
Brent

2damnold4this · January 18, 2010, 12:23 PM

I killed a 180lb pig at about thirty yards with a behind the ear shot with a .22lr 40 grain lead round nose bullet. I was lucky the pig was standing still and at just the right angle.

GeauxTide · January 18, 2010, 12:28 PM

A 22LR is not the proper tool. Don't hunt them around nap time.

herroprease · January 18, 2010, 01:45 PM

i also have a 357 leveraction...do you think if i just load it with 38 spl, it will do the trick?

Uncle Ben · January 18, 2010, 02:25 PM

First, get yourself a freezer and a good butcher (if you don't already have one)!

What about +P in .38 in your lever gun?

Seems like the .22lr "could" work, but only under the best conditions...meaning fairly close distance, proper angle, a very steady shot, and the hog standing still for long enough. Doesn't seem like enough power to me, in order for you to take consistent,humane kills.

Buzzcook · January 18, 2010, 04:06 PM

If you're hunting I'd say the .22 is not the right tool. Used shotguns are cheap and standard slugs or 00 shot aren't real expensive.

2damnold4this · January 18, 2010, 06:20 PM

If you are hunting pigs, the .22lr wouldn't be a good first choice. The pig I killed with a .22lr was during a squirrel hunt and was only 30 yards away.

banditt007 · January 18, 2010, 06:33 PM

If i was you i'd wait for a day when there are no kids around, then use that .357 with some nice solids. Or something with more power than that. .22lr CAN work, but only under ideal conditions and even then you have to take into account that it will want to glance off the skull, so you want to be very much at a 90 degree angle. Perhaps you could trap some, and then you can easily walk up with a subsonic .22lr solid and it'll be quiet and allow you to get close/ideal shot. Though they are pests, do the humane thing and use a gun that gives you some leeway with shot placement IMO

phil mcwilliam · January 19, 2010, 05:14 AM

If you use your 22 for pig hunting you will be dissapointed with the results. While a 22 will drop piglets successfully ,it takes a good marksman & a lot of luck to drop even medium sized pigs with a 22 at 50 yards when hunting.
If you have aggressive large boars in the area you will be hunting I would not recommend using a 22.
I have shot several hundred pigs in over 30 years of hunting & like most, started out hunting with a 22.
Having done most of my hunting over the last 25 years with centrefire rifles, a year ago I decided to buy a new 22 CZ & topped it off with a Leupold 2-7x32 scope-this rifle was going to be a keeper. I mainly bought this rifle for rabbits & foxes, but then set myself a challenge & decided to try & improve my stalking by trying to take goats & pigs.
While I have taken 4 feral goats & 2 small pigs(+ a dozen piglets), not to mention many rabbits & foxes with this new "toy", I realised the limitations of a 22 after an encounter with a mob of 15+ medium to large pigs. This brought back memories of why as a youngster I always wanted a more powerfull rifle than a 22.
Go use your 357 & have some fun outside of daycare hours.

Doyle · January 19, 2010, 09:35 AM

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Hit a hog between the eyes with a .22 short and he'll drop dead instantly.

That's a good way to get yourself hurt. A hogs forehead is hard. The soft spot is just behind the lower part of the ear.

treg · January 19, 2010, 09:50 PM

I feel sorry for those kids.

Doodlebugger45 · January 20, 2010, 01:27 AM

If I'm going for a head shot, I try to put it just behind and a bit below the earhole. But it takes a good steady rest and the animal has to hold still as well. Once in awhile it comes up deer hunting when they are close. I'm not sure it would come up very often shooting at hogs. All things considered, you might be better off with a sledge hammer.

January 17, 2010, 11:22 PM	#1
herroprease Member Join Date: January 11, 2010 Posts: 36	question about the 22 lr i just wanted to know if you think a 22 lr could take down a hog...the hog isn't that big. maybe 120 lbs. how close do you think i may need to get or is there a good brand of ammo that may help out a little more. feedback much appreciated.

January 17, 2010, 11:37 PM	#3
Gary L. Griffiths Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: AZ, WA Posts: 1,466	Shot Placement, Shot Placement, Shot Placement! Hit a hog between the eyes with a .22 short and he'll drop dead instantly. My dad killed a lame 2000+ pound bull with a single .22 LR between the eyes. Just dropped and rolled over. If you're talking about hunting, though, where precise shot placement isn't always possible, you might want to consider something a bit bigger. __________________ Violence is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and valorous feeling which believes that nothing is worth violence is much worse. Those who have nothing for which they are willing to fight; nothing they care about more than their own craven apathy; are miserable creatures who have no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the valor of those better than themselves. Gary L. Griffiths (Paraphrasing John Stuart Mill)

January 18, 2010, 01:53 AM	#11
dogtown tom Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2006 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 3,087	I have seen a domestic hog take a .22LR between the eyes from point blank range and survive. He survived until the second .22LR between the eyes three seconds later. __________________ Need a FFL in Dallas/Plano/Allen/Frisco/McKinney ? Just EMAIL me. $20 transfers ($10 for CHL, active military,police,fire or schoolteachers) Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

January 18, 2010, 10:27 AM	#12
Hog Buster Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2009 Location: Pointe Coupee, Louisana Posts: 772	I've killed more than a few with a 22LR. You just got to shoot 'em in the head, between the ears and eyes. Range for good kills is under 50 yards. Sometimes they drop like a rock and others they thrash around a bit and need a second shot. Another good small round is the 17HMR. Same shot placement, but it hits somewhat harder. The 17HMR will also kill them with a lung shot, but not right away. They just run off and die somewhere else. __________________ Those who beat their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.-Thomas Jefferson

January 18, 2010, 10:29 AM	#13
watchale Member Join Date: June 29, 2009 Location: TX Posts: 65	.22 hornet isn't real loud. __________________ Keep it out of the dirt.

January 17, 2010, 11:35 PM	#2
griz Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2000 Location: Middle Peninsula, VA Posts: 1,588	Never hunted hogs myself but that sounds a bit light.

January 17, 2010, 11:45 PM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,542	One of our club members, whose acreage is overrun by feral hogs, says the best killer is a plain old .30-30. I don't understand why, but he says it puts them down better than higher powered rifles.

January 17, 2010, 11:56 PM	#5
herroprease Member Join Date: January 11, 2010 Posts: 36	yeah the 30-30 is a very good gun when it comes to hogs.the only reason why i'm asking about the 22lr is because the hogs are on my mother in laws land and she doesn't want anything too loud because she runs a daycare in her house and she doesn't want the children getting scared.is there another round that isn't too loud that has a bit more power then a 22 lr?

January 18, 2010, 12:08 AM	#7
herroprease Member Join Date: January 11, 2010 Posts: 36	when i was in alaska, a friend of mine got a moose and a black bear with his 223. he aimed in between the ear and the eye. he says that its just enough to hit the brain and anchor them down.(sounds crazy i know)

January 18, 2010, 12:22 AM	#8
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Are you asking about hunting of slaughtering the pig?

January 18, 2010, 12:29 AM	#9
Maser Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2006 Location: Mysterious Cities of Gold Posts: 920	Do you live in an NFA friendly state where suppressors are allowed?

January 18, 2010, 01:01 AM	#10
herroprease Member Join Date: January 11, 2010 Posts: 36	i'm talking about hunting...no supressors aren't allowed

January 18, 2010, 11:26 AM	#14
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	If the powder charge singes the hair on top of the head, they drop DRT... I wouldn't go poppin' them much further than point blank though... if for no other reason than you may not want them slipping off and dieing where the stank will run your momma out of business. Brent

January 18, 2010, 12:23 PM	#15
2damnold4this Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2009 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 2,526	I killed a 180lb pig at about thirty yards with a behind the ear shot with a .22lr 40 grain lead round nose bullet. I was lucky the pig was standing still and at just the right angle.

January 18, 2010, 12:28 PM	#16
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,424	A 22LR is not the proper tool. Don't hunt them around nap time.

January 18, 2010, 01:45 PM	#17
herroprease Member Join Date: January 11, 2010 Posts: 36	i also have a 357 leveraction...do you think if i just load it with 38 spl, it will do the trick?

January 18, 2010, 02:25 PM	#18
Uncle Ben Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 400	First, get yourself a freezer and a good butcher (if you don't already have one)! What about +P in .38 in your lever gun? Seems like the .22lr "could" work, but only under the best conditions...meaning fairly close distance, proper angle, a very steady shot, and the hog standing still for long enough. Doesn't seem like enough power to me, in order for you to take consistent,humane kills.

January 18, 2010, 04:06 PM	#19
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	If you're hunting I'd say the .22 is not the right tool. Used shotguns are cheap and standard slugs or 00 shot aren't real expensive.

January 18, 2010, 06:20 PM	#20
2damnold4this Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2009 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 2,526	If you are hunting pigs, the .22lr wouldn't be a good first choice. The pig I killed with a .22lr was during a squirrel hunt and was only 30 yards away.

January 18, 2010, 06:33 PM	#21
banditt007 Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2006 Posts: 694	If i was you i'd wait for a day when there are no kids around, then use that .357 with some nice solids. Or something with more power than that. .22lr CAN work, but only under ideal conditions and even then you have to take into account that it will want to glance off the skull, so you want to be very much at a 90 degree angle. Perhaps you could trap some, and then you can easily walk up with a subsonic .22lr solid and it'll be quiet and allow you to get close/ideal shot. Though they are pests, do the humane thing and use a gun that gives you some leeway with shot placement IMO

January 19, 2010, 05:14 AM	#22
phil mcwilliam Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2007 Posts: 573	If you use your 22 for pig hunting you will be dissapointed with the results. While a 22 will drop piglets successfully ,it takes a good marksman & a lot of luck to drop even medium sized pigs with a 22 at 50 yards when hunting. If you have aggressive large boars in the area you will be hunting I would not recommend using a 22. I have shot several hundred pigs in over 30 years of hunting & like most, started out hunting with a 22. Having done most of my hunting over the last 25 years with centrefire rifles, a year ago I decided to buy a new 22 CZ & topped it off with a Leupold 2-7x32 scope-this rifle was going to be a keeper. I mainly bought this rifle for rabbits & foxes, but then set myself a challenge & decided to try & improve my stalking by trying to take goats & pigs. While I have taken 4 feral goats & 2 small pigs(+ a dozen piglets), not to mention many rabbits & foxes with this new "toy", I realised the limitations of a 22 after an encounter with a mob of 15+ medium to large pigs. This brought back memories of why as a youngster I always wanted a more powerfull rifle than a 22. Go use your 357 & have some fun outside of daycare hours.

January 19, 2010, 09:50 PM	#24
treg Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2006 Posts: 1,102	I feel sorry for those kids. __________________ .44 Special: For those who get it, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't, no explanation is possible.

January 20, 2010, 01:27 AM	#25
Doodlebugger45 Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2009 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,717	If I'm going for a head shot, I try to put it just behind and a bit below the earhole. But it takes a good steady rest and the animal has to hold still as well. Once in awhile it comes up deer hunting when they are close. I'm not sure it would come up very often shooting at hogs. All things considered, you might be better off with a sledge hammer.