reloading and the economy

smothron5 · August 31, 2014, 05:40 PM

hi, I only reload 22 hornet, 30-30, 30-06, 8mm mauser, and 7.62x39, and 7.7jap! and have always used imr powders but was wondering if there were other powders out there so I wouldn't have to buy so many? or is there an imr powder or 2 that will do the trick? thanks

g.willikers · August 31, 2014, 06:04 PM

Load with Black Powder and you will only need one.

smothron5 · August 31, 2014, 06:07 PM

heard of that but too dangerous lol I shoot with my daughter

kilimanjaro · August 31, 2014, 07:48 PM

I use H110 for the Hornet and H335 or 4895 for the others, ecept 7.7 jap, not reloading that one.

Palmetto-Pride · August 31, 2014, 07:52 PM

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Load with Black Powder and you will only need one.

Is that what you use?

SpringOWeiler · August 31, 2014, 09:31 PM

Another vote for IMR/H 4895. It's a top performer in all the calibers you reload except the 22 hornet. But, i bet you could work up a load with it that worked ok. Probably quite a bit slower than what 4198 or h110 could net you.

kilimanjaro · August 31, 2014, 10:08 PM

There is a load for .22 Hornet in 4895, for 45 grain bullets. Only load in the Lee manual.

Blindstitch · August 31, 2014, 10:40 PM

Can't you reload most of them with IMR 3031?

or Red Dot if you want to shoot cast bullets.

Sheikyourbootie · August 31, 2014, 10:46 PM

For 22 Hornet I use Lil Gun

For 30-30, 30-06, 223, 300WSM I use Varget I have no experience reliading for the 8mm or the 7.7Jap

RaySendero · September 1, 2014, 08:20 AM

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kilimanjaro wrote:
I use H110 for the Hornet and H335 or 4895 for the others, ecept 7.7 jap, not reloading that one.

I can add - H4895 is also a good reloading powder for the 7.7x58 Jap.

jmr40 · September 1, 2014, 08:34 AM

While there are some powders that will work in several cartridges it is always a compromise I'm not willing to make. One powder may be ideal for 30-06 and work in 30-30, but won't be ideal.

If you load for 5 different cartridges it doesn't cost any more to buy 5 cans of 5 different powders than 5 cans of the same powder. Either way you'll spend the same amount of money in the long run and get better results from all your guns by using powder that is best for each individual gun.

armoredman · September 1, 2014, 09:53 AM

My favorite for 7.62x39mm is Accurate Arms #1680. H4895 does very well, too and H335 is working out well. 8mm Mauser is an experiment right now, but IMR 3031 is a go-to powder for my cast loads.

smothron5 · September 8, 2014, 07:18 PM

ty all it did make me realize it would cost same for the powders I use now or just bunch of one lol

kilimanjaro · September 8, 2014, 08:19 PM

One powder for several cartridges means more bulk purchase, and thusly less per pound expense, unless you buy all powders in bulk.

Jim243 · September 8, 2014, 08:23 PM

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Is that what you use?

No he doesn't. He is pulling the OP's leg for asking about one powder. Unless you use an inline muzzle loader or musket or black powder ball and cap pistol, black powder is just too dangerous for modern rifles and pistols. (they are not made for it.)

Jim

Mobuck · September 10, 2014, 08:05 PM

I could probably get by with 6 powders(3 rifle and 3 pistol) but I don't have to.

NWPilgrim · September 11, 2014, 03:42 AM

IMR 4895 is a good all around powder for that group of cartridges. But 3031 for the Hornet and .30-30, and 4064 for the others would be my choice.

Beyond that you get into fine tuning for each caliber, such as 4350 for the .30-06.

Ritz · September 11, 2014, 06:55 PM

I got a deal on a few pounds of Hodgdon 4198. That seems to work just fine with all the calibers I care about. Mostly using it for Win 38-55, Win .308 and for my 5.56mm FMJ rounds for AR-15 usage.

amx4080 · September 13, 2014, 08:11 AM

smothron5: I share your quandary. My only solution so far has been to scour reloading manuals from several sources and match up powders for different calibers. The job is made harder with various bullet weights and styles.

For pistol & revolver cartridges, I can usually find something that works well using Unique (.45ACP, 9mm, .38 Special...). IMR 3031 works in a lot of calibers (.303 Brit, 7.62x54r... and sometimes 8x56r if I have the right style/weight bullet). As it was said above A1680 is great for 7.62x39.

While I try to keep the number of powders low, I still have some odd-balls that are only useful for one or two calibers. Calibers like 7.5 Swiss made me purchase another powder.

The real problem isn't the number of powders, but space to store everything!

smothron5 · September 14, 2014, 03:47 PM

ty all for the help I contacted imr and they are working on a list for me! thanks again

August 31, 2014, 06:04 PM	#2
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Load with Black Powder and you will only need one. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

September 8, 2014, 07:18 PM	#13
smothron5 Member Join Date: August 29, 2014 Posts: 49	single powders ty all it did make me realize it would cost same for the powders I use now or just bunch of one lol

September 13, 2014, 08:11 AM	#19
amx4080 Member Join Date: December 10, 2011 Posts: 67	smothron5: I share your quandary. My only solution so far has been to scour reloading manuals from several sources and match up powders for different calibers. The job is made harder with various bullet weights and styles. For pistol & revolver cartridges, I can usually find something that works well using Unique (.45ACP, 9mm, .38 Special...). IMR 3031 works in a lot of calibers (.303 Brit, 7.62x54r... and sometimes 8x56r if I have the right style/weight bullet). As it was said above A1680 is great for 7.62x39. While I try to keep the number of powders low, I still have some odd-balls that are only useful for one or two calibers. Calibers like 7.5 Swiss made me purchase another powder. The real problem isn't the number of powders, but space to store everything! __________________ The GunStockMarket

September 14, 2014, 03:47 PM	#20
smothron5 Member Join Date: August 29, 2014 Posts: 49	imr/hodgdon ty all for the help I contacted imr and they are working on a list for me! thanks again

August 31, 2014, 05:40 PM	#1
smothron5 Member Join Date: August 29, 2014 Posts: 49	reloading and the economy hi, I only reload 22 hornet, 30-30, 30-06, 8mm mauser, and 7.62x39, and 7.7jap! and have always used imr powders but was wondering if there were other powders out there so I wouldn't have to buy so many? or is there an imr powder or 2 that will do the trick? thanks Last edited by smothron5; August 31, 2014 at 06:05 PM.

August 31, 2014, 06:07 PM	#3
smothron5 Member Join Date: August 29, 2014 Posts: 49	heard of that but too dangerous lol I shoot with my daughter

August 31, 2014, 07:48 PM	#4
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	I use H110 for the Hornet and H335 or 4895 for the others, ecept 7.7 jap, not reloading that one.

August 31, 2014, 09:31 PM	#6
SpringOWeiler Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2014 Location: Washington (Dry Side) Posts: 116	Another vote for IMR/H 4895. It's a top performer in all the calibers you reload except the 22 hornet. But, i bet you could work up a load with it that worked ok. Probably quite a bit slower than what 4198 or h110 could net you.

August 31, 2014, 10:08 PM	#7
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	There is a load for .22 Hornet in 4895, for 45 grain bullets. Only load in the Lee manual.

August 31, 2014, 10:40 PM	#8
Blindstitch Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2013 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 2,693	Can't you reload most of them with IMR 3031? or Red Dot if you want to shoot cast bullets.

August 31, 2014, 10:46 PM	#9
Sheikyourbootie Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2010 Posts: 379	For 22 Hornet I use Lil Gun For 30-30, 30-06, 223, 300WSM I use Varget I have no experience reliading for the 8mm or the 7.7Jap

September 1, 2014, 08:34 AM	#11
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,808	While there are some powders that will work in several cartridges it is always a compromise I'm not willing to make. One powder may be ideal for 30-06 and work in 30-30, but won't be ideal. If you load for 5 different cartridges it doesn't cost any more to buy 5 cans of 5 different powders than 5 cans of the same powder. Either way you'll spend the same amount of money in the long run and get better results from all your guns by using powder that is best for each individual gun.

September 1, 2014, 09:53 AM	#12
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	My favorite for 7.62x39mm is Accurate Arms #1680. H4895 does very well, too and H335 is working out well. 8mm Mauser is an experiment right now, but IMR 3031 is a go-to powder for my cast loads.

September 8, 2014, 08:19 PM	#14
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	One powder for several cartridges means more bulk purchase, and thusly less per pound expense, unless you buy all powders in bulk.

September 10, 2014, 08:05 PM	#16
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	I could probably get by with 6 powders(3 rifle and 3 pistol) but I don't have to.

September 11, 2014, 03:42 AM	#17
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	IMR 4895 is a good all around powder for that group of cartridges. But 3031 for the Hornet and .30-30, and 4064 for the others would be my choice. Beyond that you get into fine tuning for each caliber, such as 4350 for the .30-06.

September 11, 2014, 06:55 PM	#18
Ritz Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 283	I got a deal on a few pounds of Hodgdon 4198. That seems to work just fine with all the calibers I care about. Mostly using it for Win 38-55, Win .308 and for my 5.56mm FMJ rounds for AR-15 usage.