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March 6, 2012, 07:23 PM | #1 |
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Nosler ballistic silvertip bullets
Iv heard a lot of differing opinions on just how hard these ballistic silvertip bullets are on a rifles bore. Any thoughts or experiences guys?
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March 6, 2012, 08:44 PM | #2 |
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Never used the NBST. I primarily use ballistic tips in my 7mag and my 30-06. What have you heard?
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March 6, 2012, 09:07 PM | #3 |
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Same here. I'm a big fan of the ballistic tip hunters, I was told that the coating and makeup of the ballistic silvertips really score and foul a bore. I've never used them so I'm not sure. I'm a notorious load builder when I'm off work. I'm always trying something different just to see what happens. But I'm half scared to send them silvertips down my bore. Thought I would ask here first before I buy any.
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March 6, 2012, 09:34 PM | #4 |
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I can't be of any help either. Nosler is the only bullet I use for 7 mag, 264 mag, 30-06 and 270 but I only use the poly tip. Never had a reason to change.
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March 6, 2012, 09:41 PM | #5 |
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I've never used the Silvertip but I can't imagine Nosler bullets "ruining" a barrel. Seems preposterous to me as the tip never touches the bore.
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March 6, 2012, 09:49 PM | #6 |
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I've used quite a few in .270 Winchester Supreme ammo. The Lubalox coating is supposed to actually be easier on the bore than conventional jacketed bullets. From what I've experienced, I have no reason to dispute that.
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March 6, 2012, 10:07 PM | #7 |
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Thanks for the input guys! I can assure you the things I heard were not in document form. Ill just say you know how it is at the local gun shop when opinions start flyin. That's why I listen and then bring my questions here. As mal h said I would tend to think the lubalox would promote barrel life. And not to mention they are a cool looking bullet. How do they perform on game such as white tail? And once more I can't say enough how much I apreciate you guys taking the time to share your thoughts with me.
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March 6, 2012, 10:15 PM | #8 |
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It is just a NBT with lubalox and the tip color is grey.
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March 6, 2012, 10:19 PM | #9 |
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I'll bet the guys saying that at the local gun shop are thinking they are coated with moly - they aren't, even though they do look like it. Not that moly coating is bad, it does tend to be harder to cleanup after than non-coated bullets.
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March 8, 2012, 07:49 PM | #10 |
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Ive shot half the bore life of my 7 mag with them and it is still sub moa. All I can say is stick with them or dont use them at all. Mixing with plain jacketed bullets makes cleaning the bore hell! But shooting just nbt will keep things simple... just clean regularly and youll be fine.
On the performance end they are my second choice for good ballistic coificient relative to price. They are a little thin for elk or moose but I'm sure there are people who would dissagree with me. They dump energy well with some shed weight. I dont know if it is true but I heard that nosler puts thicker jackets on the 180gr .308 dia and up bullets but better research that before taking on big game. |
March 8, 2012, 08:37 PM | #11 |
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They work great for me, never had any issues with them from a fouling standpoint, my only critique is they are too damaging on deer at velocities over 2800 fps at impact, jacket separation , large exit wounds etc. (.30 caliber 150 gr).
Why I use them is the excellent accuracy in both rifles. (300 WSM and 06'). |
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And you know what opinions are like.... I had used them for my .243 and can not say that I have ever had a problem with them. They expand like advertised and, although expensive for use as a paper puncher, seemed to stop the deer and coyotes. I do not think I had any more or less trouble cleaning my rifle afterwards. If I happen across a good deal on them again, I will use them. Also consider, if they were really that bad, why is the gun store still selling them and why haven't we heard more chatter about how bad they are?
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March 10, 2012, 10:56 AM | #13 |
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Having fired a couple hundred of the silver tips as well as other copper jackets in one particular .243 I can definitely say I was able to fire well over twice as many rounds in a given shot string with the silver tips without groups starting to open up and took less time and effort to clean the bore. I guess that means they work as advertised for me. Great YOTIE bullet .
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I have taken several deer with them from 30 yrds to 280 yrds all dropped where they stood. They aren't magical, shot placement is always the deciding factor. Had no trouble cleaning my bore. They do look kool especially in a nickel case. Bought some of 40gr Combined Technology for my 22-250 they don't make the 40 gr anymore. . They were very accurate as well. |
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Personally I have found that they dont group as tightly as the Ballistic tip but not by that much, as far as fouling goes I'd rather clean my rifle more than have a round thats not quite on the money!
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March 11, 2012, 01:59 AM | #18 |
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Thanks Mal H,
I'm at the Shooter's Pro Shop here in Bend on a regular basis buying up factory seconds I would think I should have known that |
March 11, 2012, 08:20 AM | #19 |
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What the gun shop said indicates to me they have an overstock of something else and are trying to sell you those.
I can't imagine Nosler putting out a product that would harm a bore. IMHO, Nosler is the standard by which others are judged. I am a fan of Ballistic Tips and Partitions. Can't go wrong with either. |
March 11, 2012, 09:14 PM | #20 |
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I put a box of the 140 grainers through my NEF in .280 Remington. They grouped nice and tight. I'll be getting some more. Havn't taken a deer with them yet, as I'm still using up my 150gr Ballistic Tip reloads. They did seem to help with the copper fouling.
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The long range performance on deer is remarkable. In 2010 I tried Berger VLD hunting, but in 2011 I was back with NBT. I am primarily a lung shooter. I want a big hole and I want it out there at 500 yards. The NBT turn the lungs into liquid. The animal falls down or staggers 50 feet.
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