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March 19, 2009, 06:49 AM | #26 |
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I think enemy combatants have the same rights afforded them
under the Geneva convention... the issue was that the folks at Gitmo don't even have those. Once the smoke clears and the 'enemy' is trusted up and made secure they should have those rights and I'll die with a gun in my hand before you convince me differently.. doesn't matter who that enemy is or what they are 'alleged' to have done to get there.
I find if kind of funny that every dern little thing the fed government does now that we on these gun forums find offensive is the fault of B.O. even though I consider myself a liberal, I didn't vote for him and don't really think most of what his party is trying to do will help much... I still find it hard to blame him for everything that is going down. Kind of like blaming G.W.B. for Katrina. |
March 19, 2009, 08:27 PM | #27 |
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as of this pm (pacific time)
according to one of the talk radio pundits I listened to on my way home from work, the administration has withdrawn any plans to disarm pilots.
Quite probably one of those trial balloons, which they fly to draw flak. Since it did, the drop the idea, at least, for now.
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As to my point about the supremacy clause giving treaties equal standing with the Constitution as the supreme law of the land, I stand by what I wrote, and I'm in fairly good company: Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., for one, took the same position (cf. his opinion in Missouri v. Holland, 1920), and I think he probably did OK in "con law." So, yes, I'd say that the provisions of the Geneva Convention have the same status ("supreme law of the land") as those of the Constitution. I'm perfectly aware that the supremacy clause is anathema to "black-helicopter" xenophobes, but they need to get over it: Article 6 is what it is. Quote:
You're correct, of course, that the US signed but did not ratify the 1977 protocols. The other countries to have failed to ratify them are Israel, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Turkey (which I think ratified 2 but not 1), so the US is in some really good company on this one...
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March 20, 2009, 01:42 PM | #29 |
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Hey, everyone...
Let's all tread lightly with the "cute" and "cagey" Nazi style titles, accusations of communist sympathies, etc., OK? As in, don't use them at all, OK? If that's all you have to round out your message, you don't have a message, OK?
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March 23, 2009, 12:42 PM | #30 |
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http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec..._dropping.html
There just doesn't seem to be any basis of fact whatsoever. But then that would explain why this is an op-ed and not an article.
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March 23, 2009, 08:47 PM | #32 | |
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And the other side of the coin...
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The simple truth of the matter is that individuals and groups who apparently disagreed with the matter of pilots having access to firearms (being armed) added so much junk into the "requirements" as to discourage pilots from completing the "necessary training", and added a host of other potentially dangerous requirements in order to have onboard firearms stored "safely". This is a documented fact, and has been discussed at length, both on this board and elsewhere. So we are left with the choice of allowing the airlines to determine an efficient and cost effective program that meets basic safety parameters (and risking financially strapped airlines canceling the program when convienient to their bottom line), the bloated cumbersome and possibly dangerous govt concieved program as it currently exists, OR unarmed pilots. Somehow, the simple common sense approach desired by the American people got lost in the shuffle.
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Considering the way our people are treated by foreign enemies, they've got it made in the shade down there in Cuba. But that's not enough for the bleeding hearts. They think we should have takeout delivered to their cell from the establishment of their choice. They think we should offer them HBO and other PPV channels. Hell, why don't we throw in a spa and swimming pool? EDIT: one more thing... How do you exactly feel about Guantanamo Bay being closed down? Since we took possession of it, all captured enemies have been put there. If we can't put them there, where can we? How about your back yard? No? I don't want them in mine either. |
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March 28, 2009, 09:41 AM | #34 | |
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The airlines are listening to their lawyers, the politicians are playing politics, and it appears that the only folks who really care about the passengers are the pilots. But then the pilots are in the same boat - uhhh airplane. |
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