Remington R-25

bbamericanb · September 26, 2012, 03:35 PM

Hey, I bought a R-25 in .308. Cleaned it, took it to te range shot it about 50 times

(I was in a time crunch). Took it home cleaned it again and cycled some rounds. The I noticed on the rounds the were scratches on the bullet that weren't there before

I will try to get you guys a picture. So any ideas of the cause and/or how to fix?

Technosavant · September 26, 2012, 04:14 PM

Cycling rounds will scratch them up. The mag feed lips, the extractor, etc.

So long as the rifle functions well and shoots accurately I'd not worry about it one little bit... there's no beauty contests for the fired bullets or spent cases.

hodaka · September 26, 2012, 06:23 PM

Yep. How did it shoot?

bbamericanb · September 26, 2012, 06:26 PM

Not great not to bad ( I was pretty excited shooting my first ar style rifle). I shot about 1and 3/4 of an inch at 50 yards

hodaka · September 26, 2012, 06:28 PM

I once had a heavy, 24 inch fluted DPMS and it was incredibly accurate. They make the one you have. What barrel do you have?

bbamericanb · September 26, 2012, 06:37 PM

It is a 20 inch with a 10 inch twist

bbamericanb · September 26, 2012, 06:39 PM

And again it was the first ar rifle I've owned so that may of had something to do with it.

hodaka · September 26, 2012, 06:40 PM

Mine loved 155 Palma's and 4064. It would easily shoot .5 MOA. Sold it due to the fact that it was boringly accurate. Good luck with yours.

bbamericanb · September 26, 2012, 06:59 PM

Haha thats good, thanks alot.

10-96 · September 26, 2012, 08:04 PM

Technosavant- Turn your ammo around.

If your extractor is scratching the base of your cases- that might be expected. But if it's scratching your bullets... uh-oh.

Just ribbin ya- I think I know what you mean.

bbamericanb · September 27, 2012, 06:21 PM

thanks

Technosavant · September 27, 2012, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Turn your ammo around. If your extractor is scratching the base of your cases- that might be expected. But if it's scratching your bullets... uh-oh.

Pfft. That's only if you don't have an AitchUndKay.

The Long Shot · September 27, 2012, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Technosavant- Turn your ammo around. If your extractor is scratching the base of your cases- that might be expected. But if it's scratching your bullets... uh-oh.

HK Style?

Edit: I didn't notice you typed AitchUndKay, I thought you just laid on your keyboard

bbamericanb · September 30, 2012, 08:37 AM

How would the extractor scratch the bullets

10-96 · October 1, 2012, 02:40 AM

It's probably from chambering AND extracting a non-fired round. That's common. The little joke me and Technosavant were refering to was- back a number of years ago (10-12 or so), H&K put together a sophisticated and kinda elegant looking advertisement wherein they showed a magazine with the ammo put in backwards sitting next to one of their USP pistols.

Crow Hunter · October 1, 2012, 07:16 AM

You really shouldn't do that.

Get some dummy rounds if you are going to be doing alot of cycling like that.

You can eventually kill the primers in rounds that you are doing that with since the AR has a floating firing pin. You can dent the primer bad enough that it won't fire.

There is also the slight possibility that a round could fire if the primer is sensitive enough.

Particularly with more sensitive commercial primers versus harder military primers.

Snap caps/dummy rounds are cheap insurance against a AD/ND or missing a good shot on a game animal because your primer is dead.

September 26, 2012, 03:35 PM	#1
bbamericanb Member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 25	Remington R-25 Hey, I bought a R-25 in .308. Cleaned it, took it to te range shot it about 50 times(I was in a time crunch). Took it home cleaned it again and cycled some rounds. The I noticed on the rounds the were scratches on the bullet that weren't there before I will try to get you guys a picture. So any ideas of the cause and/or how to fix?

September 26, 2012, 08:04 PM	#10
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,159	Technosavant- Turn your ammo around. If your extractor is scratching the base of your cases- that might be expected. But if it's scratching your bullets... uh-oh. Just ribbin ya- I think I know what you mean. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

October 1, 2012, 02:40 AM	#15
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,159	It's probably from chambering AND extracting a non-fired round. That's common. The little joke me and Technosavant were refering to was- back a number of years ago (10-12 or so), H&K put together a sophisticated and kinda elegant looking advertisement wherein they showed a magazine with the ammo put in backwards sitting next to one of their USP pistols. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

October 1, 2012, 07:16 AM	#16
Crow Hunter Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2012 Posts: 1,078	You really shouldn't do that. Get some dummy rounds if you are going to be doing alot of cycling like that. You can eventually kill the primers in rounds that you are doing that with since the AR has a floating firing pin. You can dent the primer bad enough that it won't fire. There is also the slight possibility that a round could fire if the primer is sensitive enough. Particularly with more sensitive commercial primers versus harder military primers. Snap caps/dummy rounds are cheap insurance against a AD/ND or missing a good shot on a game animal because your primer is dead. __________________ I am no longer participating in gun forums. Good luck.

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September 26, 2012, 04:14 PM	#2
Technosavant Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 4,040	Cycling rounds will scratch them up. The mag feed lips, the extractor, etc. So long as the rifle functions well and shoots accurately I'd not worry about it one little bit... there's no beauty contests for the fired bullets or spent cases.

September 26, 2012, 06:23 PM	#3
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	Yep. How did it shoot?

September 26, 2012, 06:26 PM	#4
bbamericanb Member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 25	Not great not to bad ( I was pretty excited shooting my first ar style rifle). I shot about 1and 3/4 of an inch at 50 yards

September 26, 2012, 06:28 PM	#5
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	I once had a heavy, 24 inch fluted DPMS and it was incredibly accurate. They make the one you have. What barrel do you have?

September 26, 2012, 06:37 PM	#6
bbamericanb Member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 25	It is a 20 inch with a 10 inch twist

September 26, 2012, 06:39 PM	#7
bbamericanb Member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 25	And again it was the first ar rifle I've owned so that may of had something to do with it.

September 26, 2012, 06:40 PM	#8
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	Mine loved 155 Palma's and 4064. It would easily shoot .5 MOA. Sold it due to the fact that it was boringly accurate. Good luck with yours.

September 26, 2012, 06:59 PM	#9
bbamericanb Member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 25	Haha thats good, thanks alot.

September 27, 2012, 06:21 PM	#11
bbamericanb Member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 25	thanks

September 30, 2012, 08:37 AM	#14
bbamericanb Member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 25	How would the extractor scratch the bullets