An idea I had today

HALL,AUSTIN · July 16, 2013, 04:20 PM

I like 44mags, I also like the idea of a five shot cylinder on a 4 inch model. Or even a coonan style 1911 in 44. Do any of these exist? If so, who makes them? If not, is this something I could have built?

Bart Noir · July 18, 2013, 02:18 PM

There are some Taurus Tracker guns which are 5-shooters in .44 Mangle-em. I sold my 2.5-inch ported Tracker when I found a 2.5 un-ported Tracker. The frame is sorta between the S&W K-frame and the L-frame.

Again, they were both .44 Magnums. And I will never fire full magnum rounds in it again. Nope, that was negative fun.

But hot .44 Specials, that is a different story.

Taurus doesn't show that barrel length any more in the Tracker. But they do show the .44 Tracker with 4-inch barrels, choice of blued or stainless, ported whether you like it or not.

Bart Noir

jrothWA · July 18, 2013, 02:48 PM

Auto-MAG .44.

A wildcat using the lower thrid of a 7.62 case and loaded hiogher than the .44MAG.

A classic now, but had some poplularity back in the early 80's,
ALL stainless steel, uses a rotary. bolt head to lock up.

CWKahrFan · July 18, 2013, 03:08 PM

Well, you know about these 4+ pounders right?

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firear...hed-Chrome.asp

**44 AMP** · July 19, 2013, 11:04 AM

Years ago there was a smith who was converting S&W (k frame?) into a 5 shot .44 Spl. I think he is long retired now, if still living.

As for a "Coonan style 1911" in .44 Mag, there was one, but not Coonan. The LAR GRIZZLY was available in .44 Mag. Its a stretched 1911, and some of the parts even interchange. It is bigger than the Coonan.

I had one for a while, but traded it off, replacing it with a Grizzly in .45 Win Mag. In .44 Mag, the magazine only held 6, and my gun had feeding issues. My .45WM doesn't.

Your only choice for a current production .44 Mag autoloader is Desert Eagle. Not a 1911 pattern gun, and 4.25lbs empty.

The .44 Auto Mag Pistol (.44AMP) is somewhat lighter, as is the Grizzly, and I think even the Wildey (with 6" barrel) is lighter than the Desert Eagle.

There are NO options for a "compact" magnum autopistol, at this time. The closest thing I ever heard of was the Coonan "Cadet", a .41 Mag (produced as a few prototypes only) which had "shrunken" dimensions that made it about the size of a full size govt model 1911.

Rumor has it that the new Coonan production group may produce this gun, but currently are full time busy making their .357s.

g.willikers · July 19, 2013, 11:44 AM

There's always the Charter Bulldog.
While it's not a .44 Mag, as has already been suggested, .44 Specials can come close.
The first attempts, at what later evolved into the .44 Mag, were developed with .44 Spl cases.

Stevie-Ray · July 19, 2013, 12:28 PM

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I like 44mags, I also like the idea of a five shot cylinder on a 4 inch model. Or even a coonan style 1911 in 44. Do any of these exist? If so, who makes them? If not, is this something I could have built?

Sounds like a job for John Linebaugh; I'm sure he could do it for you. Be aware though, he'd probably prefer it to be .45 Colt.

sheepman · July 19, 2013, 12:33 PM

(There's always the Charter Bulldog) I have one and like it but there is no way I would shoot hot 44 Sp out of it. When they were first made some of the gun righters tried Elmer Keith loads, I don't remember any blowing up. Mine is one of the originals and it is not a lot of fun to shoot with standard 44SP but with oversized grips it is OK.

There is no free lunch (unless you are a member of Congress) a small light 44 mag is going to kick bad. 15 years ago I said recoil did not bother me, now my arthritic hands tell me different.

Sevens · July 24, 2013, 03:08 PM

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Rumor has it that the new Coonan production group may produce this gun, but currently are full time busy making their .357s.

I second the notion and submit that Coonan setting up at the last two SHOT shows has been the largest factor behind the crazy volume of orders they've taken.

It is my opinion that if they begin to once again produce the Cadet model... it's going to sell like crazy.

July 16, 2013, 04:20 PM	#1
HALL,AUSTIN Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Location: asheville north carolina Posts: 556	An idea I had today I like 44mags, I also like the idea of a five shot cylinder on a 4 inch model. Or even a coonan style 1911 in 44. Do any of these exist? If so, who makes them? If not, is this something I could have built?

July 18, 2013, 02:18 PM	#2
Bart Noir Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2000 Location: Puget Sound, USA Posts: 2,215	There are some Taurus Tracker guns which are 5-shooters in .44 Mangle-em. I sold my 2.5-inch ported Tracker when I found a 2.5 un-ported Tracker. The frame is sorta between the S&W K-frame and the L-frame. Again, they were both .44 Magnums. And I will never fire full magnum rounds in it again. Nope, that was negative fun. But hot .44 Specials, that is a different story. Taurus doesn't show that barrel length any more in the Tracker. But they do show the .44 Tracker with 4-inch barrels, choice of blued or stainless, ported whether you like it or not. Bart Noir __________________ Be of good cheer and mindful of your gun muzzle!

July 18, 2013, 02:48 PM	#3
jrothWA Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2006 Posts: 2,519	NO, What YOuwant is the... Auto-MAG .44. A wildcat using the lower thrid of a 7.62 case and loaded hiogher than the .44MAG. A classic now, but had some poplularity back in the early 80's, ALL stainless steel, uses a rotary. bolt head to lock up.

July 18, 2013, 03:08 PM	#4
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 2,016	Well, you know about these 4+ pounders right? http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firear...hed-Chrome.asp __________________ What did Mrs. Bullet say to Mr. Bullet? ... "We're having a BeeBee!"... IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

July 19, 2013, 11:04 AM	#5
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,846	Years ago there was a smith who was converting S&W (k frame?) into a 5 shot .44 Spl. I think he is long retired now, if still living. As for a "Coonan style 1911" in .44 Mag, there was one, but not Coonan. The LAR GRIZZLY was available in .44 Mag. Its a stretched 1911, and some of the parts even interchange. It is bigger than the Coonan. I had one for a while, but traded it off, replacing it with a Grizzly in .45 Win Mag. In .44 Mag, the magazine only held 6, and my gun had feeding issues. My .45WM doesn't. Your only choice for a current production .44 Mag autoloader is Desert Eagle. Not a 1911 pattern gun, and 4.25lbs empty. The .44 Auto Mag Pistol (.44AMP) is somewhat lighter, as is the Grizzly, and I think even the Wildey (with 6" barrel) is lighter than the Desert Eagle. There are NO options for a "compact" magnum autopistol, at this time. The closest thing I ever heard of was the Coonan "Cadet", a .41 Mag (produced as a few prototypes only) which had "shrunken" dimensions that made it about the size of a full size govt model 1911. Rumor has it that the new Coonan production group may produce this gun, but currently are full time busy making their .357s. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

July 19, 2013, 11:44 AM	#6
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	There's always the Charter Bulldog. While it's not a .44 Mag, as has already been suggested, .44 Specials can come close. The first attempts, at what later evolved into the .44 Mag, were developed with .44 Spl cases. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

July 19, 2013, 12:33 PM	#8
sheepman Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2007 Location: Moses Lake WA Posts: 395	(There's always the Charter Bulldog) I have one and like it but there is no way I would shoot hot 44 Sp out of it. When they were first made some of the gun righters tried Elmer Keith loads, I don't remember any blowing up. Mine is one of the originals and it is not a lot of fun to shoot with standard 44SP but with oversized grips it is OK. There is no free lunch (unless you are a member of Congress) a small light 44 mag is going to kick bad. 15 years ago I said recoil did not bother me, now my arthritic hands tell me different. __________________ The best gun is the one you have when you really need one