Will Bore butter work as a wad lube?

gokyo · June 24, 2009, 09:31 PM

I have read the "so you want a cap and ball" Thread and will try, tallow, paraffin and beeswax, emitted into a mason jar.

However I have I am still a noob and I am trying to keep things on a small scale as i get my feet wet. I kinds of want easy and premade as i start figuring things out.

I was wondering if I could melt up a little bore butter and soak my felt in that.

Or maybe just buy a block of SPG from buffalo arms.

I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

SamStafford · June 24, 2009, 10:24 PM

The bore butter is good.

fastforty · June 25, 2009, 12:54 AM

Yep, it's good wad lube/you can do that (pretty sure you can get wads already lubed with the stuff too).

mykeal · June 25, 2009, 05:48 AM

Actually Bore Butter is an excellent lube to use if you are just starting out. You don't need to melt it down and soak the felt; you can just squeeze some out of the tube onto the cloth and rub it in with your fingers. The heat of your fingers plus the friction of rubbing it into the cloth will melt it enough to penetrate the material.

Bore Butter's only real disadvantage is it's cost. The homemade lube recipes are less expensive but take more effort. Once you're more familiar with the other parts of black powder shooting you can abandon the Bore Butter and get into homemade lubes if you wish.

Clamper Ramrod · June 25, 2009, 08:01 AM

I don't use a lubed felt wad. Every time I do, the lube gets into the powder and I get an unsatisfactory pooosh instead of a bang.
I've put them in and immediatly fired the round and still contamination by the lube.
I've taken to over the ball lube with bore butter. Works fine but gets real messy when you're doing 20 shot strings.

I've used wonder wads by ox yoke, then lubed wads by october country and still contamination.

mykeal · June 25, 2009, 08:22 AM

Apparently you're using too much lube. Try backing off on the amount until you can just barely feel the lube on the wad.

Pahoo · June 25, 2009, 10:34 AM

Absotively !!!

Just keep them in that jar or poly bag and put it out in the sun. Then clean and finger press out the excess. Taught an M/L class last Saturday and it was so hot that I could hardly hang on to my round balls. Uh, what's the word?? .... .50 Cal.

Be Safe !!!

Fingers McGee · June 25, 2009, 10:50 AM

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I don't use a lubed felt wad. Every time I do, the lube gets into the powder and I get an unsatisfactory pooosh instead of a bang.
I've put them in and immediatly fired the round and still contamination by the lube.
I've taken to over the ball lube with bore butter. Works fine but gets real messy when you're doing 20 shot strings.

I've used wonder wads by ox yoke, then lubed wads by october country and still contamination.

Only time I have ever had a contamination problem with lubed wads was when I used some that had too much soft lube in them - you could squeeze it out at room temp. Have never had that problem with Wonder Wads though. Home lubed wads with higher beeswax content reduces the chance of contamination.

gokyo · June 25, 2009, 11:24 AM

Could I mix into Bore butter bees wax. Maybe start with 3/4 mass bore butter to 1/4 mass bees wax?

I could just make a small batch.

Noz · June 25, 2009, 01:16 PM

Try 1 part paraffin form the grocery store, canning variety. One part soy wax or candle wax and 1/2 to 1 part vegetable shortening. Couple of bux involved. Warm, mix and dump your dry wads in. Fish them out, squeeze and let cool. Won't weep into the powder and provides a lubing/scraping action to the barrel with each shot.

gokyo · June 25, 2009, 01:37 PM

Thank you that sound like an interesting recipe.

long rider · June 25, 2009, 05:28 PM

Gokyo, try crisco and beeswax 50 50 best lube in town.

June 24, 2009, 09:31 PM	#1
gokyo Member Join Date: September 25, 2008 Posts: 44	Will Bore butter work as a wad lube? I have read the "so you want a cap and ball" Thread and will try, tallow, paraffin and beeswax, emitted into a mason jar. However I have I am still a noob and I am trying to keep things on a small scale as i get my feet wet. I kinds of want easy and premade as i start figuring things out. I was wondering if I could melt up a little bore butter and soak my felt in that. Or maybe just buy a block of SPG from buffalo arms. I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

June 25, 2009, 12:54 AM	#3
fastforty Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 1999 Location: In a kornfield in kalifornia Posts: 1,161	Yep, it's good wad lube/you can do that (pretty sure you can get wads already lubed with the stuff too). __________________ When Banjos are outlawed, only Outlaws will have Banjos The Bible is my lawbook. I turn the other cheek when applicable, and spend the rest of my days resisting evil at every front, until I have breathed my last breath.

June 25, 2009, 08:01 AM	#5
Clamper Ramrod Junior Member Join Date: February 7, 2009 Location: Earthquake Country, California Posts: 7	I don't use a lubed felt wad. Every time I do, the lube gets into the powder and I get an unsatisfactory pooosh instead of a bang. I've put them in and immediatly fired the round and still contamination by the lube. I've taken to over the ball lube with bore butter. Works fine but gets real messy when you're doing 20 shot strings. I've used wonder wads by ox yoke, then lubed wads by october country and still contamination. __________________ Sherrif Kings River Regulators Hangman/Recorder ECV 1797 Crafter of Fine Ales Fannie Mostly's Gun Boy

June 25, 2009, 05:28 PM	#12
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	Gokyo, try crisco and beeswax 50 50 best lube in town. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

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June 24, 2009, 10:24 PM	#2
SamStafford Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2009 Location: Portageville, MO. 63873 Posts: 162	The bore butter is good.

June 25, 2009, 05:48 AM	#4
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	Actually Bore Butter is an excellent lube to use if you are just starting out. You don't need to melt it down and soak the felt; you can just squeeze some out of the tube onto the cloth and rub it in with your fingers. The heat of your fingers plus the friction of rubbing it into the cloth will melt it enough to penetrate the material. Bore Butter's only real disadvantage is it's cost. The homemade lube recipes are less expensive but take more effort. Once you're more familiar with the other parts of black powder shooting you can abandon the Bore Butter and get into homemade lubes if you wish.

June 25, 2009, 08:22 AM	#6
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	Apparently you're using too much lube. Try backing off on the amount until you can just barely feel the lube on the wad.

June 25, 2009, 10:34 AM	#7
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	Absotively !!! Just keep them in that jar or poly bag and put it out in the sun. Then clean and finger press out the excess. Taught an M/L class last Saturday and it was so hot that I could hardly hang on to my round balls. Uh, what's the word?? .... .50 Cal. Be Safe !!!

June 25, 2009, 11:24 AM	#9
gokyo Member Join Date: September 25, 2008 Posts: 44	Could I mix into Bore butter bees wax. Maybe start with 3/4 mass bore butter to 1/4 mass bees wax? I could just make a small batch.

June 25, 2009, 01:16 PM	#10
Noz Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2009 Posts: 643	Try 1 part paraffin form the grocery store, canning variety. One part soy wax or candle wax and 1/2 to 1 part vegetable shortening. Couple of bux involved. Warm, mix and dump your dry wads in. Fish them out, squeeze and let cool. Won't weep into the powder and provides a lubing/scraping action to the barrel with each shot.

June 25, 2009, 01:37 PM	#11
gokyo Member Join Date: September 25, 2008 Posts: 44	Thank you that sound like an interesting recipe.