The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Conference Center > General Discussion Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 21, 2013, 11:32 AM   #1
E Rob
Member
 
Join Date: December 11, 2005
Location: ohio
Posts: 38
22 lr shortage??

What is the deal with the shortage and buying craze with 22 ammo, I can see with other ammo but 22? realy! Is there anyone on here that would ever thought they would see 22 ammo going like this. I saw a gun auction site where 2100 rounds of 22 lr sold for 7.00 a 50 round box!
E Rob is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 12:15 PM   #2
Alabama Shooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 20, 2012
Location: Sweet Home
Posts: 886
If they were subsonic match that would not be too far off the mark.

People are reacting to a possible ban by buying everything that says gun on it.
__________________
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
Alabama Shooter is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 12:24 PM   #3
Woody55
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 19, 2012
Location: East Texas
Posts: 407
Which leaves you as a potential criminal if you hide all the stuff you are buying and they make it illegal to have. Might as well wait and see how it all turns out.
Woody55 is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 01:01 PM   #4
Rifleman1776
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 25, 2010
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 3,309
There are all kinds of fears about guns and ammo right now. Four years ago it was the same story. Our local Wal-Mart has been out of most ammo for the past three months. The demand will catch up. I am below the minimum amout of bulk .22 ammo I want to keep on hand.
There are proposals to:
serial number and register every round of ammunition sold;
serial number and register every box of ammuntion sold. This would be done with micro-stamping, a very expensive process, to say nothing of the cost of bureaucracy needed to track it all.
Another proposal would be to engrave the firing pin of all guns with micro-stamping to track ammunition used in a crime. Another extremely expensive proposition, especially if it requires retro-fitting all existing guns with micro-stamped firing pins.
And, simplest of all, simply put exhorbitant taxes on all ammunition. e.g. one round of 30-06 might cost $10.00 with taxes.
Answer yer question? I'm buying now.
I am primarily a traditional muzzle loader. We have similar fears about the control and cost of genuine black powder and pure lead.
Rifleman1776 is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 01:31 PM   #5
breakingcontact
Junior member
 
Join Date: October 25, 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 736
If you're clamoring for the popular centerfire stuff and can't find it, 22LR or 22Mag is a good consolation prize.
breakingcontact is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 01:39 PM   #6
TheNocturnus
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 29, 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1,097
And all of these hoarders are making it impossible for the rest of us to go and get some ammo just to shoot at the range. Thanks guys.
__________________
My EDC:
Gun
Wallet
Brain (Use this one the most)
TheNocturnus is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 01:43 PM   #7
Water-Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 23, 2008
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 2,126
Paranoia comes in all calibers.
Water-Man is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 01:55 PM   #8
Alabama Shooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 20, 2012
Location: Sweet Home
Posts: 886
Quote:
And all of these hoarders are making it impossible for the rest of us to go and get some ammo just to shoot at the range. Thanks guys.
No. The real hoarders bought BEFORE the crunch. People who are buying now are reselling or panic buying.
__________________
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
Alabama Shooter is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 02:14 PM   #9
UtahHunting
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 26, 2009
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 428
Quote:
No. The real hoarders bought BEFORE the crunch. People who are buying now are reselling or panic buying.
I was one who bought before this crunch right after the last one. In 2008 after the last ammo shortage I stocked up on 22LR and .380 as those are what I shoot the most. At last count I had close to 15k rounds in 22LR and I am afraid to shoot it because I fear what the future holds.

I am somewhat paranoid as to what is going to happen. I have even stocked up on my black powder supplies and those can still be had with ease.
UtahHunting is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 02:36 PM   #10
Alabama Shooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 20, 2012
Location: Sweet Home
Posts: 886
Quote:
At last count I had close to 15k rounds in 22LR and I am afraid to shoot it because I fear what the future holds.
Like what? An invasion of squirrels and cane toads?
__________________
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
Alabama Shooter is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 02:52 PM   #11
silvrjeepr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 6, 2009
Posts: 213
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alabama Shooter View Post
Like what? An invasion of squirrels and cane toads?
No. An ammo ban...
Then an invasion of squirrels and came toads.
silvrjeepr is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 02:56 PM   #12
UtahHunting
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 26, 2009
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 428
In all reality I think the progressive agenda is an all out ban. At the very least I believe you will see some type of tax on ammo regardless of the caliber to try and make it too expensive for the average shooter.
UtahHunting is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 02:57 PM   #13
Alabama Shooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 20, 2012
Location: Sweet Home
Posts: 886
Quote:
No. An ammo ban...
If .22rf gets banned you are going to have much bigger problems.
__________________
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
Alabama Shooter is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 05:10 PM   #14
North East Redneck
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 6, 2012
Location: Berkshire Hills
Posts: 741
Mass is proposing an extra 25% tax on ammo. Will it happen? Maybe. I've been adding to my stock of ammo, and yes, that includes .22.
__________________
NRA Patron Member
SAF Life Member
GOAL Member
North East Redneck is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 05:16 PM   #15
Dr Big Bird PhD
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 26, 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 779
If they ban .22lr then there's gonna be a lotttttt of problems reallllllyyy quickly
__________________
I told the new me,
"Meet me at the bus station and hold a sign that reads: 'Today is the first day of the rest of your life.'"
But the old me met me with a sign that read: "Welcome back."
Who you are is not a function of where you are. -Off Minor
Dr Big Bird PhD is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 05:21 PM   #16
rebs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 10, 2012
Posts: 3,881
I seen black hills 223 for 64.99 for 50 rounds at a local gun shop. They were completely out of 22lr.
rebs is offline  
Old January 21, 2013, 05:24 PM   #17
breakingcontact
Junior member
 
Join Date: October 25, 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 736
Just tell the hoarders they are buying non-tactical ammo and they'll put it back on the shelf.
breakingcontact is offline  
Old January 22, 2013, 08:49 AM   #18
Xaak
Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2013
Location: NYC, L.A. and Va
Posts: 62
BreakingContact said - "Just tell the hoarders they are buying non-tactical ammo and they'll put it back on the shelf."

Unless of course they are buying CCI AR Tactical 40 gr 22 lr, then that makes their 10 22 a tactical rifle. I bought a box and I am thinking about hitting the buying glut by selling my 10 22 plinker with a box of that ammo and calling it the tactical rifle package, throw in a sling, 800 bucks
__________________
The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. ~ Samuel Adams ~
Xaak is offline  
Old January 22, 2013, 10:50 AM   #19
breakingcontact
Junior member
 
Join Date: October 25, 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 736
Good point. Forgot about those AR tactical 22LR rounds. More deadly than a 308.
breakingcontact is offline  
Old January 22, 2013, 12:34 PM   #20
CharlieDeltaJuliet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 25, 2012
Posts: 755
I was just at my local Walmart, they still had 100 round boxes of CCI mini mags. I always try to keep a few thousand rounds of bulk .22lr on hand. I was lucky enough to buy 4500 rounds of CCI Blazer the day before this panic started.. I really don't understand it, other than people are buying anything they can right now...anything. I swear I could make a rubberband gun, paint it black, put a pistol grip and a forward grip on it and people would buy it too.... This nonsense has happened before, and probably will again. This time is might be a little worse just because so many more are trying to buy stuff...

My wife gave a friend if ours some great advice... He started talking about spending thousands and the impending ammo shortage, she simply said.... This too shall pass...

Ammo will catch back up eventually. It just takes time. When idiots are buying 2-5k rounds of 5.56 at $1+ a round, just laugh knowing that ammo will continue to be made and eventually will be on the shelves again... While it may never be $0.25 a round again, it most likely will not be $1 a round either...
__________________
" The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to
keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect
themselves against tyranny in Government.
..." - Thomas Jefferson
CharlieDeltaJuliet is offline  
Old January 22, 2013, 01:25 PM   #21
zincwarrior
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 1, 2011
Location: Texas, land of Tex-Mex
Posts: 2,259
Quote:
Quote:
At last count I had close to 15k rounds in 22LR and I am afraid to shoot it because I fear what the future holds.

Like what? An invasion of squirrels and cane toads?
Our wiener dogs have been warning about the pending squirrel menace for some time.

As noted above, I don't think its hoarders per se, but panicked buyers and speculators.
zincwarrior is offline  
Old January 22, 2013, 01:46 PM   #22
vito
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 20, 2004
Location: IL
Posts: 853
Whether it is panic buying or hoarders doesn't much matter if the end result is that you can't find the ammo on the shelves. That said, I think it is panic buying, and shows little sign of abating right now. Probably when someone first wrote "..beat your swords in plowshares..." there was a run on swords.
vito is offline  
Old January 22, 2013, 10:07 PM   #23
hunter52
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 27, 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 101
I am not a hoarder, nor am I a panic buyer, but I do have 43 bulk packs of 22lr, Remington 525 packs Federal 550 and 525 packs plus a dozen bricks of Win. wildcat , Winchester T22 and Federal American Eagle plus odds and ends of CCI ,Stingers, MiniMag, . Some of the packs are 10- 12 or so years old. Price on them was $8.99.
I used to buy a couple packs every time we went to town (78 miles to the nearest WalMart) because my 3 boys and I could go through one or two on a weekend with ease.
My sons all went off to college, and I kept buying 22's every time I went to town. My sons are all moved away and busy with their own lives now and I just don't shoot as much as I used to.
I see prices of the bulk packs on GunBroker approaching $70 and am tempted to just sell it all off , but then the little voice in the back of my head that I have learned to trust tells me not to.
hunter52 is offline  
Old January 22, 2013, 10:41 PM   #24
xnaerughiazk
Member
 
Join Date: October 30, 2009
Location: Maine
Posts: 68
It's not just about guns and ammo

It is also about a feared financial collapse.

The entire western world is in huge debt. Almost all nations are buying their own bonds. All central banks are printing money like a banshee. Inflation fears are on the horizon. What would you rather hold in your hand a fist full of worthless dollars or a brick of 22s?
xnaerughiazk is offline  
Old January 22, 2013, 11:43 PM   #25
Sure Shot Mc Gee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,876
The easiest and cheapest bullets to produce. When it get down to shortages in 22s in the market place. It's a problem. Don't want to be a naysayer. But I've seen shortages of ammo and components in the past. But not like it is now. I've curtailed my center-fire & rim fire shooting altogether. I do have a small amount of supplies and a brick or two of 22s But I feel there is more of a need for me to keep that level of preparedness available.

S/S
Sure Shot Mc Gee is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.12419 seconds with 10 queries