Newbie Question about bullet pulling

jwrowland77 · April 25, 2012, 10:13 PM

I am currently working on a reduced recoil load for my daughter and her single shot Rossi .223.

I am using H-4895, R-P cases trimmed to 1.752, CCI 400 primer, Hornady 55gn V-Max. I am using a powder charge of 16.5 per Hodgdons instructions for making a reduced recoil load (called them). I am doing a complete work up from 15.6 (as per Hodgdons instructions of taking 60% of max load), and working my way up to the starting load to see where my daughter can handle the recoil.

Question is, if I make the OAL to short and need to back it out a tad, can I use my kinetic bullet puller and tap it few times to back it out a bit and then set the bullet to the correct OAL or do I need to completely pull the bullet and start from square one?

I am using an OAL of 2.238. OAL in the book is 2.250, but I know her gun will shoot an OAL of 2.240 safely and with the reduced load I figured the 2.238-2.240 OAL would not cause over pressure. I made a round and the OAL was 2.225 and I wanted to back it out a bit to the 2.238-2.240 OAL.

Any and all advice appreciated.

dacaur · April 25, 2012, 10:28 PM

I have done that (use puller to tap bullet out a little) and it seemed to work fine.... I dont think I would do It on a round I intended to use to hunt with, but other than that, I dont see a problem with it.

jwrowland77 · April 25, 2012, 10:36 PM

Yeah I'm just working up a load to her max threshold of recoil right now and then I was going to make her some hunting ones once I find that.

hhunter318 · April 26, 2012, 11:59 AM

Only problem I ever had with pulling bullets ALL the way out and reseating was lightly marring the bullet from pulling it out of the crimp, but for your purposes I don't see the hurt in doing either one(pulling out partially or all the way). Only time I didn't reuse the bullets I had to pull was when loading for my target rifle.

mehavey · April 26, 2012, 12:17 PM

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if I make the OAL to short and need to back it out a tad, can I use my kinetic bullet puller and tap it few times to back it out a bit and then set the bullet to the correct OAL

Absolutely.
Works fine.

PA-Joe · April 26, 2012, 05:27 PM

If you are looking for some fun reduced loads go to jamescalhoon dot com. He has a listing of gopher loads that allow you to go anywhere from 22LR to 22 hornet.

mrawesome22 · April 26, 2012, 11:35 PM

I would jam seat them to try and even out the inconsistent start pressures of the reduced load.

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oneoldsap · April 27, 2012, 03:40 PM

I do it whenever I set up a die , it seems . Doesn't hurt a thing to tap it back out part way , and reseat to the length you're looking for . It's easiest to make up a dummy round to get everything right before loading any ammo . If you load more then one gun with that seating die , you can readjust it with dummy rounds for each gun !

twins · April 27, 2012, 03:43 PM

I would highly recommend investing in the Hornady cam lock bullet puller. It saves the bullet from damage (such as lead tip) & powder from flying all over the place - that can happen with a kinetic bullet hammer.

dacaur · April 27, 2012, 07:23 PM

or the poor mans puller, plier type wire cutters.... raise the bullet through the empty die hole, gently grip the bullet with the wire cutters and lower the ram...

April 25, 2012, 10:13 PM	#1
jwrowland77 Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2012 Location: Conway, Arkansas Posts: 1,398	Newbie Question about bullet pulling I am currently working on a reduced recoil load for my daughter and her single shot Rossi .223. I am using H-4895, R-P cases trimmed to 1.752, CCI 400 primer, Hornady 55gn V-Max. I am using a powder charge of 16.5 per Hodgdons instructions for making a reduced recoil load (called them). I am doing a complete work up from 15.6 (as per Hodgdons instructions of taking 60% of max load), and working my way up to the starting load to see where my daughter can handle the recoil. Question is, if I make the OAL to short and need to back it out a tad, can I use my kinetic bullet puller and tap it few times to back it out a bit and then set the bullet to the correct OAL or do I need to completely pull the bullet and start from square one? I am using an OAL of 2.238. OAL in the book is 2.250, but I know her gun will shoot an OAL of 2.240 safely and with the reduced load I figured the 2.238-2.240 OAL would not cause over pressure. I made a round and the OAL was 2.225 and I wanted to back it out a bit to the 2.238-2.240 OAL. Any and all advice appreciated.

April 27, 2012, 03:40 PM	#8
oneoldsap Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2009 Location: I live in the foot of the Green Mountains of Vermont Posts: 1,602	Dummys I do it whenever I set up a die , it seems . Doesn't hurt a thing to tap it back out part way , and reseat to the length you're looking for . It's easiest to make up a dummy round to get everything right before loading any ammo . If you load more then one gun with that seating die , you can readjust it with dummy rounds for each gun !

April 25, 2012, 10:28 PM	#2
dacaur Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2010 Posts: 733	I have done that (use puller to tap bullet out a little) and it seemed to work fine.... I dont think I would do It on a round I intended to use to hunt with, but other than that, I dont see a problem with it.

April 25, 2012, 10:36 PM	#3
jwrowland77 Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2012 Location: Conway, Arkansas Posts: 1,398	Yeah I'm just working up a load to her max threshold of recoil right now and then I was going to make her some hunting ones once I find that.

April 26, 2012, 11:59 AM	#4
hhunter318 Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2010 Posts: 163	Only problem I ever had with pulling bullets ALL the way out and reseating was lightly marring the bullet from pulling it out of the crimp, but for your purposes I don't see the hurt in doing either one(pulling out partially or all the way). Only time I didn't reuse the bullets I had to pull was when loading for my target rifle.

April 26, 2012, 05:27 PM	#6
PA-Joe Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: NEPA Posts: 909	If you are looking for some fun reduced loads go to jamescalhoon dot com. He has a listing of gopher loads that allow you to go anywhere from 22LR to 22 hornet.

April 26, 2012, 11:35 PM	#7
mrawesome22 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2005 Location: Ohio, Appalachia's foothills. Posts: 3,779	I would jam seat them to try and even out the inconsistent start pressures of the reduced load. Sent from my Wildfire S using Tapatalk 2

April 27, 2012, 03:43 PM	#9
twins Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2010 Posts: 393	I would highly recommend investing in the Hornady cam lock bullet puller. It saves the bullet from damage (such as lead tip) & powder from flying all over the place - that can happen with a kinetic bullet hammer.

April 27, 2012, 07:23 PM	#10
dacaur Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2010 Posts: 733	or the poor mans puller, plier type wire cutters.... raise the bullet through the empty die hole, gently grip the bullet with the wire cutters and lower the ram...