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mongfu · August 8, 2000, 07:41 PM

has anyone heard of, or have anything good or bad to say about MPro7 firearms cleaner?

Ledbetter · August 8, 2000, 09:14 PM

It's good. I have some. Lots of people swear by it, but you must re-lube afterwards. I only use it inside the bore, or in a stainless chamber. I use the gel.

Ledbetter

Cliff · August 8, 2000, 09:38 PM

mongfu - I have some and it does work well. Like Ledbetter says, you have to re-lube after cleaning with it.

I think the big advantages are that it's odor free and non-caustic. You can soak parts in a container full of the stuff and then re-use it because the solution doesn't get contaminated like Hoppes, et al.

Cliff

JNewell · August 10, 2000, 07:27 AM

I like it, but it does not seem to cut barrel fouling as well as a conventional bore solvent. I often find residual fouling that a couple of strokes with a brush and Hoppe's takes right out. Anyone else having this experience?

I like the fact that it's non-toxic and non-volitile a lot.

Icopy · August 10, 2000, 07:59 AM

It's ok. I have a bottle and use it occassionaly. But it doesn't do a thing for copper. So you have to use a copper remover afterwards. Would I buy it again? Probally not.

mongfu · August 10, 2000, 08:56 AM

thanks everybody for all your input!

Ledbetter · August 10, 2000, 12:21 PM

JNewell,

Do you use a bronze brush in conjunction with the MPro7? It works fine for me. My biggest complaint is that you have to be absolutely sure to get all of it out, so I brush with solvent and then oil afterward anyway.

Ledbetter

kanak · August 10, 2000, 05:16 PM

I love MPro7 and have been using it for the past 6 months. It works great!

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kanak

doctorj · August 11, 2000, 12:44 PM

I use it, and I think it's better than Hoppe's and quicker. Only thing is, they make a big deal about it removing the fouling on the front of the cylinder face of a stainless revolver, but it doesn't, not completely. I have to use a little bit of "Brasso", which works perfectly.

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Thanks,
doctorj

JNewell · August 11, 2000, 06:11 PM

Ledbetter -- yes, I do use a brush. Without, it really does leave powder (or jacket?) residue behind. (I believe it's powder residue, since jacket fouling usually turns the patch greenish -- though I suppose even Speer, Federal and the like might be using copper plated iron now? Dunno.)

Docj, true, but it does do a very good job considering how fast and well it works. And, I like its low toxicity. I hate to think how many chemicals I've absorbed over the years. I usually wear latex gloves now...

slickpuppy · August 11, 2000, 06:35 PM

IOSSO kicks MPro's tail hands down. Much better.

Ledbetter · August 11, 2000, 08:49 PM

JNewell,

I'm glad I'm not the only one who wears gloves while cleaning guns. I get the mechanic's chemical-proof ones from the auto parts store and use them two or three times. I also wear safety glasses since I got brake cleaner in my eyes. (Splish-splash)

What is Iosso? Some people say Simple Green works good too. Heat the gun parts afterwards to dry.

Regards,

Ledbetter

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Rainbow Six · August 12, 2000, 03:56 PM

I use MPRO-7 and love it. It removes everything except copper. I always follow up with a little Butch's Bore Shine (outdoors) to remove copper and then another go with MPRO-7 followed by a *HOT* rinse in water, drying and a good lube with Butch's Gun Oil.

BTW, I tried the MPRO-7 test, ie; Clean with (insert your old stuff here) then use MPRO-7 and see the stuff on the patch. I pulled black (carbon?) from all my "clean" Glock barrels except for one that I had used JB Bore Paste on. All, including the "JB" cleaned bore, had been thoroughly cleaned with Shooter's Choice and Butch's Bore Shine. The MPRO-7 still pulled residue from the non-JB'd barrels. MPRO-7 definitely works. I highly recommend it.

Ledbetter,

IOSSO is an abrasive paste type cleaner similar to JB Bore Paste. I know the package says "non-abrasive" but trust me... IT IS ABRASIVE.

Ronin 99 · August 13, 2000, 12:43 AM

MPro7? Good stuff. Better than Hoppe's #9 or CLP.

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NRA/GOA/GOTF
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Circlesqr · August 14, 2000, 03:10 PM

I noticed the Mpro7 does a much faster job cleaning barrels that have been treated with Militec-1 first. I use Hoppes to clean and Militec-1 for lube during the first 3-4 cleanings and then only Mpro7 and Militec-1 and thereafter.
Once the Militec bonds, it only takes a patch or two soaked in Mpro7 to clean the heck out of the barrel.
My one P225 that has not been drowned in Militec-1 cleans up nicely with Mpro7 but it takes considerably longer to do so.
--Daniel

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August 8, 2000, 07:41 PM	#1
mongfu Member Join Date: February 19, 2000 Posts: 29	has anyone heard of, or have anything good or bad to say about MPro7 firearms cleaner?

August 8, 2000, 09:14 PM	#2
Ledbetter Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2000 Location: California USA Posts: 4,533	It's good. I have some. Lots of people swear by it, but you must re-lube afterwards. I only use it inside the bore, or in a stainless chamber. I use the gel. Ledbetter

August 8, 2000, 09:38 PM	#3
Cliff Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 1999 Location: Saranap, CA Posts: 473	mongfu - I have some and it does work well. Like Ledbetter says, you have to re-lube after cleaning with it. I think the big advantages are that it's odor free and non-caustic. You can soak parts in a container full of the stuff and then re-use it because the solution doesn't get contaminated like Hoppes, et al. Cliff

August 10, 2000, 07:27 AM	#4
JNewell Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2000 Posts: 1,092	I like it, but it does not seem to cut barrel fouling as well as a conventional bore solvent. I often find residual fouling that a couple of strokes with a brush and Hoppe's takes right out. Anyone else having this experience? I like the fact that it's non-toxic and non-volitile a lot.

August 10, 2000, 07:59 AM	#5
Icopy Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2000 Posts: 340	It's ok. I have a bottle and use it occassionaly. But it doesn't do a thing for copper. So you have to use a copper remover afterwards. Would I buy it again? Probally not.

August 10, 2000, 08:56 AM	#6
mongfu Member Join Date: February 19, 2000 Posts: 29	thanks everybody for all your input!

August 10, 2000, 12:21 PM	#7
Ledbetter Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2000 Location: California USA Posts: 4,533	JNewell, Do you use a bronze brush in conjunction with the MPro7? It works fine for me. My biggest complaint is that you have to be absolutely sure to get all of it out, so I brush with solvent and then oil afterward anyway. Ledbetter

August 10, 2000, 05:16 PM	#8
kanak Junior Member Join Date: August 9, 2000 Location: Hawaii Posts: 14	I love MPro7 and have been using it for the past 6 months. It works great! ------------------ kanak

August 11, 2000, 12:44 PM	#9
doctorj Member Join Date: May 23, 2000 Location: Wilmington, Delaware, USA Posts: 36	I use it, and I think it's better than Hoppe's and quicker. Only thing is, they make a big deal about it removing the fouling on the front of the cylinder face of a stainless revolver, but it doesn't, not completely. I have to use a little bit of "Brasso", which works perfectly. ------------------ Thanks, doctorj

August 11, 2000, 06:11 PM	#10
JNewell Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2000 Posts: 1,092	Ledbetter -- yes, I do use a brush. Without, it really does leave powder (or jacket?) residue behind. (I believe it's powder residue, since jacket fouling usually turns the patch greenish -- though I suppose even Speer, Federal and the like might be using copper plated iron now? Dunno.) Docj, true, but it does do a very good job considering how fast and well it works. And, I like its low toxicity. I hate to think how many chemicals I've absorbed over the years. I usually wear latex gloves now...

August 11, 2000, 06:35 PM	#11
slickpuppy Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 1999 Posts: 928	IOSSO kicks MPro's tail hands down. Much better.

August 11, 2000, 08:49 PM	#12
Ledbetter Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2000 Location: California USA Posts: 4,533	JNewell, I'm glad I'm not the only one who wears gloves while cleaning guns. I get the mechanic's chemical-proof ones from the auto parts store and use them two or three times. I also wear safety glasses since I got brake cleaner in my eyes. (Splish-splash) What is Iosso? Some people say Simple Green works good too. Heat the gun parts afterwards to dry. Regards, Ledbetter [This message has been edited by Ledbetter (edited August 11, 2000).]

August 12, 2000, 03:56 PM	#13
Rainbow Six Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2000 Location: West Georgia, USA Posts: 1,314	I use MPRO-7 and love it. It removes everything except copper. I always follow up with a little Butch's Bore Shine (outdoors) to remove copper and then another go with MPRO-7 followed by a HOT rinse in water, drying and a good lube with Butch's Gun Oil. BTW, I tried the MPRO-7 test, ie; Clean with (insert your old stuff here) then use MPRO-7 and see the stuff on the patch. I pulled black (carbon?) from all my "clean" Glock barrels except for one that I had used JB Bore Paste on. All, including the "JB" cleaned bore, had been thoroughly cleaned with Shooter's Choice and Butch's Bore Shine. The MPRO-7 still pulled residue from the non-JB'd barrels. MPRO-7 definitely works. I highly recommend it. Ledbetter, IOSSO is an abrasive paste type cleaner similar to JB Bore Paste. I know the package says "non-abrasive" but trust me... IT IS ABRASIVE.

August 13, 2000, 12:43 AM	#14
Ronin 99 Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2000 Location: NY Posts: 521	MPro7? Good stuff. Better than Hoppe's #9 or CLP. ------------------ NRA/GOA/GOTF Vote!!

August 14, 2000, 03:10 PM	#15
Circlesqr Member Join Date: April 1, 2000 Posts: 40	I noticed the Mpro7 does a much faster job cleaning barrels that have been treated with Militec-1 first. I use Hoppes to clean and Militec-1 for lube during the first 3-4 cleanings and then only Mpro7 and Militec-1 and thereafter. Once the Militec bonds, it only takes a patch or two soaked in Mpro7 to clean the heck out of the barrel. My one P225 that has not been drowned in Militec-1 cleans up nicely with Mpro7 but it takes considerably longer to do so. --Daniel ------------------