December 18, 2008, 03:48 AM | #1 |
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S&W Dealer Alert
Anyone contemplating a rare S&W revolver purchase from David Carroll would be well advised to look here.
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December 18, 2008, 01:43 PM | #2 |
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Okay, a plug to your auction and slam a reputable dealer in your add. Did you ever take up your issue with him first?
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I'm not criticizing anyone, but...I cannot conceive of ever buying a used ANYTHING without at least having some photos of it, let alone a firearm I'm dropping several thousand dollars on.
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Caveat Emptor.
He doesn't do pictures, and you shouldn't do business with someone who's afraid to supply them. Digital cameras are cheap, and pictures are easy to take. Anytime a person declines to show pictures, they're likely hiding something. If I'm the one with the money, then I make the rules. If the seller won't comply, and dodges an issue like that, walk away. And I don't care who the person is, what their reputation is, or how many things they claim to have sold to various people. Walk away with the cash, and spend it elsewhere. It's as simple as that. If you really want recourse, then you need to file a lawsuit. Daryl |
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Mike, This is off of his website:
GUARANTEE: Whether you agree with my description matters not at all. If you just simply don’t like a particular gun; send it back for a full refund. Our goal is for you to be well pleased with each purchase - Our guarantee is absolute and good for life !! - Ask for your money back and if he honors his Guarantee good if not, well I guess its; Caveat emptor But if I got stuck with a broken 5000 dollar gun it would be; Caveat venditor. Good luck with it and I don't believe I will be doing business with Mr Carroll due to my Financial constraints, au revoir......................Sam
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I would get a printout of the website before he removes the guarantee
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I wondered this as well ? I can tell you I know the accused David Carrol and have never heard a bad word about the man in all his Years of selling guns he has always offered a return if you are not Pleased with his Guns. There also is two sides to every story but sadly we have Not heard David's side to it. He has Many guns and I can see why he would not photograph them due to the many Tire Kicker Browsers on the net, Most Not being serious Buyers it would not be worth his while..I like to know the full story before pulling the Pin on someone and this ones seems One sided to me.. Hammer It
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Agreed that we have only heard one side of the story. Myself, I would never buy a collector grade gun sight unseen. A picture is worth a thousand words................or thousands of dollars.
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Hey larvatus
Just curious if you are the buyer ? If not I guess your information is second hand as Well. I asked David about this Flame Thread and he agreed he did NOT offer the Buyer a refund so that tells me there is much more to the story that is NOT being told here..and No I was Not Joking one bit. Hammer It
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A search of Larvatus's postings might be in order here. He started a thread on cracked CZ frames that he kept alive for more than twenty pages. Nothing personal, just thought I'd mention it.
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I saw this thread and asked David if he was aware of it. He did not give me all the details of this transaction, but I felt that they were Not my Business anyways, so I did not Pry but being that I know the Man and know he has sold Thousands of Revolvers in the past 25 Years it seemed Odd to me he had an issue with this guy as all I have ever heard is good out of anyone that has dealt with him in the past. I feel there is a Lot more that the seller Kind of Forgot or is not revealing about this whole Deal. Most of David's Guns are "Collectible" status. From what I read the Problem is a factory Problem not one MR Caroll Caused or perhaps may not have been aware of as I assume he does not fire every gun he offeres for sale. I Can't see the Guy getting Trashed when the complete story has not been disclosed by Both parties here, it is One sided from what I read & as I said, "There is always two sides to every story", and I am done with this as I Know David Carroll and Doubt he did not try to make it right with this guy to begin with, there has to be much more involved here that made him decide to Not refund the guys money, as he did share with me that this is the Only Customer in the past Quarter of a Century that he has not refunded their money when it was requested, so evidently the Buyer is NOT telling the whole story here, No Matter what he Typed up in his for sale add .. Hammer It
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Hammer It - unless you know the actual reason Mr. Carroll is not offering a refund, it might be best for you to stop offering your opinions on the deal. larvatus, the actual buyer of the revolver, has given his side of the story. The only person who can give David Carroll's side of the story is David Carroll himself, or his proxy who can quote him directly. So far, that proxy isn't you in that your posts are only a testimonial to the general character of the man and the manner in which he has dealt with others in the past. There have been no facts concerning the deal in question presented from Mr. Carroll's viewpoint. You yourself stated that Mr. Carroll has not given you the details of the transaction.
jaydubya - how is what you posted germane to the present topic? I would suggest everyone take a deep breath and stop posting suppositions and hearsay on this subject until actual facts can be posted. |
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Hello mal
Sage advice. I was only stating that I have Known David a very Long time and this is Not his usual Policy, Nor way of Handling a Buyers Problems. That's is all and I am done with this thread thanks for your insight, No disrespect intended on the seller Nor the Buyer here.. Hammer It
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What Ever.... I said I was done with this thread and the Moderator has asked us to stop Flameing, But apparently that is what you want as seen in Most your threads Previously Posted. If you feel you are right, and Got a Gun that was Misrepresented by the seller why Not Hire an attorney to gain back your funds back rather than Whine on the Internet about It ? Take it up with David, I am through with it & You, as I feel there is No Merit to this, But that is just my Opinion.... Hammer It
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Mal H -- I've sent you an e-mail on this.
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larvatus - please do not post again in an inflammatory manner. It doesn't help you or the readers of your thread one iota.
Jack - I got it, thanks. |
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