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Old February 4, 2006, 11:36 AM   #1
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Holster I made for my 51 Navy

A friend sent me some leather to make this holster. After saturating the leather with alcohol and wrapping the gun in Saran wrap I form fitted the leather to the gun as it was drying. Also clamped the edges nice and tight then trimmed it and double stiched it.It has a tripple layer of leather for the belt loop on back.Works and feels great!! Mike
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Old February 4, 2006, 11:57 AM   #2
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Mike, as usual another great job.
I just got a couple holsters from the movie "Geroimo, An American Legend" military non issue Mexican Loop pictured on the bottom of page 31 of "Packing Iron" book. I Hot Water formed fit them to my '58's last night. They are drying today then they get olive oiled. I got to get some alchohol and try that next time.
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Old February 4, 2006, 12:00 PM   #3
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Damn RK....yer pretty talented there my brother...nice lookin rig!!!!..maybe im gonna learn how to sew someday..
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Old February 4, 2006, 02:26 PM   #4
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OD, I'de really like to some pics of the holsters when your done.I always used hot water with my leather too, that's the way I was taught. Steve sent me the leather and suggested the Alcoho. It works faster to soften the leather and dries quicker.

Thanks Missoura Don, It was fun to do and not hard at all. Good thing to do on a rainie day
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Old February 4, 2006, 08:37 PM   #5
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Very nicely done, good job. I like it.

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“It has a triple layer of leather for the belt loop on back”
??? Show us/me please.

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I too would like to see some pics of the "Geroimo, An American
Legend" holsters.

Why olive oil?

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Old February 4, 2006, 09:19 PM   #6
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Tinker, It's in my shop along with my camera so I'll take a pic in the A.M. and post in. Mike
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Old February 5, 2006, 07:13 AM   #7
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Mike,
That is one nice looking holster! Excellent work my freind!
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Old February 5, 2006, 10:56 AM   #8
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Holsters From Movie "Geronimo, An American Legend"

Tinker2,
Here they are the right one has a bit more detail than the left because of the ejector on the pistol, left side the ejector is on the back...DUH! They lost some of their "Black showing age" when I wet them, but I don't care. Unfortunately the loop covers the ejector detail.

They do not form fit like RK's, and being Non Reg Military they shouldn't, but they sure fit the pistols.
These can be found on page 31 bottom of the book Packing Iron.
The brass plaques read:
Allegheny
US
Arsenal
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Old February 5, 2006, 11:54 AM   #9
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Timker, Hope this helps. It's double on this side and a total of four layers thick on the other side due to the holster making two layers.Very strong and the holster stays put!

Thanks Low Key, Steve sent me the leather but haven't heard from him in a while.

Wow ! OD, They are beautiful!! Just to have them and to know they were used in a movie is something! , Mike
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Old February 5, 2006, 12:27 PM   #10
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Nice holster. Did you dye the leather afterwards or is it the same color as when received?
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Old February 5, 2006, 01:15 PM   #11
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Gary, The leather was a cream color ir flesh color I guess you could call it. It turned that redish color from the Alcohol I'm guessing.
I'm going to dye it a deep brown color to match the belt, cylinder holder and cap pouch I already have. Mike
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Old February 5, 2006, 07:27 PM   #12
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Navy Frog from the TNT Movie "The Ironclads"

RK, I didn't mean to hijack yoiur thread. but here is the other Movie Holster I got
it has my Gunslinger in it, but it screams for a '58 Navy. it is marked: Navy Yard Phila. I have the Frog's matching belt and cartridge pouch coming along with the black scarf worn with the Navy uniform in the movie.
Now i need the Coat, Shirt Cap and Trousers??? and boots??? I'd be only the second Navy man in the family then....

This is a faithful copy of an original Navy Frog,(what the Navy called their holsters), right down to the two holes in the strap to accomodate Colts and Remingtons.

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Old February 5, 2006, 09:50 PM   #13
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Thanks for the information, thanks for the pictures.

I need to make a holster for my Cimarron Firearms Co.
Model "P" Jr.
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/ModelPJr.htm

So I like seeing what you make and what you have.
You guys are a wealth of knowledge.
You make this my favorite forum.

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Old February 5, 2006, 10:18 PM   #14
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Tink, If I can ever help in any way just send me an email if you want and i'll sure try.

OD, Your not steeling my thread. The holster's is what it's all about and I for one wanted to see what you have ....you lucky old dog!!! Really nice holsters and a part of history.
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Old February 5, 2006, 10:22 PM   #15
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Hey Tink, That gun sure is purtty!
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Old February 6, 2006, 02:37 PM   #16
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Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on it sometime.
The same back at you, if I can ever be of some assistant
to you, please feel free to ask.

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“Hey Tink, That gun sure is purtty!”
If your talking about my Model "P" Jr. Your right. If you
like the feel and balance of the Colt 1851 and or the old
Colt lighting, then you would like it. It is about the same
size as the other two. I have not shot it yet, my arms and
hands need to work better first.

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I like your “Navy Frog”. I am curious if the front sight gives
you any trouble with that type of holster.
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Old February 6, 2006, 04:53 PM   #17
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Tinker2,
I don't know I haven't had it on and haven't drawn the gun from the frog.....LOL I Don't think it'll hang though, because it's wide and not form fit so it should not hangup...Guess We'll see.
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Old February 6, 2006, 06:41 PM   #18
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Soaking Leather

Remington kid,
I do leather work also, and I am curious about soaking in alcohol. I have always used water. Are there any disadvantages of alcohol?
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Old February 6, 2006, 07:00 PM   #19
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Soaking

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“I am curious about soaking in alcohol”
I use to drink a lot more then I do now but I never did soak in it.

Might make doing leather work a little more dangerous.
I don’t think you should play with anything sharp if you are going
to soak in alcohol.



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Old February 6, 2006, 07:57 PM   #20
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When I did leather in the past I always just used warm water but the guy who sent me this leather told me to try the rubbing Alcohol. It works great! Softened the leather real fast and dried faster than soaking in water.Can't say there was any drwbacks to useing it. I will use it again infact.Seemed to mold better and stay that way too.



Tinker2, Spent many nights with Chevis Regal when I had the money and was a little younger and "dumber". Haven't touched a drop in many years and don't miss it a bit, welll....not much anyway
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Old February 7, 2006, 10:50 AM   #21
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Thanks RK.

Tink, I was reading the threads about the movie props. I am just wondering if you are aware of some of the inovations since you were a young lad at the Saturday mattinee. For instance, movies have sound now.

BTW, I didn't know you drank until I saw you sober one day.
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Old February 7, 2006, 12:06 PM   #22
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Lol, Boy are you guy's showing your age now!! Wow, I still reme,ber before we had TV we would listen to the Lone Ranger on the radio and you felt like you were right there with him and Tonto.Also remember Amos and Andy, Only the shadow knows, Author Godfree, Grand Old Oprey. Then when TV came out it was Roy Rogers and Dale and Nelly-bell and Pat. The lone Ranger and Tonto, Hopp-a-Long Cassidy, Cissco and Pancho, Tex Ritter, Johnny MC Brown, the Rebel, Have gun will travel(Paliden), Gun Smoke, Wagon Train and Rowdy Yates (Clint Eastwood), Death Valley Days, Annie Oakley and Tad, Sons Of the Pioners, The Ponderosa and many many others. Life was great back then! I chased bad guy's through my back yard all day with my cap guns and cowboy hat.
I'm 59 and still have fond memories of Westerns we had on TV back then.
It's funny but I don't remember them showing any blood when someone got shot but you knew he was shot anyway. Now they feel that they need to show the blood spatter and pools of blood all over the ground to get that point accross. What a shame that today's kids can't enjoy a good shoot em up like we did without all the garbage.
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Old February 7, 2006, 03:04 PM   #23
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Don't forget Gunsmoke! I used to listen to it on the radio, too. Those spurs jingling on the boardwalks .......

SixForSure, I started using alcohol for leather shaping back in the 60s. It works better for me than water and dries in a fraction of the time. The only drawback I can think of is it costs more than water.


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Old February 7, 2006, 03:33 PM   #24
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You all forgot the Sat morn. serials The Three Mesquiteers(John wayne was Stoney Brooke) Don't remember who the other two wereBut I think they were later name actors.I got to see the Roy Rogers Museum before it left Apple Valley CA for the woods of MO. at branson. Also the Gene Autry Museum in Griffith Park is fantastic! and the Melody Ranch(what's left of it, that isn't housing developement) has a Cowboy Poetry Festival every spring. I'm going this year.
Lots of Movie hoistory nearby. The Movie Windtalkers I think, was filmed almost in it's intireity just south of Acton. A lot of the chase scenes of a lot od "B" movie Westernswhere the large rocks are slanted like giant pieces of flagstone in called Vasquez Rocks State Park and is just a few miles back torwards the San Fernando Valley in Aqua Dulce our neighbor town.
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Thanks Steve499. I am going to give it a try.

Does anybody remember Sgt Preston of the Yukon? ("And His Wonder Dog, King")
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