Italian Cap & Ball Maker Question

rrogers · December 30, 2011, 11:44 AM

I have an Italian made copy of a .44 blackpowder revolver.
I was told it was an "1861 Navy"
It has a navy scene on the cylinder
It is brass framed case hardened with what looks like a CSA on one side of the brass next to the grip, (the "S" is backwards)
The AE in the square box denotes a 1979 manufacture year.
It has "For blackpowder use only - made in Italy" on the barrel
The only possible manufacture mark is above the serial number - it is a circle with 3 letters starting with a "D" to the the right above is a "G" and then below the "G" is either another "G" or a "C".
Does anyone know who manufactured this?
I know what the Umberti, Pietta, and Army San Marco marks look like and it is not them.

Hawg · December 30, 2011, 12:43 PM

Armi san Paolo, later Euroarms

Doc Hoy · December 30, 2011, 03:06 PM

....and if it is .44 it is an 1860 and not an 1861.

Photos would be great.

Doc Hoy · December 30, 2011, 03:12 PM

BTW.....Welcome to the forum..

You came to the right place.

Hawg · December 30, 2011, 06:54 PM

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It is brass framed case hardened

How do you case harden brass?

December 30, 2011, 11:44 AM	#1
rrogers Junior Member Join Date: December 30, 2011 Posts: 2	Italian Cap & Ball Maker Question I have an Italian made copy of a .44 blackpowder revolver. I was told it was an "1861 Navy" It has a navy scene on the cylinder It is brass framed case hardened with what looks like a CSA on one side of the brass next to the grip, (the "S" is backwards) The AE in the square box denotes a 1979 manufacture year. It has "For blackpowder use only - made in Italy" on the barrel The only possible manufacture mark is above the serial number - it is a circle with 3 letters starting with a "D" to the the right above is a "G" and then below the "G" is either another "G" or a "C". Does anyone know who manufactured this? I know what the Umberti, Pietta, and Army San Marco marks look like and it is not them.

December 30, 2011, 03:06 PM	#3
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Right.... ....and if it is .44 it is an 1860 and not an 1861. Photos would be great. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

December 30, 2011, 03:12 PM	#4
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	RRogers BTW.....Welcome to the forum.. You came to the right place. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

December 30, 2011, 12:43 PM	#2
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Armi san Paolo, later Euroarms