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May 12, 2013, 06:51 PM | #1 |
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Biden: Opposing senators ‘have seen the Lord’ on gun control
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/20...d-gun-control/
This is a reminder to our membership that while we won the last battle, the campaign is still under way. Contact your representatives, particularly if you are represented by one of those currently under attack, and let them know you support their opposition to gun control. |
May 12, 2013, 07:31 PM | #2 |
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The comments section of that article may be the first time I've ever seen every single person agree on one thing with no downvotes of any comment. That's got to mean something
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May 12, 2013, 07:37 PM | #3 |
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This is for the VP. Joe , for what it's worth many of my Friends who voted for you state that they have also changed their minds too !
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May 12, 2013, 08:43 PM | #4 | |
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If I recall, 4 votes would not have changed the outcome of the last attempt at passing the background check bill. I also don't understand why they are pushing so hard for this when only a very small percentage of Americans feel that it should be a top political priority right now.
Edit: Found this on an old thread during the time of voting: Quote:
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May 12, 2013, 08:49 PM | #5 |
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I really just don't believe him. Why would any Senator want to redo the vote? Rehashing it would be no-win. They would have to go on the record again on a controversial (at best) issue, we're closer to election season, and the bill has zero chance in the House. So a couple Senators change their vote.
Much easier to double-talk your way around your vote during the campaign than go vote again and give the other side - whichever that is - more talking points to use against you. Last edited by Tom Servo; May 12, 2013 at 09:11 PM. |
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Last month, it was a bit risky to vote against S. 649. The pressure was on in the media in a way it won't be again. Honesty, if I were a politician who wanted gun control, my advice to Biden would be to let it go for now and wait for the next crisis to push it again.
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May 12, 2013, 09:14 PM | #7 |
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I've got to agree with what zoomie said as well. A re-vote would benefit no one and stand an even slimmer chance of passing once it moves on.
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May 13, 2013, 12:11 AM | #8 |
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Biden: Opposing senators ‘have seen the Lord’ on gun control
The stupid, it burns!!
By Nov 2014 many gun owners might otherwise forget the hubbub caused by gun grabber attempts this year. But Joey Two Shots seems determined to keep reminding us how desperately they want to take away our guns. Keep it up VP. |
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I think the national Democratic leadership is sending a message to their own troops, and the message is this: "If the President tells you to vote a certain way on a controversial issue, you had better fall in line, or be prepared for us to throw you under the bus [Edit... this is what happens when I post on a Monday...]
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May 13, 2013, 04:44 PM | #10 | |
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Ayotte is a Republican, so she would be a bad choice to throw under the bus to get Democrats in line
Biden has no shame. He is quite willing to lie openly for even minor reasons and even when it is widely apparent he is lying. So you kind of have to take what he says with a grain of salt. The only "No" vote I can see flipping is Reid who voted no for procedural reasons. Otherwise, no Senator is going to flip. If a Senator voted to ban firearms or magazines and then changed their vote before 2014, would you guve them a pass? Flipping now will only lose the support of gun owners without gaining any love from the antis. It is literally career-suicide. Biden should know this but I question whether he isn't senile. Quote:
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As such, he can peddle the gun-control agenda all he wants. It gets him attaboys from some of the folks in his camp, but in the balance of things, he can't really hurt his political chances more than he already has.
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May 13, 2013, 07:14 PM | #12 |
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I think part of the reason Biden is making noise about this is an attempt to divert attention away from three developing scandals -- Benghazi, IRS investigations, and, possibly, DOJ wiretaps of AP reporters. I know we don't do politics here so I'm not going to discuss those. I'm just pointing out that the administration has every reason to divert the press right now.
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May 14, 2013, 02:05 PM | #13 | |
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Biden opens mouth, lies come out.
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Unfortunately, there will most likely be another big horrible shooting and the person who perpetrates it will probably be very similar to most of the others. That's where the solution lays. The mentally ill/disturbed need to be kept away from guns and innocent people. If we don't offer up our own solution, next time it happens, they will scream at our side and say that we have done nothing and offered nothing and demand (unfortunately perhaps with the public's support) that we meet them "halfway" and agree to "common sense" gun control. |
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May 14, 2013, 05:47 PM | #14 |
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The tin-foil hat cynic in me worries that the next big tragedy is gonna be really soon, considering all of the flak the administration is getting from AP, IRS, and Benghazi.
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May 18, 2013, 12:05 AM | #15 |
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May 18, 2013, 08:25 AM | #16 |
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Foot in the Mouth Joe is just blowing smoke.
I am sure he doesn't know. Jerry
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