same caliber for handgun and rifle

jimmy1135 · October 17, 2012, 08:44 PM

I am looking for a handgun and rifle that uses the same caliber. I would like especially in the hand gun something I can handle. 9mm, .357 which caliber delivers the best knock down power. When we go up in the mountains wanted some kind of protection, using the same ammo for both guns, nice to have something if you get snowed in.

**Aguila Blanca** · October 17, 2012, 08:45 PM

.44 Magnum

Double J · October 18, 2012, 08:46 AM

Why?

RamItOne · October 18, 2012, 09:41 AM

Go with the hi point pistol and carbine, I believe you can have them both for 18 dollars American.

Are you wanting a range toy or possibly for SD/HD?

WW2 · October 18, 2012, 06:04 PM

There handguns and carbines are available in 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP.

Also, the carbine magazines can be used in the handguns (10 rounds). However, the handgun magazines cannot be used in the carbines (they are too short).

I wouldn't recommend the carbines for distances over 100 yards as the handgun bullets tend to drift offline a bit (at least with my 9mm).

Other than that, I really enjoy my Hi-Point C9 handgun and 995TS carbine!

Kreyzhorse · October 18, 2012, 07:53 PM

Quote:

I would like especially in the hand gun something I can handle. 9mm, .357 which caliber delivers the best knock down power.

No handgun round is going to give you knock down power.

SPEMack618 · October 18, 2012, 08:03 PM

From a historical standpoint, I'm a fan of the .44-40 in a Single Action Army and a Winchester '73.

Modern day, can't go wrong with a Marlin lever gun in .357 and a Ruger Red Hawk in .357.

Or even better, a Ruger Deerfield Carbine and a Ruger Red Hawk in .44 Magnum.

Arizona Smithshooter · October 18, 2012, 09:25 PM

I bought a Rossi 92 a couple of months ago and it's a great gun. I shoot my 38spl reloads in it. I also have a S&W 642 that shoots the same ammo. Shooting the .38's in the rifle is almost like shooting my .22....hardly any recoil. Shooting .357's makes it quite a bit louder with more felt recoil. The gun is very accurate out to 100 yards, which is about my limit for the stock iron sights. Mine is the short barrel with the large loop lever...perfect when ATV'ing out in the desert.

http://www.rossiusa.com/product-deta...adcrumbseries=

chadio · October 18, 2012, 10:55 PM

In 9mm: Beretta 92fs, Beretta CX4 Storm (set up for the 92 magazine)

Seems to me that would be a fun combination, same round, same magazine, etc.

possom813 · October 19, 2012, 12:35 AM

M1 Carbine and .30 cal Ruger Blackhawk

That's my suggestion, a little more than the Hi Point, but a little better round, in my opinion.

I'm not knocking the Hi Point Carbines in any way, I own a 9mm, and had the 9mm pistol, but it didn't fit my hand very well so I replaced it with another Ruger P89.

FloridaVeteran · October 19, 2012, 01:50 AM

.45. If you use lead bullets, you can not only load the 200 gr. RNFP .452 dia. into .45LC cases for both lever and pump rifles and a good variety of revolvers, you can load the same bullet into .45ACP.

So, you can have three very different guns eating the same bullet, powder and primer, assuming you stick to large-pistol primer brass for the 1911.

Sure, these loads are not the most powerful, but you can always pack along some potent store-bought or handloaded versions for any serious situations.

MLeake · October 19, 2012, 03:49 AM

Protection in the Colorado mountains?

From people, 9mm would be fine.

From cougars or black bear, 9mm would not be so great; .357 would be better; my personal choice would be .44 magnum.

Justice06RR · October 19, 2012, 04:57 AM

22lr ? LOL

Maybe a 40S&W pistol and Hi-point .40Carbine

Or my realistic suggestion is AR15 SBR in 300Blackout - would serve dual purpose and still have decent power and ballistics under 150yards.

Sparks1957 · October 19, 2012, 07:30 AM

I have a Ruger PC9 carbine to go with my 9mm pistols. I wouldn't count on the carbine for any duty out beyond 50-75 yards, or for any larger game animals, but for home defense it's a great little rifle. Rugged as hell.

Baba Louie · October 19, 2012, 08:09 AM

Traditional response to handle most things that could bite ya, for me, Win 94 Trapper in .45Colt along with Ruger SBH or Vaquero. .44 Mag or Spl is fine as well for most, as would be the .357 family.

Beretta, Hi Point, etc... sure, why not? With any of the choices, just know your limitations and the round/firearms of choice. I don't personally know about knockdown power, more about making holes in things where I want them, and I do believe in the "Bigger the Hole the Better" theory in this regard, myself. Up to a point.

Could also make do 99% of the time with a .22 tho, truth be told. Unless you rile up a moose or two. Most bears will scamper away, (spring time avoid/watch out for cubs w/ moms nearby), cats are cats. Know your bear etiquette when out and about (food storage when camping out, etc).

While I have yet to meet or run into a bad person or group thereof when out and about in the CO hills, I suppose they are out there, but most of the rest of the people I've ever encountered along any trails will gladly give you the shirt off their back if you need it. Except maybe for their guns. (those that do carry are just as polite as those who do not in my experience)

Beautiful country. When hiking there the past 10 years or so, I typically make do with a S&W 442 and it has never seen the light of day for reason of defense. Yet.

Hunting season is different.

Ridge_Runner_5 · October 19, 2012, 03:00 PM

M1 Thompson and 1911

landlord · October 19, 2012, 07:41 PM

I am thinking the Hi-point thought my self

drail · October 19, 2012, 07:44 PM

I have Winchester 94s in .357 and .44 Mag and mulitple revolvers in those calibers. Long gun + short gun - one load. Simple is good. And I was amazed at the accuracy of the Winchester in .357 out past 100 yards with the factory open sights. If I can see it I can usually hit it. It will throw a 180 gr. hard cast slug at close to 1500 fps. Recoil is not bad at all. No leading either. Makes a really handy compact deer rifle. For dangerous critters up in the mountains I would pick a .44 Mag. lever gun and a revolver to go with it.

Shotgun693 · October 19, 2012, 08:00 PM

Years ago I carried a S&W M28 and a Marlin Lever Action .357. Now I, at times, carry a Colt SAA and a '73 clone both in .45 Colt. I usually hunt with the revolver. My rifle holds 12 rounds and I never feel under armed with it. Oh, we don't have bears in South Texas. A cougar doesn't take a lot of killing, we do have plenty of those.

Ridge_Runner_5 · October 19, 2012, 08:30 PM

Beretta 92FS and CX-4

bikerbill · October 20, 2012, 07:30 AM

I bought a Hi-Point 9mm carbine last year, specifically so I could use commonly available ammo in both my EDC and in a long gun I might use for home defense ... I don't hunt, but certainly a 9mm round would be useful if I was ever forced to forage for food locally ... It's great, inexpensive gun, BTW; accurate and has suffered only a handful of failures and all of those were in the first hundred rounds or so ...

**4V50 Gary** · October 20, 2012, 07:55 AM

My combo would be a Marlin and S&W in 44 Mag.

JimPage · October 20, 2012, 08:37 AM

If I'm going to carry a rifle, I want one with more power. I just don't see the advantage to having rifle and pistol in same caliber other than for the novelty of it. In the old west it was logical to me. Not today. But whatever floats your boat.

Erno86 · October 20, 2012, 03:15 PM

My current **** weapon's, that I can carry concealed discreetly, in my large daypack: is my 9 mm 1911, or my 9mm Browning Hi-Power, with a 30 round magazine. My rifle: is a 16 inch barrel, with a ventilated barrel shroud --- British Stirling L2A3 --- semi auto --- Type 2 Carbine, folding stock --- along with a slew of 9mm 32 round Stirling magazines.

The folding stock...is a bit on the short side. But it is one of the most dependable and most expensively made, full auto machine guns ever produced. J&G Sales...sells the Stirling semi auto pistol and carbine line of weapons; for around $400.

You might want to check out KelTech's, 9mm carbine; but I still stand-by the Stirling as the best; cuz you can fire the Stirling with the stock folded --- but with the KelTech --- you cannot.

You can still buy a full auto 9mm Stirling for around $10,000 --- $15,000.

Edward429451 · October 21, 2012, 12:13 PM

Though the pistol caliber carbines are cool, in my opinion, the little practical advantage of common ammo in both guns is offset by the very real practical advantage of the increased power and utility of a(ny) rifle round. Carrying two types of ammo is not a significant problem, if at all. If I hadda get a pistol caliber carbine, make mine a 44 Mag which would be the most versatile of all of the pistol caliber carbines.

Unless they came out with a 50 AE carbine, then I might have to go hmmm.

October 17, 2012, 08:44 PM	#1
jimmy1135 Junior Member Join Date: April 16, 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 7	same caliber for handgun and rifle I am looking for a handgun and rifle that uses the same caliber. I would like especially in the hand gun something I can handle. 9mm, .357 which caliber delivers the best knock down power. When we go up in the mountains wanted some kind of protection, using the same ammo for both guns, nice to have something if you get snowed in. Last edited by jimmy1135; October 18, 2012 at 10:02 AM. Reason: explanation

October 18, 2012, 08:03 PM	#7
SPEMack618 Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2010 Location: Central Georgia Posts: 1,863	From a historical standpoint, I'm a fan of the .44-40 in a Single Action Army and a Winchester '73. Modern day, can't go wrong with a Marlin lever gun in .357 and a Ruger Red Hawk in .357. Or even better, a Ruger Deerfield Carbine and a Ruger Red Hawk in .44 Magnum. __________________ NRA Life Member Read my blog! "The answer to any caliber debate is going to be .38 Super, 10mm, .357 Sig or .41 Magnum!"

October 18, 2012, 10:55 PM	#9
chadio Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2011 Posts: 931	In 9mm: Beretta 92fs, Beretta CX4 Storm (set up for the 92 magazine) Seems to me that would be a fun combination, same round, same magazine, etc. __________________ Ex - Navy, Persian Gulf Veteran. Loved shooting the M14, 1911, M60, M2

October 19, 2012, 08:09 AM	#15
Baba Louie Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2001 Posts: 1,552	Traditional response to handle most things that could bite ya, for me, Win 94 Trapper in .45Colt along with Ruger SBH or Vaquero. .44 Mag or Spl is fine as well for most, as would be the .357 family. Beretta, Hi Point, etc... sure, why not? With any of the choices, just know your limitations and the round/firearms of choice. I don't personally know about knockdown power, more about making holes in things where I want them, and I do believe in the "Bigger the Hole the Better" theory in this regard, myself. Up to a point. Could also make do 99% of the time with a .22 tho, truth be told. Unless you rile up a moose or two. Most bears will scamper away, (spring time avoid/watch out for cubs w/ moms nearby), cats are cats. Know your bear etiquette when out and about (food storage when camping out, etc). While I have yet to meet or run into a bad person or group thereof when out and about in the CO hills, I suppose they are out there, but most of the rest of the people I've ever encountered along any trails will gladly give you the shirt off their back if you need it. Except maybe for their guns. (those that do carry are just as polite as those who do not in my experience) Beautiful country. When hiking there the past 10 years or so, I typically make do with a S&W 442 and it has never seen the light of day for reason of defense. Yet. Hunting season is different. __________________ A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington, January 8, 1790, First State of the Union Address

October 19, 2012, 07:44 PM	#18
drail Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2008 Posts: 3,150	I have Winchester 94s in .357 and .44 Mag and mulitple revolvers in those calibers. Long gun + short gun - one load. Simple is good. And I was amazed at the accuracy of the Winchester in .357 out past 100 yards with the factory open sights. If I can see it I can usually hit it. It will throw a 180 gr. hard cast slug at close to 1500 fps. Recoil is not bad at all. No leading either. Makes a really handy compact deer rifle. For dangerous critters up in the mountains I would pick a .44 Mag. lever gun and a revolver to go with it. Last edited by drail; October 19, 2012 at 07:51 PM.

October 17, 2012, 08:45 PM	#2
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	.44 Magnum

October 18, 2012, 08:46 AM	#3
Double J Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2007 Location: So. Illinois Posts: 547	Why?

October 18, 2012, 09:41 AM	#4
RamItOne Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Posts: 990	Go with the hi point pistol and carbine, I believe you can have them both for 18 dollars American. Are you wanting a range toy or possibly for SD/HD?

October 18, 2012, 09:25 PM	#8
Arizona Smithshooter Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2011 Location: Western Arizona Posts: 176	I bought a Rossi 92 a couple of months ago and it's a great gun. I shoot my 38spl reloads in it. I also have a S&W 642 that shoots the same ammo. Shooting the .38's in the rifle is almost like shooting my .22....hardly any recoil. Shooting .357's makes it quite a bit louder with more felt recoil. The gun is very accurate out to 100 yards, which is about my limit for the stock iron sights. Mine is the short barrel with the large loop lever...perfect when ATV'ing out in the desert. http://www.rossiusa.com/product-deta...adcrumbseries=

October 19, 2012, 12:35 AM	#10
possom813 Junior Member Join Date: October 18, 2012 Posts: 4	M1 Carbine and .30 cal Ruger Blackhawk That's my suggestion, a little more than the Hi Point, but a little better round, in my opinion. I'm not knocking the Hi Point Carbines in any way, I own a 9mm, and had the 9mm pistol, but it didn't fit my hand very well so I replaced it with another Ruger P89.

October 19, 2012, 01:50 AM	#11
FloridaVeteran Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2012 Location: Central Florida Posts: 399	.45. If you use lead bullets, you can not only load the 200 gr. RNFP .452 dia. into .45LC cases for both lever and pump rifles and a good variety of revolvers, you can load the same bullet into .45ACP. So, you can have three very different guns eating the same bullet, powder and primer, assuming you stick to large-pistol primer brass for the 1911. Sure, these loads are not the most powerful, but you can always pack along some potent store-bought or handloaded versions for any serious situations.

October 19, 2012, 03:49 AM	#12
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Protection in the Colorado mountains? From people, 9mm would be fine. From cougars or black bear, 9mm would not be so great; .357 would be better; my personal choice would be .44 magnum.

October 19, 2012, 04:57 AM	#13
Justice06RR Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2010 Location: Central FL Posts: 1,360	22lr ? LOL Maybe a 40S&W pistol and Hi-point .40Carbine Or my realistic suggestion is AR15 SBR in 300Blackout - would serve dual purpose and still have decent power and ballistics under 150yards.

October 19, 2012, 07:30 AM	#14
Sparks1957 Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,552	I have a Ruger PC9 carbine to go with my 9mm pistols. I wouldn't count on the carbine for any duty out beyond 50-75 yards, or for any larger game animals, but for home defense it's a great little rifle. Rugged as hell.

October 19, 2012, 03:00 PM	#16
Ridge_Runner_5 Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,925	M1 Thompson and 1911

October 19, 2012, 07:41 PM	#17
landlord Member Join Date: February 4, 2012 Posts: 71	I am thinking the Hi-point thought my self

October 19, 2012, 08:00 PM	#19
Shotgun693 Senior Member Join Date: September 3, 2011 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 959	Years ago I carried a S&W M28 and a Marlin Lever Action .357. Now I, at times, carry a Colt SAA and a '73 clone both in .45 Colt. I usually hunt with the revolver. My rifle holds 12 rounds and I never feel under armed with it. Oh, we don't have bears in South Texas. A cougar doesn't take a lot of killing, we do have plenty of those.

October 19, 2012, 08:30 PM	#20
Ridge_Runner_5 Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,925	Beretta 92FS and CX-4

October 20, 2012, 07:30 AM	#21
bikerbill Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2007 Location: Lago Vista TX Posts: 2,425	I bought a Hi-Point 9mm carbine last year, specifically so I could use commonly available ammo in both my EDC and in a long gun I might use for home defense ... I don't hunt, but certainly a 9mm round would be useful if I was ever forced to forage for food locally ... It's great, inexpensive gun, BTW; accurate and has suffered only a handful of failures and all of those were in the first hundred rounds or so ... __________________ "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." Albert Camus

October 20, 2012, 07:55 AM	#22
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,838	My combo would be a Marlin and S&W in 44 Mag. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 20, 2012, 08:37 AM	#23
JimPage Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2010 Location: Rome, NY Posts: 941	If I'm going to carry a rifle, I want one with more power. I just don't see the advantage to having rifle and pistol in same caliber other than for the novelty of it. In the old west it was logical to me. Not today. But whatever floats your boat. __________________ Jim Page Cogito, ergo armatum sum

October 20, 2012, 03:15 PM	#24
Erno86 Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2012 Location: Marriottsville, Maryland Posts: 1,739	My current **** weapon's, that I can carry concealed discreetly, in my large daypack: is my 9 mm 1911, or my 9mm Browning Hi-Power, with a 30 round magazine. My rifle: is a 16 inch barrel, with a ventilated barrel shroud --- British Stirling L2A3 --- semi auto --- Type 2 Carbine, folding stock --- along with a slew of 9mm 32 round Stirling magazines. The folding stock...is a bit on the short side. But it is one of the most dependable and most expensively made, full auto machine guns ever produced. J&G Sales...sells the Stirling semi auto pistol and carbine line of weapons; for around $400. You might want to check out KelTech's, 9mm carbine; but I still stand-by the Stirling as the best; cuz you can fire the Stirling with the stock folded --- but with the KelTech --- you cannot. You can still buy a full auto 9mm Stirling for around $10,000 --- $15,000. Last edited by Glenn E. Meyer; October 20, 2012 at 05:09 PM.

October 21, 2012, 12:13 PM	#25
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	Though the pistol caliber carbines are cool, in my opinion, the little practical advantage of common ammo in both guns is offset by the very real practical advantage of the increased power and utility of a(ny) rifle round. Carrying two types of ammo is not a significant problem, if at all. If I hadda get a pistol caliber carbine, make mine a 44 Mag which would be the most versatile of all of the pistol caliber carbines. Unless they came out with a 50 AE carbine, then I might have to go hmmm.