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October 8, 2012, 05:15 PM | #26 | |
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October 8, 2012, 09:54 PM | #27 |
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Whatever floats your boat. To each his own.
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October 8, 2012, 10:12 PM | #28 |
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I have been thinking about post this for a few days.....
If you bought and shot the rounds, then go ahead and scrap them. But, if these are shot by others, and someone else would have gatherd them up if you had not, then taking them to the scrapyard would be wrong. Its better to let someone else use them if you arent going to. Just my .02 |
October 8, 2012, 10:43 PM | #29 | |
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This is a good analysis of the problem in my mind. It's a variation of the problems of the Commons, i.e. no one and everyone owns the chestnuts in the village commons. If you spend the effort to pick up a bucket of nuts your labor makes them yours, and I cannot take them from your front doorstep just because "the chestnuts belong to everyone." But if you hoard the chestnuts needlessly, denying the rest of the village what were once common property that now goes to waste, then the whole village suffers. Now, I can't say if the OP is talking about his own brass or range brass. Doesn't matter; he knows that detail. I think it's pick up, though, reading it again. But I do think there is merit in dacaur's thinking. So, as an alternative to the labor issue in the original post, can you sell the 9mm and .40 without the cleanup, and expect the purchaser to do it themselves? Or is it just not a viable product? I see from the comments that other calibers are reasonable to clean and sell at a margin that's not a loss. MB Last edited by mrbatchelor; October 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM. |
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October 9, 2012, 06:03 AM | #30 |
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In all seriousness now, for most ranges I've shot at non-reloaders usually just have to leave their brass on the range floor where they fall if they want them reused. One of my favorite things is picking up after mall ninjas! Some clubs make their shooters pick up their own brass regardless and they may have a container set aside for it. Often these clubs sell the brass to support charity events or local youth shooting programs. If they don't, clubs are all too happy to have a volunteer help create such funding programs.
But it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me when someone would go to the trouble to pick up their brass at the range and bring it home for the sole purpose of throwing it in the trash. |
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The whole thing is a weird sort of circular argument based on arbitrary priorities that shift from one person to the next. It's not a matter of ethics. There's Right, there's Wrong and there's Opinion. This one is opinion. Don't assign "Right" and "Wrong" to arbitrary opinion.
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Well, all ethics is drawn from the "metaphysical omniscient" realm. We're just stuck trying to figure out how we are going to apply it (or whether it's even real) in this physical realm.
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My last response was merely a commentary on the observations of the poster just prior to me, not a moral castigation on the evils of "robbing the community at large." I can leave that propaganda exercise to the Stalinist in the government. And you are right; the whole thing can quickly degrade into a circular quagmire that becomes meaningless if you step back two paces. After all, once the brass is collected and brought home, it's private property. The owner can bury it in the back yard hoping it will sprout if he wants. None of us have any right to say a word about it so long as his actions aren't crossing the boundary of interfering with my rights or your rights or someone else's rights. (And I'm not willing to assert that collecting range brass steps on my rights if that brass didn't come out of my ejector.) But the question was asked. Several answers given. And I pointed out a parallel to a historic precedence that forms a piece of the underpinning of common law that is our shared heritage. Nothing more and nothing less. |
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