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May 26, 2010, 02:18 PM | #26 | |||
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Although i pretty much agree and my scatterguns simply have carry slings.
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May 29, 2010, 01:25 PM | #27 |
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isn't that better than having to fire your weapon ?,i thought(there i go ) that using any method but lethal ones would be better than a fatal one.
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May 29, 2010, 05:08 PM | #28 |
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More info needed
Mike,
In order for your question to be answered, you need to provide some more information. Depending on what you have, you may just be able to order one and screw it in yourself. -what shotgun do you own and is it threaded for choke tubes -if not, what breacher device are you interested in -do you have tha tools and capability to thread your own barrel -what is your budget for this project |
May 29, 2010, 07:18 PM | #29 |
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Mike,
The idea of installing & using a "toothy" breacher choke as a pain compliance device on a shotgun is ill-advised. You don't want to get that close unless you have no choice, distance is your friend. If you do find yourself forced into contact proximity, you do not want to be jabbing somebody in the chest or stomach with the end of a shotgun to persuade them to stop whatever it is that they're doing, or getting ready to do, to you. You get that close, you're essentially handing them your gun. A grab reaction is almost inevitable, at which point you find yourself wrestling for possession. Unless you're bigger, stronger, more pumped, or you've had some instruction on baton/long gun retention and recovery, you're quite likely to lose. If the situation indicates you having a shotgun in hand, it's use is as a firearm, not as a club or pain compliance device. You run the additional risk of not only losing the gun, but having it either fire accidentally during the scuffle or having it turned on you. One of the last things you ever want to do is put (or get) yourself into the position of wrestling with someone over a gun, of any type. Yes, a chest rake can work, but when would you use it? Unless you're in law enforcement & required to physically engage and subdue a subject in terminating the encounter, there's little other reason to do so, and for most situations the risks mentioned don't justify it. Denis |
May 29, 2010, 07:59 PM | #30 |
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Mike - if you are at the point in a situation where you have drawn a weapon, then worrying about a "non-lethal" injury is not advisable. If you are NOT in fear for your life or that of your family, then you have no business brandishing a gun. If you ARE in fear for your life, then you need to be prepared to use the deadly force to protect yourself and your family. If you are not ready to do that ( and no one can say they are), then perhaps not using the gun is a better alternative for you
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May 30, 2010, 10:45 AM | #31 |
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great insight!
thanks you two!,thats some sound advice never thought of that,i guess i should have put more thought into it before posting my question.many thanks.
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May 30, 2010, 07:05 PM | #32 |
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Good luck.
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