Holsters…looking for an in-depth conversation…in addition to the other current one

hjm · March 27, 2002, 12:50 PM

In the constant search for a well fitting, usable, comfortable, non-pants-pulling down holster, I have recently begun to investigate shoulder holsters. They seem to be one that would fit the above criteria, especially because I am 6’ 300 lbs. I would wear an undershirt, the holster, and then the normal shirt. I know this would render a fast draw impossible, but how important is that?

I really like the Milt Sparks Versa Max 2 for an IWB solution, but I am afraid it will be uncomfortable, and most importantly, it would probably pull my pants down. I just bought a special leather belt from Don Hume, so the belt is not the issue. Due to rotund shape, my pants seem to fall down regardless of how tight the belt is. I don’t want to have to keep pulling them up if I add a heavy gun.

BTW, I will need to conceal a SIG P226. And, I refues to buy 5 different holster before I get the right one. We gun enthusiasts must put our heads together to come up with a better way to get a god fitting holster!!

Please.. any in-depth experiences or solutions would be appreciated!
Thanks,

hjm

leadbutt · March 27, 2002, 03:21 PM

hjm,I'm built alot like you but find the shoulder holster uncomfortable, I carry a SIG 220 in 38 super.most of the problem i find even with the larger harness is the reach across my chest to the pistol butt, I have gone to carrying IWB or OWB with one of Rossen'smodel designed to fit between the belt and the pant,depending on the style of pants worn i use suspenders in addition to the belt

AK103K · March 27, 2002, 03:22 PM

hjm,
I have a holster that might work for you. Its a little different than a shoulder holster, and will definitely work better than a shoulder holster under your shirt. Its called the "Confidant Shirt Holster"
by Kramer Leather. Its basicly a undershirt with 2 holsters attached to it. I can conceal a Gov. Model 1911 with a double reload under a dress type shirt that is tucked in. No coat is necessary. I dont use it all the time as I prefer a IWB type holster, but it does offer options, especially for larger pistols. They recommend getting one size smaller for a better fit with the weight, which is what I did (med. instead of lg.) its snug on, but the gun doesnt flop around when it's in the holster. I can see where it might tend to move around if the shirt fit loosely.

Here's the address:

http://www.gokart.net/cgi-bin/store....id=%%cart_id%%

(its on the left side down towards the bottom.)

Nanaimo Barr · March 27, 2002, 06:27 PM

a pair of suspenders will make a world of difference.. I pack a Ruger P-95 and I'm about the same build as you (circumferencely challenged)

and have fun with them.. bright colours, stripes, paterns, and pins and so forth go nicley on them.

tonerguy · March 29, 2002, 04:41 PM

HJM,

If you'll email me at [email protected] I have a possible solution. I do think the Versamax is a good choice, BTW.

DBR · March 30, 2002, 01:56 AM

I'm not as rotund as some of you fellows but I'm not skinny either. My Solution after years of fighting with this same issue is:

Industrial strength suspenders and a relatively soft belt with an IWB. You don't need a hard belt if it is just keeping the IWB close to your body and not holding anything up. I like the Kramer IWB #3. You wear a tee shirt tucked into your pants under the suspenders. I like the "Coolmax" wicking type tee shirt. They don't get soggy. With suspenders you can wear the pants a bit loose for the IWB. Depending on the weather, you can wear a polo type shirt, sweat shirt or vest over this. If anyone asks "aren't you hot wearing that vest?" in warm weather, I just show a suspender and say "I don't like my suspenders to show".

March 27, 2002, 12:50 PM	#1
hjm Member Join Date: September 28, 2001 Posts: 38	Holsters…looking for an in-depth conversation…in addition to the other current one In the constant search for a well fitting, usable, comfortable, non-pants-pulling down holster, I have recently begun to investigate shoulder holsters. They seem to be one that would fit the above criteria, especially because I am 6’ 300 lbs. I would wear an undershirt, the holster, and then the normal shirt. I know this would render a fast draw impossible, but how important is that? I really like the Milt Sparks Versa Max 2 for an IWB solution, but I am afraid it will be uncomfortable, and most importantly, it would probably pull my pants down. I just bought a special leather belt from Don Hume, so the belt is not the issue. Due to rotund shape, my pants seem to fall down regardless of how tight the belt is. I don’t want to have to keep pulling them up if I add a heavy gun. BTW, I will need to conceal a SIG P226. And, I refues to buy 5 different holster before I get the right one. We gun enthusiasts must put our heads together to come up with a better way to get a god fitting holster!! Please.. any in-depth experiences or solutions would be appreciated! Thanks, hjm

March 27, 2002, 03:21 PM	#2
leadbutt Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2002 Location: Tidewater,Virginia Posts: 289	hjm,I'm built alot like you but find the shoulder holster uncomfortable, I carry a SIG 220 in 38 super.most of the problem i find even with the larger harness is the reach across my chest to the pistol butt, I have gone to carrying IWB or OWB with one of Rossen'smodel designed to fit between the belt and the pant,depending on the style of pants worn i use suspenders in addition to the belt __________________ "I am always willing to learn,but not always willing to be taught" Sir Winston Churchill

March 27, 2002, 06:27 PM	#4
Nanaimo Barr Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Location: North Idaho Posts: 1,024	a pair of suspenders will make a world of difference.. I pack a Ruger P-95 and I'm about the same build as you (circumferencely challenged) and have fun with them.. bright colours, stripes, paterns, and pins and so forth go nicley on them. __________________ "Question that Regulation, you might be suprised to find out it's Illegal"

March 29, 2002, 04:41 PM	#5
tonerguy Member Join Date: May 19, 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 90	Possible Solution HJM, If you'll email me at [email protected] I have a possible solution. I do think the Versamax is a good choice, BTW. __________________ www.TuckerGunleather.com [email protected] www.TuckerGunleatherBLOG.com

March 27, 2002, 03:22 PM	#3
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	hjm, I have a holster that might work for you. Its a little different than a shoulder holster, and will definitely work better than a shoulder holster under your shirt. Its called the "Confidant Shirt Holster" by Kramer Leather. Its basicly a undershirt with 2 holsters attached to it. I can conceal a Gov. Model 1911 with a double reload under a dress type shirt that is tucked in. No coat is necessary. I dont use it all the time as I prefer a IWB type holster, but it does offer options, especially for larger pistols. They recommend getting one size smaller for a better fit with the weight, which is what I did (med. instead of lg.) its snug on, but the gun doesnt flop around when it's in the holster. I can see where it might tend to move around if the shirt fit loosely. Here's the address: http://www.gokart.net/cgi-bin/store....id=%%cart_id%% (its on the left side down towards the bottom.)

March 30, 2002, 01:56 AM	#6
DBR Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Posts: 101	I'm not as rotund as some of you fellows but I'm not skinny either. My Solution after years of fighting with this same issue is: Industrial strength suspenders and a relatively soft belt with an IWB. You don't need a hard belt if it is just keeping the IWB close to your body and not holding anything up. I like the Kramer IWB #3. You wear a tee shirt tucked into your pants under the suspenders. I like the "Coolmax" wicking type tee shirt. They don't get soggy. With suspenders you can wear the pants a bit loose for the IWB. Depending on the weather, you can wear a polo type shirt, sweat shirt or vest over this. If anyone asks "aren't you hot wearing that vest?" in warm weather, I just show a suspender and say "I don't like my suspenders to show".