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August 30, 2008, 02:04 PM | #101 |
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Sorry David you missed my thread,i was being a smart butt.In my post i was trying to say you shouldn't have to give a warning,because when he broke in he didn't give a warning,and i'm not going to stand there and give the bad guy a cold beer.As far as i'm concerned he is armed and dangerous and thats all there is to it.As far as shooting If it's the middle of the day then i know my family is not there(good)if it's the middle of the night then i still know where my family is.I can monitor everything from my bedroom either by tv or by baby monitores in my kids room upstairs.Oh and i stand behind my decision to shoot if someone breaks in to my house in the middle of the night,they are not there for just my toaster and i sure aint goin to ask,again i'm not a command or rambo but hey they gave me no choice when they broke in.
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I would Say " STOP " that's all , as others have stated any other words or phrases may come back to bite you in the rear.. See " Talking to the Police "
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...53586646&hl=en Some others have said I would not want to shot or harm in any way [ para phasing ] taking my stuff.. How would you react to this hypothetically scenario? I walk up to your front Door broad daylight and ask you for your Gun collection , chances are you will say something to the effect of No ; most likely in a more colorfully language. I then just walk by you in to your home using no force and start to pick up your guns in a non threating manner , what will you do after all it is JUST property ? Last edited by emcs.security; August 30, 2008 at 05:29 PM. |
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Property isn't worth killing or dying for, my life and the lives of my family are worth dying for.
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August 30, 2008, 05:00 PM | #104 |
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1. Being this was a hypothetically scenario [just using guns as a example ] I can hypothetically carry a 300 lb safe !!
2. "Second, I'd call 911" that gives me time for a drink of some type and maybe a sandwich!! 3. "Third, I'd fight you if I thought I could " I'll sue you for Assault and Bodily Harm { my word against yours that you invited me into your home}!! $. "Fourth, I'd take pictures if I could, seriously," What are your pictures going to prove , that I help you move your safe some place[[ see #1 ]]!! ( I may break you camera with my appearance )!! |
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....you are free to change it into anything you'd like that I can not win. I will not kill for property. <<Period. End of Possibilities.>> If you walk out with my things. I have insurance. If you sue me. I have insurance. Police response time in my area is within 5 minutes for something like a burglary in progress. I'll have your image (video from security and hand held camera), I'll have a plate number, car description, I might even follow you. The sanctity of human life is not a value open to hypothetical what if statements. If you attempt to harm me or mine to degree that threatens our lives I WILL make you stop. Whether that means to the point of your death depends on your reaction to my attempts to make you stop. At that point it's your decision not mine.
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(video from security and hand held camera) been covered !! " I'll have a plate number, car description" stolen car!! "I might even follow you" You Should have added while on the phone with 911.. This one may be a little harder to over come without some fancy driving and some luck on my part!! |
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Good luck with my stuff. You're alive to enjoy it. I'm done here.
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I'm going to bend over and kick myself in the butt. To get back on track. Sometimes witnesses are people who are out of sight and can't see what's happening. I'd rather they heard me yelling at Bubba to "don't move", "drop your weapon", "stay away from me", etc. than to hear me swearing at him just before they hear the shots. |
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August 30, 2008, 07:32 PM | #109 |
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I apologize for my part in hijacking the thread
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I do cherish life. I KNOW that Jesus Christ died for EVERY soul that has ever lived and will ever live on this earth. So, every soul is precious to God. He gave His Son for us all. But, God also gave us the freedom of choice. He will not make us do what's right. He commands us to, but it's up to us if we do or not. We all make decisions. And, there are always consequenses to our decisions. Whether good or bad. You do not know the intent of someone that has invaded your home. Is your life or your family's lives worth taking a chance to find out? One thing for sure. If you take a criminal out, he will not do it again. And, maybe he will be an example to others who might be in the same line of "work"!
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An old WWII veteran once said, during a tv interview, that he didn't fight his way through France and witness the death of many a friend so his government could mandate that he submitt to robbery because it considered a criminals rights more important than his. In other words, Peezaakilla, it's a civil liberties issue, not a property vs. human life issue. My civil liberties were paid for in blood and so were yours. Such a requirement, IMO, amounts to tyranny and oppression, and spits on the graves of those who shed their blood for our freedom. Should burglary be a capital offense? No. And it's not. Peezakilla, I'd really like to think you aren't suggesting that a Homeowner who takes a burglar's life out of fear of his own isn't a sentence imposer, nor a self appointed judge and jury. Tell me you aren't. |
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Get off the "X", present and yell STOP!!! if they don't comply, stop them.
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My point is that an intruder in my home has gone far beyond just being a threat to my property. And there's still the civil liberties issue that only an oppressive government would violate by considering a criminal's rights more important than my own which, as already stated, have been paid for and, last I checked, still being paid for in places like Afghanistan and Iraq. |
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We all have to make a personal choice in how we react to this situation.I am sorry but i will not stand by idle while someone ransacks my home in the middle of the night or day.Warning or no warning i'll not clammer in the corner and hope for the best.
If what you say is true David then we should all give up our guns and flashlights,or better yet why even have locks on our doors or window shades.Its called privacy and i for one love mine.Enough of the poor pitiful thief speech.If will make you happy then i'll warn em when i cock the hammer back on my 357. Sorry but in the last 8 month i've had both my cars broken into 4 times,and my house was broken into as well.In all this i've had to replace my rag top,and cd player in my jeep along with a complete passanger side window motor kit for my other car.In my house i've had to replace window screens and a back room window, and 2 door locks.I have lost my sympothy for the criminal element and no they don't deserve any kind WARNING.Oh let me go on the record and say yes i'm moving just as soon as my transfer comes through. |
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It seems to me that we are about to wade in water we don't want to swim in.Lets just agree to disagree,shake hands and find a more intresting thread to post about like hunting or fishing.
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David, honestly, Your facts fly in the face of what has become the trend. Could your facts be some what dated??
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September 3, 2008, 10:43 AM | #124 |
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Have your way with the thread. I don't care.
The original question has long been answered.
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