What is your Garand load

bushmaster225 · October 27, 2001, 03:04 PM

I'm very new to reloading so my questions may sound a little dumb.

Is IMR4895 and H4895 the same pound with IMR and H being the different manufactures?

What is the load you shoot in your Garand?

Thanks for your help!

Archie · October 29, 2001, 02:09 AM

You are correct in the manufacturer part. IMR used to be Dupont, and H is Hodgdon.

They are not the same. Hodgdon is slower to some degree.

My best load for Garand (.308 Winchester) is 168 grain HPBT and IMR 4895, about a "middle" load.
For .30-06, the charge will be a little greater. Check your loading manual.

Gewehr98 · October 30, 2001, 02:24 PM

what was passed on to me as the old National Match load, a 168gr MatchKing, and 45.5 gr of IMR4895. Primers are Federal 210 Match, brass is Lake City '68.

As usual, work your way up to a given load, using a recent loading manual as a reference. But for the Garand, do stay with IMR 4895 or powders that duplicate it's burn rate, otherwise gas port pressures may be off enough to harm the oprod and action.

Bogie · October 31, 2001, 06:26 PM

Yow! That's a LOT of 4895!

DON'T USE THAT LOAD WITHOUT WORKING UP.

I'd get a box or three of 168 grainers, and start at about 40 grains or so...

sundog · November 1, 2001, 03:11 PM

bushmaster, several Garands I've shot like 47.0g IMR 4064 in LCNM cases and either 173 NM bullets or 168 NMHPs. In fact, my regular high power match shooter prefers this load over 4895. Also, you might consider a harder primer (I use CCI) to help guard against slam fires. NRA has a really good reprinted Rifleman articles M1 pamphlet that has lots of good stuff including some load information and accurizing tips. sundog

David Wile · November 1, 2001, 06:40 PM

Hey folks,

I have three Garands (two Springfields and a Win-13), and I have used a lot of different powders in all of them. I also use cast bullets as well as jacketed bullets in all three. I generally like to use the slower burning powders whether I am using cast or jacketed bullets. All three Garands shoot and function well, and I have never had to replace any op rod or other parts on them. Well, that is not quite true. On my one Springfield, the original barrel was opened somewhat at the muzzle, and it did not shoot as well as the others. After a lot of consideration, I finally replaced the original barrel with a new one, and it now shoots better than the other two. I could not bring myself to sell the original barrel, but it really does not make any sense to keep it. They are all great guns.

One further thing I might mention, is that I do not shoot hot loads in my Garands. I have used a lot of different powders, but I have started with low loadings and worked up to where the action functions reliably and the accuracy is best with whatever bullet I am using. My cast bullet is a Lyman Loverin gas check design that weighs about 152 grains. I generally use 150 to 165 grain FMJ-BT for jacketed bullets. In recent years, I have opted for the IMI Mil Spec bullets that are available at good prices.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile

NoSweat · November 2, 2001, 01:16 AM

47 to 48 gr of IMR 4064 behing a Sierra 168 seems to be the favorite load around here

Target Shooter · November 2, 2001, 09:52 PM

Gewehr98,
That's a very popular load you listed. 45.5 grains is what I shoot.

Bogie,
This load of 45.5 grains of IMR 4895 isn't hot at all. I know guys that shoot 47 grains.

Always check data you receive over the net and never start at max.

TS

October 27, 2001, 03:04 PM	#1
bushmaster225 Member Join Date: April 27, 2000 Location: Burlington, NJ Posts: 48	What is your Garand load I'm very new to reloading so my questions may sound a little dumb. Is IMR4895 and H4895 the same pound with IMR and H being the different manufactures? What is the load you shoot in your Garand? Thanks for your help!

October 29, 2001, 02:09 AM	#2
Archie Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2000 Location: Hastings, Nebrasksa - the Hear Posts: 2,209	They are sort of the same. You are correct in the manufacturer part. IMR used to be Dupont, and H is Hodgdon. They are not the same. Hodgdon is slower to some degree. My best load for Garand (.308 Winchester) is 168 grain HPBT and IMR 4895, about a "middle" load. For .30-06, the charge will be a little greater. Check your loading manual. __________________ There ain't no free lunch, except Jesus. Archie Check out updated journal at http://oldmanmontgomery.wordpress.com/

October 30, 2001, 02:24 PM	#3
Gewehr98 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2000 Location: Token Creek, WI Posts: 4,067	My two Garands like... what was passed on to me as the old National Match load, a 168gr MatchKing, and 45.5 gr of IMR4895. Primers are Federal 210 Match, brass is Lake City '68. As usual, work your way up to a given load, using a recent loading manual as a reference. But for the Garand, do stay with IMR 4895 or powders that duplicate it's burn rate, otherwise gas port pressures may be off enough to harm the oprod and action. __________________ "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Neural Misfires

October 31, 2001, 06:26 PM	#4
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Yow! That's a LOT of 4895! DON'T USE THAT LOAD WITHOUT WORKING UP. I'd get a box or three of 168 grainers, and start at about 40 grains or so... __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

November 1, 2001, 03:11 PM	#5
sundog Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 1999 Location: Green Country, OK Posts: 782	bushmaster, several Garands I've shot like 47.0g IMR 4064 in LCNM cases and either 173 NM bullets or 168 NMHPs. In fact, my regular high power match shooter prefers this load over 4895. Also, you might consider a harder primer (I use CCI) to help guard against slam fires. NRA has a really good reprinted Rifleman articles M1 pamphlet that has lots of good stuff including some load information and accurizing tips. sundog __________________ safety first

November 1, 2001, 06:40 PM	#6
David Wile Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 585	Hey folks, I have three Garands (two Springfields and a Win-13), and I have used a lot of different powders in all of them. I also use cast bullets as well as jacketed bullets in all three. I generally like to use the slower burning powders whether I am using cast or jacketed bullets. All three Garands shoot and function well, and I have never had to replace any op rod or other parts on them. Well, that is not quite true. On my one Springfield, the original barrel was opened somewhat at the muzzle, and it did not shoot as well as the others. After a lot of consideration, I finally replaced the original barrel with a new one, and it now shoots better than the other two. I could not bring myself to sell the original barrel, but it really does not make any sense to keep it. They are all great guns. One further thing I might mention, is that I do not shoot hot loads in my Garands. I have used a lot of different powders, but I have started with low loadings and worked up to where the action functions reliably and the accuracy is best with whatever bullet I am using. My cast bullet is a Lyman Loverin gas check design that weighs about 152 grains. I generally use 150 to 165 grain FMJ-BT for jacketed bullets. In recent years, I have opted for the IMI Mil Spec bullets that are available at good prices. Best wishes, Dave Wile

November 2, 2001, 01:16 AM	#7
NoSweat Member Join Date: July 23, 2001 Location: Missouri Posts: 16	47 to 48 gr of IMR 4064 behing a Sierra 168 seems to be the favorite load around here

November 2, 2001, 09:52 PM	#8
Target Shooter Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2000 Posts: 176	Gewehr98, That's a very popular load you listed. 45.5 grains is what I shoot. Bogie, This load of 45.5 grains of IMR 4895 isn't hot at all. I know guys that shoot 47 grains. Always check data you receive over the net and never start at max. TS

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