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July 19, 2012, 08:46 PM | #1 |
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Old double action, can't figure it out
Hello everyone, I have this old .32 caliber double action revolver that I can't seem to find any information on. No real distinct roll marks present, just the fancy looking medallion on both grips. Gun has a serial number. Any information would be great.
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July 19, 2012, 08:59 PM | #2 |
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well it's obviously smith and wesson but it is one of the oddest designs I've ever looked at.
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July 19, 2012, 09:44 PM | #4 |
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I stand corrected.
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July 19, 2012, 10:14 PM | #5 |
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(Edit): Correction: It is not an H&R derivative as I first thought, but rather an Andrew Fyrberg revolver, although I have only seen external hammer Fyrbergs. The grip logo is "A F Co."
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July 19, 2012, 10:33 PM | #6 |
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If you ask me and I know you didn't, it's Spanish.
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July 19, 2012, 10:37 PM | #7 |
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It's not Spanish. Andrew Fyrberg had a factory in Mass, then later sold all his holdings to Meriden. The logo is definitely Fyrberg
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July 20, 2012, 05:39 AM | #8 |
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A F Co, a low cost S&W clone of the top break models. There were numerous manufacturers of knock-off revolvers back in the day. Great wall hanger.
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July 20, 2012, 10:17 PM | #9 |
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Actually, Fyrberg guns were on a par, quality-wise, with Iver Johnson and H&R revolvers. Not necessarily top quality like a Colt or Smith, but certainly adequate for their day.
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July 20, 2012, 10:23 PM | #10 |
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Andrew Fyrberg it is. The revolvers were made by Meriden. There is actually little in common with S&W revolvers except general exterior appearance.
Fyrberg is best known as a designer for Iver Johnson, most notably of the "Hammer the Hammer" safety device, the first transfer bar revolver safety. He also designed, in a less glorious moment, the Davis Warner "Infallible" pistols. Those revolvers resemble the "Secret Service Special" revolvers also made by (among others) Meriden, and also a resemblance to the U.S. Revolver Co. hammerless, made by IJ. I have not found what connection, if any, there was between Iver Johnson and production of the revolver bearing Fyrberg's name. Jim |
July 20, 2012, 10:51 PM | #11 |
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Good thing nobody asked me.
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July 21, 2012, 05:46 AM | #12 |
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"There is actually little in common with S&W revolvers except general exterior appearance."
And, to my eye, there's virtually no commonality with the appearance of the S&Ws at all. Except for the fact that both have a grip, both have a trigger, and both have a barrel.
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I was not able to confirm that, but it could well be correct, or someone else (IJ?) might have made the guns for him. I have not been able to determine the connection here, but Fyrberg certainly had a long association with IJ, either as an employee or as an independent inventor.
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July 24, 2012, 08:51 AM | #16 |
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Thanks for all the info!
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Those old top-breaks were the beginning of my education. Never saw a hammerless model in my youth, but those guns were plentiful.
Most were not marked and were sold through hardware dealers or other outlets, often times as promotional items. Many were made by Marlin that I know of, also many imports from Spain and Belgium. They were bought used from second hand stores or junk shops. We had no idea they were dangerous to shoot and fixed them up and shot them anyway. My wife says I had a guardian angel. Bob Wright |
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While many companies made top breaks, (hinge on bottom, a better design than a tip up) S&Ws were the most famous. Here is one on top, a S&W 38 SA 1st model "baby russian" with a merwin and hulbert twist open below it. Marlin did however make a top break (the model 1880 IIRC), and they are fairly rare. Cal 38 S&W. Essentially a S&W 38 DA copy. Here is the Marlin, top, (not mine) and one of my S&W 38 DAs bottom. Pretty much the same. I would like to own one of these 38 DA marlins if anyone has one. I also am looking for a Marlin 38 standard if anyone has one or knows where one is.
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