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June 26, 2009, 09:27 PM | #1 |
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Positive article on TX Campus Carry
Although it never came to a vote in the House, it's good to hear exactly where our local Rep. stands on the issue.
“When people look past the misinformation on this bill, you see that this is a well thought out piece of legislation that will further enhance public safety and deter against acts of violence on our college campuses. My daughters will be in college one day, and I would not have supported this bill if I thought it was bad policy that would put them or other Texas children in harm's way,” said Representative Parker. Complete article at http://thenewsconnection.com/article...ommittee/32750 Last edited by Al Norris; June 26, 2009 at 09:46 PM. Reason: Corrected Link |
June 26, 2009, 09:41 PM | #2 |
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I don't buy the rationale, and I don't thing concealed carry on campus necessarily improves safety or deters violence. Less guns among binge-drinking college kids seems like a better idea, versus more guns. YMMV...
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June 26, 2009, 09:51 PM | #3 |
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Evidently a victim of some of the "misinformation" mentioned in Parker's first quote.
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June 26, 2009, 10:22 PM | #5 |
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Emotional scare tactics. "Binge drinkers" do not fit that attempted "profile".
“In order to receive a concealed handgun license in Texas, a citizen must be 21 years old, have an impeccable background ... " Looks like mod got link adjusted to "take". (thanks.) |
June 26, 2009, 10:31 PM | #6 |
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The idea that less guns equals less crime hasn't been the case in Utah, Blue Ridge Community College, or Colorado State University. There hasn't been a single CCW/university incident at any of those schools. |
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June 26, 2009, 11:31 PM | #8 |
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One student killed out of how many? Every death is a tragedy, yet law based on isolated incidents is often bad law.
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http://students.wisc.edu/pdf/campus%...%202008-09.pdf It's not just murder. There's also armed robbery, rape, domestic violence, etc. Most of the increased armed robbery last year occurred to students walking from campus to Greek Row which is adjacent to campus. Keep in mind that not all students are on campus or live there. Even if CCW didn't help a single person I would still want it. My rights shouldn't by shorted because I want to get an education or work for a university. Legal CCW on campus hasn't hurt a single person (not even a suicide), so I can't see any reason to disallow it. There were 6 forcible sex offenses on campus (4 of which happened in dorms) and 3 on property next to campus, 5 robberies (1 in the dorms), 9 aggravated assaults (2 in the dorms) and 13 on property next to campus. Would CCW have helped in those situations? Maybe. We'll never know. Last edited by chemgirlie; June 26, 2009 at 11:52 PM. Reason: forgot to c/p and typo |
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"Plus, your clarification of shooters being "21 and over" means it eliminates almost everyone who lives on campus."
But it does include ALL who have taken necessary training, been fingerprinted with FBI check, supplied references, paid local fees and any other hoops they can think of. What makes the difference where one lives if they want to defend themselves?? |
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I'm a 24 year old man. I work full time as an electrician. I've had a license to carry a concealed pistol since the day I turned twenty-one. I don't binge drink. Oh, and I'm also in college. Any reason you can give me that I should have to leave my pistol in the car when I attend class? And I mean reasons that don't depend on more idiotic generalizations.
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June 27, 2009, 09:46 AM | #16 |
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We have discussed this before. I strongly caution posters - see my editing - that if you resort to insults - you can go elsewhere.
The discussion of whether the characteristics of the student population is a risk increaser is legit but should be based on facts. Really, truly annoyed. GEM
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June 29, 2009, 08:15 PM | #17 |
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They are adults with CHL licenses, who have gone through the effort to carry legally. Why should campus property lines change their trustworthiness?
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Just playing devil's advocate here.
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Why do car insurance rates drop dramatically for a 25 year old man, but a female gets the rate drop at 21?
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BTW, what was the cost/benefit analysis of a 21 YO male driver?
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