What kind of hand gun would you like to see produced? - Page 7

bluetopper · August 24, 2013, 11:04 AM

Would like to own a 223 revolver if anyone can make it freely functionable and cost effective.

EnoughGUN · August 24, 2013, 09:44 PM

Power 5 look up radetec and round counter. Com one is a mag base plate with a displayand the other grips with a display on the side.
Bill, many electronic devices now run on small lithium ion batteries that last months easily. A counter could draw milliwatts and only be on when in use. A button cell could last all year or longer depending on use.

BillCA · August 25, 2013, 10:27 AM

EonughGun - I'm well aware of the long shelf life of Lithium batteries. But for items that may sit for a long time in a safe you don't want to find out that its reached its end-of-life when you decide to use it. Sure, it'll be just another maintenance item, but I've also had batteries go bad in as little as six months (leakage).

Electronics are fine for ancillary items but not for "mission critical" duty like ignition of the cartridge (including allowing access to fire the gun). That's my 2¢ worth and I'm sticking to it.

fallingrock71 · August 25, 2013, 04:09 PM

I've never been a fan of electronics on guns. I just thought of another reason why. What about an emp burst from a nuclear explosion or from solar activity? Sure neither happens often but that is a scenario in which you would likely need a functioning gun. Emp from a nuke may never happen or it could happen today. Emp from the Sun WILL happen. Just a matter of time.

Just something to think about that's all.

Boarhunter · August 26, 2013, 10:36 AM

I would like to see a better variety of (reliable) .22 LR pistols in small and medium formats. The Browning 1911 .22 is nice and getting at what I would like to see, but the guns need sights that us ol' guys can see.

And if anyone could just design a reliable double-stack .22 LR magazine....

Boarhunter

more_bullets · August 27, 2013, 07:31 PM

A modern top break revolver in .45 acp and another in .357 mag. with a 5 inch barrel! I believe the Russians started designing one and only got to the prototype phase...

JawjaBoy · August 28, 2013, 01:23 AM

Lemme see, what would I love to see available?

Ruger 1911 Longslide 10mm. Would make an awesome hunting auto. I'd even take a Taurus.

Dan Wesson to bring back their revolvers, from .22 to .445, and at a price south of $1000.

Ruger to bring back the Maximum frame size and offer it in blue or stainless.

A factory 1911 in .460 Rowland.

Companies offering blued guns to go back to the old Royal and Brite blue finishes.

black mamba · August 28, 2013, 03:25 PM

I'd like to see a 5-shot S&W L-frame in 41 Special, with light weight 4" barrel.
A 170 gr JHP at 1200 fps, or a 200 gr WFN-GC at 1150 fps would be a great sidearm.

BillCA · August 28, 2013, 11:01 PM

Quote:

I'd like to see a 5-shot S&W L-frame in 41 Special, with light weight 4" barrel.
A 170 gr JHP at 1200 fps, or a 200 gr WFN-GC at 1150 fps would be a great sidearm.

The old .41 Colt cartridge was considered (By Elmer Keith no less) to be a more effective man stopper than any .38 Special and better than its paper ballistics would indicate.

The .41 Colt pushed a 200gr LFP between 620-700 fps.

The .41 Special doesn't (yet) have a standardized length. Some trim brass to 1.160 and others 1.150". Yet, mild loads from 800-1100 fps can be had with a 215gr LSWC (and with much better accuracy than the .41 LC). Oddly, in my experience (as well as a few others) simply "lightly loading" the .41 Mag brass down to 800 fps results in poor bullet stability... until the brass is trimmed to the shorter "Special" lengths. Go Figure.

I think the problem is convincing anyone that (a) the .41 Special is needed, (b) that people will buy it and (c) someone will make a quality gun for it.

We've seen some cartridges come and either fade from interest (.32 H&R Mag, .357 Maximum, etc.) or just downright die on the vine (9mm Federal). These cost the ammo and gun companies considerable sums of money. Making the argument that this is somehow "better" than the nearly ubiquitous .40 S&W will be difficult.

That said, I could see a Charter Arms Bulldog rechambered in .41 Special being a bit of fun.

WIN1886 · August 30, 2013, 05:03 PM

A S&W Pro Series N framed .44 special with 4 " barrel and non-pinned interchangeable front sight ( like on model 627 ) !

Sig P220 made with a blued carbon steel frame and slide....a carbon steel 1911 .45 acp model by Sig as well !

eviltravis · August 30, 2013, 05:06 PM

I would like to see Walther build a P99 with the PPQ frame.

Dragger34 · August 31, 2013, 07:31 PM

A 99-100% reliable full-size .45 1911 with rail, double stack, extended mag carrying 15-17 rounds(I don't care if the mag sticks out a bit) for under $800. It would be the perfect home-defense weapon for me.

Flat black with VZ grips, compensator, and if possible a red dot sight

keithdog · September 1, 2013, 02:05 PM

One day I would love to see a Glock model 26 in a single stack version. That to me would be a must have, and no doubt many others would feel the same way. I hear there is rumor going around it might happen.

rrockefe · September 1, 2013, 07:20 PM

I just want a current production 9mm revolver. Either J or K frame 6 shot.

Mystro · September 1, 2013, 07:30 PM

I want a Sig Sauer P-series 10mm. I also want a PPQ in 10mm.

BillCA · September 1, 2013, 08:14 PM

Now that polymer frames are popular, H&K should revisit their excellent HK-4 pistol and update it with a polymer frame. Bring it back with the same ability to change calibers as it had in the 70's.

This kit included barrels for .22, .25, .32 and .380, plus a magazine for each. Cost reductions by using a poly frame and magazines might make this affordable for some enthusiasts. For a less expensive package, adding a .22 conversion to the .32 or .380 pistols would be cool. These were nice pistols, if a bit large for a "pocket" gun by today's standards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrockefe

I just want a current production 9mm revolver. Either J or K frame 6 shot.

Charter Arms Pitbull 9mm

Charter Arms Pitbull .40 S&W

Before getting too excited, you might want to read the write up by Mark Wynn here.

rrockefe · September 2, 2013, 11:58 PM

Before getting too excited, you might want to read the write up by Mark Wynn here.

Thanks for the input. I thought they stopped production on 9mm.

BillCA · September 3, 2013, 05:38 AM

rrock - still listed on their website. For whatever that's worth!

WIN1886 · September 3, 2013, 03:26 PM

Quote:

I want a Sig Sauer P-series 10mm.

Ooh yeah !

sserdlihc · September 3, 2013, 04:47 PM

Walther P99 in 45acp.

kozak6 · September 4, 2013, 05:20 AM

I love the super sharp grip angles.

Think something like the Detonics DTX. Except in production. And reasonably priced.

Hitme · September 4, 2013, 06:49 PM

An SP-101 or GP-100 in 45 ACP. Bring back the PC-x carbine in .45 ACP. And I would like to see a GP-100 in .44 spl and .45 Colt.

Hans · September 4, 2013, 09:17 PM

Easy - a single stack Glock, small enough for a pocket.

BillCA · September 6, 2013, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Easy - a single stack Glock, small enough for a pocket.

Let's see... Glock already makes the G-28 in .380, but it's not single stack.

Kel-Tec, Ruger, et al, already do well in the small .32/.380 pocket pistol market. Do we really need another polymer .32 or .380?

So... a "baby" Glock for .25 Auto?
At least that'd be something "new".

August 24, 2013, 09:44 PM	#152
EnoughGUN Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2009 Posts: 538	Round counter Power 5 look up radetec and round counter. Com one is a mag base plate with a displayand the other grips with a display on the side. Bill, many electronic devices now run on small lithium ion batteries that last months easily. A counter could draw milliwatts and only be on when in use. A button cell could last all year or longer depending on use. __________________ GLOCK Austrian for Lemming

August 25, 2013, 10:27 AM	#153
BillCA Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, Ca Posts: 7,117	EonughGun - I'm well aware of the long shelf life of Lithium batteries. But for items that may sit for a long time in a safe you don't want to find out that its reached its end-of-life when you decide to use it. Sure, it'll be just another maintenance item, but I've also had batteries go bad in as little as six months (leakage). Electronics are fine for ancillary items but not for "mission critical" duty like ignition of the cartridge (including allowing access to fire the gun). That's my 2¢ worth and I'm sticking to it. __________________ BillCA in CA (Unfortunately)

August 25, 2013, 04:09 PM	#154
fallingrock71 Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2008 Location: OK Posts: 109	I've never been a fan of electronics on guns. I just thought of another reason why. What about an emp burst from a nuclear explosion or from solar activity? Sure neither happens often but that is a scenario in which you would likely need a functioning gun. Emp from a nuke may never happen or it could happen today. Emp from the Sun WILL happen. Just a matter of time. Just something to think about that's all. __________________ "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." ~Thomas Jefferson

August 31, 2013, 07:31 PM	#162
Dragger34 Member Join Date: July 25, 2013 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 89	A 99-100% reliable full-size .45 1911 with rail, double stack, extended mag carrying 15-17 rounds(I don't care if the mag sticks out a bit) for under $800. It would be the perfect home-defense weapon for me. Flat black with VZ grips, compensator, and if possible a red dot sight __________________ Always best to have and not need than to need and not have. Last edited by Dragger34; August 31, 2013 at 07:37 PM.

September 1, 2013, 07:30 PM	#165
Mystro Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 1,528	I want a Sig Sauer P-series 10mm. I also want a PPQ in 10mm. __________________ "I'm a good guy with a gun" What do I care if I give up some freedom or rights?....The Goverment will take care of me. This kind of thinking is now in the majority and it should concern you. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what free entitlements you can bleed from your country"

August 24, 2013, 11:04 AM	#151
bluetopper Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2005 Location: Northeast TX Posts: 1,197	Would like to own a 223 revolver if anyone can make it freely functionable and cost effective.

August 26, 2013, 10:36 AM	#155
Boarhunter Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2005 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 526	I would like to see a better variety of (reliable) .22 LR pistols in small and medium formats. The Browning 1911 .22 is nice and getting at what I would like to see, but the guns need sights that us ol' guys can see. And if anyone could just design a reliable double-stack .22 LR magazine.... Boarhunter

August 27, 2013, 07:31 PM	#156
more_bullets Member Join Date: January 10, 2013 Posts: 67	A modern top break revolver in .45 acp and another in .357 mag. with a 5 inch barrel! I believe the Russians started designing one and only got to the prototype phase...

August 28, 2013, 01:23 AM	#157
JawjaBoy Member Join Date: August 21, 2013 Posts: 56	Lemme see, what would I love to see available? Ruger 1911 Longslide 10mm. Would make an awesome hunting auto. I'd even take a Taurus. Dan Wesson to bring back their revolvers, from .22 to .445, and at a price south of $1000. Ruger to bring back the Maximum frame size and offer it in blue or stainless. A factory 1911 in .460 Rowland. Companies offering blued guns to go back to the old Royal and Brite blue finishes.

August 28, 2013, 03:25 PM	#158
black mamba Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2011 Location: SW Florida Posts: 890	I'd like to see a 5-shot S&W L-frame in 41 Special, with light weight 4" barrel. A 170 gr JHP at 1200 fps, or a 200 gr WFN-GC at 1150 fps would be a great sidearm.

August 30, 2013, 05:03 PM	#160
WIN1886 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 604	A S&W Pro Series N framed .44 special with 4 " barrel and non-pinned interchangeable front sight ( like on model 627 ) ! Sig P220 made with a blued carbon steel frame and slide....a carbon steel 1911 .45 acp model by Sig as well !

August 30, 2013, 05:06 PM	#161
eviltravis Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2001 Location: montana Posts: 283	I would like to see Walther build a P99 with the PPQ frame.

September 1, 2013, 02:05 PM	#163
keithdog Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2013 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 321	One day I would love to see a Glock model 26 in a single stack version. That to me would be a must have, and no doubt many others would feel the same way. I hear there is rumor going around it might happen.

September 1, 2013, 07:20 PM	#164
rrockefe Member Join Date: August 15, 2007 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 42	I just want a current production 9mm revolver. Either J or K frame 6 shot.

September 2, 2013, 11:58 PM	#167
rrockefe Member Join Date: August 15, 2007 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 42	Before getting too excited, you might want to read the write up by Mark Wynn here. Thanks for the input. I thought they stopped production on 9mm.

September 3, 2013, 05:38 AM	#168
BillCA Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, Ca Posts: 7,117	rrock - still listed on their website. For whatever that's worth! __________________ BillCA in CA (Unfortunately)

September 3, 2013, 04:47 PM	#170
sserdlihc Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2008 Location: S.C. Posts: 1,454	Walther P99 in 45acp. __________________ Familiarity breeds contempt, while rarity wins admiration. Aupleius If someone doesn't like you, that's their problem! Milton Childress

September 4, 2013, 05:20 AM	#171
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	I love the super sharp grip angles. Think something like the Detonics DTX. Except in production. And reasonably priced.

September 4, 2013, 06:49 PM	#172
Hitme Member Join Date: September 14, 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 56	An SP-101 or GP-100 in 45 ACP. Bring back the PC-x carbine in .45 ACP. And I would like to see a GP-100 in .44 spl and .45 Colt.

September 4, 2013, 09:17 PM	#173
Hans Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Location: Montana Posts: 421	Easy - a single stack Glock, small enough for a pocket. __________________ G26, Ruger LCP Ruger 10/22, Wyndham AR-15 5.56x45 Savage 111 LWH .270 Win. Without the 2nd Amendment, none of the others would exist.

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