The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Art of the Rifle: Bolt, Lever, and Pump Action

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old November 7, 2012, 08:27 PM   #1
sharpie443
Member
 
Join Date: March 25, 2012
Posts: 80
Nazi Stamped Colt Model 57 in 30-06

Got my hands on a very interesting Rifle. I don't know much about this rifle other than it's called "The Colt 57.". It's a K98 FN receiver with Nazi markings and a 30-06 Jefferson Barrel. I did a bit of poking around but i couldn't find anymore info on this gun. Regardless it's interesting and seems to be a good shooter so far. Hope you enjoy the video. If you have any info on the rifle let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMs4R...&feature=inbox
sharpie443 is offline  
Old November 7, 2012, 09:56 PM   #2
1 old 0311-1
Junior member
 
Join Date: November 5, 2012
Posts: 89
Pretty cool. I would be in also.
1 old 0311-1 is offline  
Old November 7, 2012, 10:24 PM   #3
RJay
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 2, 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,936
The Colt Model 57 was marketed in the late 50's ( I believe ). 5000 were made in 30-06 and .243. It was a FN Mauser action and Jefferson barrel. It was manufactured by Jefferson Manufacturing in Hartford, CT. It was a private label that Colt sold under their name. I'm rather intrigued by the Nazi markings since the gun was built in the U.S. long after the collapse of the Third Reich and contains no German parts. It does have a Mauser action, but it is not a German Mauser action but rather a Belgium made Mauser action (FN). Can you show a picture of the " Nazi " markings? I just looked at your You Tube. That is not a Colt Model 57, it is a WWII K 98 action with a Colt marked ( Jefferson ) barrel. Some time in the past someone decided to change the barrel on a Colt Model 57, the left over barrel was then used to make your rifle.You have a nice rifle and it should shoot well but unfortunately it is a mix-master, not a Jefferson Colt, sorry about that.
__________________
Ron James

Last edited by RJay; November 7, 2012 at 10:33 PM.
RJay is offline  
Old November 7, 2012, 11:56 PM   #4
RC20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 10, 2008
Location: Alaska
Posts: 7,014
An interesting gun and someone learning about it.

note: the post that was nasty was removed, so you can ignore the following comment, I will leave it here as an example of how I think it should be responded to. I don't think any of us should tolerate that and should call them on it.


If you don't have anything to add, then don't add anything.

Last edited by RC20; November 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM.
RC20 is offline  
Old November 8, 2012, 01:41 AM   #5
emcon5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 10, 1999
Location: High Desert NV
Posts: 2,850
The "42" on the receiver is the factory code for Mauser AG Oberndorf, and 1939 is the date of manufacture.

The three eagles on the right side are Waffenamts, inspection/proof marks.

Interesting rifle.

<...>

On edit, are there any eagles or numbers on the bolt? It would be interesting if is a numbers matching receiver and bolt.

Last edited by Art Eatman; November 9, 2012 at 08:56 AM. Reason: Response to noise.
emcon5 is offline  
Old November 8, 2012, 07:43 PM   #6
sharpie443
Member
 
Join Date: March 25, 2012
Posts: 80
Quote:
On edit, are there any eagles or numbers on the bolt? It would be interesting if is a numbers matching receiver and bolt.
Yes the serial numbers on the bolt match the receiver. The magazine plate and trigger guard do as well. They also have a number of insignia on them.
sharpie443 is offline  
Old November 8, 2012, 09:57 PM   #7
RJay
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 2, 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,936
A Model 57 is really nothing special ( in my opinion ) it is not even a real Colt. Now that 1939 K98 , in good condition and original, would probably beat out the 57 in an auction by a couple of hundred bucks. Oh, if I only had a time machine to correct all the wrongs committed in the past.
__________________
Ron James
RJay is offline  
Old November 8, 2012, 10:08 PM   #8
DPris
Member Emeritus
 
Join Date: August 19, 2004
Posts: 7,133
Many people mistake eagle proof stamps for Nazi markings.
An eagle isn't necessarily Nazi.
Denis
DPris is offline  
Old November 9, 2012, 12:08 AM   #9
sharpie443
Member
 
Join Date: March 25, 2012
Posts: 80
It looks like there is a swastika bellow the eagle. I'm pretty sure it's nazi.
sharpie443 is offline  
Old November 9, 2012, 12:19 AM   #10
RJay
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 2, 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,936
It is, there is no mistaking the markings. You still got a good rifle, Many a custom rifle has been built on a K98 action, however most times the markings have been scrubbed.
__________________
Ron James
RJay is offline  
Old November 9, 2012, 08:15 AM   #11
Kreyzhorse
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 12, 2006
Location: NKY
Posts: 12,463
I agree that it is Nazi marking on the action. Looks like you have an interesting mix master rifle there.
__________________
"He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson
Kreyzhorse is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.06870 seconds with 10 queries