rules of gunfight - Page 4

oldcspsarge · March 8, 2009, 09:01 PM

IF you you know you are going to a gunfight...and brought a pistol...you didn't plan well !

xtremehunter83 · March 8, 2009, 10:28 PM

pasted from another forum

noticed some were posted like this but i didnt feel like deleting same ones out so bare with me

Drill Sergeant Joe B. Fricks Rules For A Gunfight

1. Forget about knives, bats and fists. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring four times the ammunition you think you could ever need.

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap - life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap - funerals are expensive

3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.
4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.

5. Move away from your attacker and go to cover. Distance is your friend. (Bulletproof cover and diagonal or lateral movement are preferred.)

6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a semi or full-automatic long gun and a friend with a long gun.

7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. Yell "Fire!" Why "Fire"? Cops will come with the Fire Department, sirens often scare off the bad guys, or at least cause then to lose concentration and will.... and who is going to summon help if you yell "Intruder," "Glock" or "Winchester?"

9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.

10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

11. Stretch the rules. Always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

12. Have a plan.

13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. "No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy."

14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible, but remember, sheetrock walls and the like stop nothing but your pulse when bullets tear through them.

15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.

16. Don't drop your guard.

17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That's how you live if hit in your "good" side.

18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. Smiles, frowns and other facial expressions don't (In God we trust. Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.)

19. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.

20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you.

22. Be courteous to everyone, overly friendly to no one.

23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than "4".

25. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket." At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later.

26. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc.

27. Regardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature.

28. The only thing you EVER say afterwards is, "He said he was going to kill me. I believed him. I'm sorry, Officer, but I'm very upset now. I can't say anything more. Please speak with my attorney."

Finally, Drill Sergeant Frick's Rules For Un-armed Combat.
1. Never be unarmed.

jbrown50 · March 13, 2009, 12:49 PM

#1 Your adversary won't be using any rules

Ben Towe · March 13, 2009, 09:02 PM

Shoot to kill; slow is smooth, smooth is fast. And this:

SquidWarrior · March 19, 2009, 08:20 AM

There is no such thing as a fair fight, you do what you must to survive. I suppose the rules are set forth by federal, state, and local laws; but all of them are secondary to survival. Also, if you get shot, it does not mean you are dead and it does not mean you are out of the fight.

SpiritWalker · March 20, 2009, 09:24 AM

"If you ain't cheating... you ain't trying hard enough."

DanThaMan · March 20, 2009, 11:49 PM

If you find yourself in a fair gunfight... then your tactics suck.

mrt949 · March 21, 2009, 05:21 PM

One Shot Bang .They Are Dead .No Fighting.

bshnt2015 · March 21, 2009, 06:03 PM

I was told this,

"you are not going to a gunfight, that means the other guy is shooting back at you, what you want is to go to a shooting where you justifiably shot and kill the suspect"

ECHOONE · March 23, 2009, 09:37 AM

Being a vet I can say there are no rules in a gun fight,there are Rules of Engagement and Tactics but not enough room here to go thru them! Plenty of good books you can buy!

March 13, 2009, 12:49 PM	#78
jbrown50 Member Join Date: December 4, 2004 Posts: 96	rules of gunfight #1 Your adversary won't be using any rules

March 13, 2009, 09:02 PM	#79
Ben Towe Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,128	Shoot to kill; slow is smooth, smooth is fast. And this: __________________ 'Merica: Back to back World War Champs

March 20, 2009, 09:24 AM	#81
SpiritWalker Member Join Date: January 10, 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 61	"If you ain't cheating... you ain't trying hard enough." __________________ "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." George Orwell

March 21, 2009, 06:03 PM	#84
bshnt2015 Member Join Date: December 14, 2008 Location: CA & WA Posts: 22	rules of a gunfight I was told this, "you are not going to a gunfight, that means the other guy is shooting back at you, what you want is to go to a shooting where you justifiably shot and kill the suspect"

March 8, 2009, 09:01 PM	#76
oldcspsarge Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2008 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 441	IF you you know you are going to a gunfight...and brought a pistol...you didn't plan well !

March 8, 2009, 10:28 PM	#77
xtremehunter83 Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Posts: 24	pasted from another forum noticed some were posted like this but i didnt feel like deleting same ones out so bare with me Drill Sergeant Joe B. Fricks Rules For A Gunfight 1. Forget about knives, bats and fists. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring four times the ammunition you think you could ever need. 2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap - life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap - funerals are expensive 3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss. 4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly. 5. Move away from your attacker and go to cover. Distance is your friend. (Bulletproof cover and diagonal or lateral movement are preferred.) 6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a semi or full-automatic long gun and a friend with a long gun. 7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived. 8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. Yell "Fire!" Why "Fire"? Cops will come with the Fire Department, sirens often scare off the bad guys, or at least cause then to lose concentration and will.... and who is going to summon help if you yell "Intruder," "Glock" or "Winchester?" 9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun. 10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty. 11. Stretch the rules. Always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose. 12. Have a plan. 13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. "No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy." 14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible, but remember, sheetrock walls and the like stop nothing but your pulse when bullets tear through them. 15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours. 16. Don't drop your guard. 17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That's how you live if hit in your "good" side. 18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. Smiles, frowns and other facial expressions don't (In God we trust. Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.) 19. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH. 20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get. 21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you. 22. Be courteous to everyone, overly friendly to no one. 23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation. 24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than "4". 25. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket." At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later. 26. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc. 27. Regardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature. 28. The only thing you EVER say afterwards is, "He said he was going to kill me. I believed him. I'm sorry, Officer, but I'm very upset now. I can't say anything more. Please speak with my attorney." Finally, Drill Sergeant Frick's Rules For Un-armed Combat. 1. Never be unarmed.

March 19, 2009, 08:20 AM	#80
SquidWarrior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Posts: 33	There is no such thing as a fair fight, you do what you must to survive. I suppose the rules are set forth by federal, state, and local laws; but all of them are secondary to survival. Also, if you get shot, it does not mean you are dead and it does not mean you are out of the fight.

March 20, 2009, 11:49 PM	#82
DanThaMan Junior member Join Date: February 28, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 153	If you find yourself in a fair gunfight... then your tactics suck.

March 21, 2009, 05:21 PM	#83
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	One Shot Bang .They Are Dead .No Fighting.

March 23, 2009, 09:37 AM	#85
ECHOONE Junior member Join Date: February 10, 2008 Location: FL Posts: 204	Being a vet I can say there are no rules in a gun fight,there are Rules of Engagement and Tactics but not enough room here to go thru them! Plenty of good books you can buy!