My last Ruger

Super Sneaky Steve · March 18, 2013, 08:05 PM

OK, I'm mad at Ruger.

I had problems with my Vaquero in the past having tight throats. I sent it back, they did nothing. I bought a reamer and fixed it myself.

Now I have a new Shopkeeper Bearcat. The chambers are so tight my Winchester ammo won't fit, and the federal will fire form in a way that it's imossible to extract.

They replaced the cylinder, but still it's too tight to chamber a Winchester round.

So that's it. If I have to buy another reamer to fix this POS that's the last time Ruger gets my money.

Winchester_73 · March 18, 2013, 08:43 PM

Maybe its time to give Taurus a try?

Mauser8mm · March 18, 2013, 08:55 PM

Can't go wrong with a good ol' fashion Smith & Wesson!!

TennJed · March 18, 2013, 09:29 PM

Are you interested in selling and/or trading? I am being serious BTW

Budda · March 18, 2013, 09:30 PM

I love my taurus 85 snub! It outshoots my smith snub all day every day!

The all metal Tauri are great. The poly's .... Not so much.

kahrguy · March 19, 2013, 09:22 AM

Good ole s&w makes too many truds today all on its own. Buy a firearms today is trial and error with production as high as it is and parts assembers do one step of production only to pass it off to another. Not many skilled people like from days gone by.

newfrontier45 · March 19, 2013, 09:39 AM

It happens, just polish the chambers. I've had to do this with a handful of .22 revolvers. At present I've had two and a half dozen Rugers go through my hands and only ever had to send one back.

w748 · March 19, 2013, 09:42 AM

I have bought my last Ruger as well. I've been a sucker for them for a lot of years ( I've had more than a dozen of them) , all have had issues.
My last was a MKIII target that would not group ANYTHING close to 1" at 10 yds.

Never again!

Cheapshooter · March 19, 2013, 10:05 AM

And the Taurus hatred continues. On wait, the OP is talking about a Ruger!

temmi · March 19, 2013, 12:12 PM

Wow sorry you have such problems

nither my son's or mine have had any problems

Snake

FrankenMauser · March 19, 2013, 01:01 PM

Perhaps you should clean it.

Noreaster · March 19, 2013, 07:05 PM

Big Ruger fan and I'm sorry to hear about problems. My local gun store recently sent back some Ruger 1911s due to slide fit. I heard the Ruger plants are going 24/7 and they haven't gotten the new CNC machines up and running yet.

Super Sneaky Steve · March 19, 2013, 07:14 PM

What gets me isn't that they made a revolver with a defect, it's that I sent it back, with a letter telling them what's wrong, and they still say FU and send it back knowing the problem is still there.

It's just crappy service.

Looks like I can get a reamer for $45 from Brownells.

donato · March 19, 2013, 07:17 PM

Did they (Ruger CS) really say FU??

What did they really say about your problem?

Super Sneaky Steve · March 19, 2013, 07:56 PM

They replaced the cylinder. The holes are still too small. I would have liked them to measure the chambers then cut them to their proper size.

BlkHawk73 · March 19, 2013, 07:59 PM

It's a very rare thing hearing about poor service from Ruger.

Daggitt · March 19, 2013, 08:14 PM

I have many of their products. I know nothing of the customer service as I never had to send any of them back.

**44 AMP** · March 19, 2013, 08:15 PM

I have owned 12 Ruger handguns and have had a total of two problems over the last 30 years, one a Mk I magazine that disliked feeding some brands, and the other, the basepin retainer unscrewed and took off for the wilds on a .44 Mag Vaquero. All things considered, I'm pleased with them.

Saying Ruger told you to ....obscenity... is pretty strong language, and I take leave to doubt we should take you literally. It would support your position better if you were willing to tell us what Ruger actually said, and why you interpret it the way you are.

I think that one should always consider whether one is getting an unsatifactory response from a business, or just one from someone at the business.

I can't speak to what Ruger is producing today, haven't bought anything produced in the past year, but they have always been good in the past.

bonefamily · March 19, 2013, 08:21 PM

Did you check the bore with a bore gage and ask Ruger what their tolerances are? Is it in that tolerance or under? Perhaps giving Ruger the actual I.D. what you measure and compare to what they measure might get better answers and results.

**Spats McGee** · March 19, 2013, 08:25 PM

I am sorry to hear of your disappointment, but also consider the business aspect. Ruger is, after all, a for-profit business. How long does it take to have someone machine your original cylinder to acceptable specs? For comparison, how long does it take to have someone pull out a cylinder from the pile of cylinders and stick a new one in? The difference in time is lost money from Ruger's perspective. However, that only holds true if the 2nd cylinder actually functions correctly. To my mind, the problem is not so much that you got a poorly-sized cylinder, but that you got 2 of them.

donato · March 19, 2013, 09:09 PM

@ Sneaky Steve

The Winchester round that you are trying to chamber wouldn't happen to be a reload would it?

buck460XVR · March 19, 2013, 09:16 PM

Quote:

The Winchester round that you are trying to chamber wouldn't happen to be a reload would it?

I believe the Shopkeeper Bearcat is a .22 rimfire.

James K · March 19, 2013, 09:25 PM

It is not unknown for a lot of ammo (a "lot" meaning a batch, not a large quantity) of .22 ammo to be on the large side of the spec or even a tad over. If a gun won't accept any other brand or any other lot, then it's the gun; if it is only one lot, or one box, the problem may be the ammo.

Jim

k511 · March 19, 2013, 09:33 PM

+1 cant go wrong with a S&W revolver....always liked my rugers but, my smiths will always be my favorite..

donato · March 20, 2013, 07:32 AM

@ Buck,

Actually, I had the Vaquero on my mind when I asked that question.

March 18, 2013, 08:05 PM	#1
Super Sneaky Steve Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,250	My last Ruger OK, I'm mad at Ruger. I had problems with my Vaquero in the past having tight throats. I sent it back, they did nothing. I bought a reamer and fixed it myself. Now I have a new Shopkeeper Bearcat. The chambers are so tight my Winchester ammo won't fit, and the federal will fire form in a way that it's imossible to extract. They replaced the cylinder, but still it's too tight to chamber a Winchester round. So that's it. If I have to buy another reamer to fix this POS that's the last time Ruger gets my money.

March 18, 2013, 08:43 PM	#2
Winchester_73 Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,863	Maybe its time to give Taurus a try? __________________ Winchester 73, the TFL user that won the west

March 18, 2013, 08:55 PM	#3
Mauser8mm Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2012 Location: Near Gainesville Fl. Posts: 224	S&W Can't go wrong with a good ol' fashion Smith & Wesson!! __________________ Criminals obey gun laws in the same way politicians follow their oaths to office - Anonymous It's better to be silent and called a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt

March 18, 2013, 09:29 PM	#4
TennJed Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2010 Posts: 1,536	Are you interested in selling and/or trading? I am being serious BTW __________________ Find out just how tall I am By jumping in the middle of a river

March 18, 2013, 09:30 PM	#5
Budda Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2011 Location: Earth Posts: 446	I love my taurus 85 snub! It outshoots my smith snub all day every day! The all metal Tauri are great. The poly's .... Not so much. __________________ ...They have the internet on computers now....-Homer Simpson-

March 19, 2013, 09:22 AM	#6
kahrguy Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2012 Posts: 561	Good ole s&w makes too many truds today all on its own. Buy a firearms today is trial and error with production as high as it is and parts assembers do one step of production only to pass it off to another. Not many skilled people like from days gone by.

March 19, 2013, 09:39 AM	#7
newfrontier45 Junior member Join Date: February 23, 2012 Posts: 921	It happens, just polish the chambers. I've had to do this with a handful of .22 revolvers. At present I've had two and a half dozen Rugers go through my hands and only ever had to send one back.

March 19, 2013, 09:42 AM	#8
w748 Member Join Date: February 19, 2008 Location: High in the Rockies Posts: 89	I have bought my last Ruger as well. I've been a sucker for them for a lot of years ( I've had more than a dozen of them) , all have had issues. My last was a MKIII target that would not group ANYTHING close to 1" at 10 yds. Never again!

March 19, 2013, 10:05 AM	#9
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	And the Taurus hatred continues. On wait, the OP is talking about a Ruger! __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

March 19, 2013, 12:12 PM	#10
temmi Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 531	Wow sorry you have such problems nither my son's or mine have had any problems Snake

March 19, 2013, 01:01 PM	#11
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Perhaps you should clean it. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

March 19, 2013, 07:05 PM	#12
Noreaster Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2011 Location: New England Posts: 1,449	Big Ruger fan and I'm sorry to hear about problems. My local gun store recently sent back some Ruger 1911s due to slide fit. I heard the Ruger plants are going 24/7 and they haven't gotten the new CNC machines up and running yet.

March 19, 2013, 07:14 PM	#13
Super Sneaky Steve Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,250	What gets me isn't that they made a revolver with a defect, it's that I sent it back, with a letter telling them what's wrong, and they still say FU and send it back knowing the problem is still there. It's just crappy service. Looks like I can get a reamer for $45 from Brownells.

March 19, 2013, 07:17 PM	#14
donato Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2008 Location: AL Posts: 169	Did they (Ruger CS) really say FU?? What did they really say about your problem?

March 19, 2013, 07:56 PM	#15
Super Sneaky Steve Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,250	They replaced the cylinder. The holes are still too small. I would have liked them to measure the chambers then cut them to their proper size.

March 19, 2013, 07:59 PM	#16
BlkHawk73 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 1999 Location: Maine Posts: 756	It's a very rare thing hearing about poor service from Ruger. __________________ Shoot safe, shoot often

March 19, 2013, 08:14 PM	#17
Daggitt Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2011 Posts: 321	I have many of their products. I know nothing of the customer service as I never had to send any of them back.

March 19, 2013, 08:15 PM	#18
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,817	I have owned 12 Ruger handguns and have had a total of two problems over the last 30 years, one a Mk I magazine that disliked feeding some brands, and the other, the basepin retainer unscrewed and took off for the wilds on a .44 Mag Vaquero. All things considered, I'm pleased with them. Saying Ruger told you to ....obscenity... is pretty strong language, and I take leave to doubt we should take you literally. It would support your position better if you were willing to tell us what Ruger actually said, and why you interpret it the way you are. I think that one should always consider whether one is getting an unsatifactory response from a business, or just one from someone at the business. I can't speak to what Ruger is producing today, haven't bought anything produced in the past year, but they have always been good in the past. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

March 19, 2013, 08:21 PM	#19
bonefamily Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2012 Location: central Ohio Posts: 304	Did you check the bore with a bore gage and ask Ruger what their tolerances are? Is it in that tolerance or under? Perhaps giving Ruger the actual I.D. what you measure and compare to what they measure might get better answers and results. __________________ Bryan

March 19, 2013, 08:25 PM	#20
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	I am sorry to hear of your disappointment, but also consider the business aspect. Ruger is, after all, a for-profit business. How long does it take to have someone machine your original cylinder to acceptable specs? For comparison, how long does it take to have someone pull out a cylinder from the pile of cylinders and stick a new one in? The difference in time is lost money from Ruger's perspective. However, that only holds true if the 2nd cylinder actually functions correctly. To my mind, the problem is not so much that you got a poorly-sized cylinder, but that you got 2 of them. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

March 19, 2013, 09:09 PM	#21
donato Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2008 Location: AL Posts: 169	@ Sneaky Steve The Winchester round that you are trying to chamber wouldn't happen to be a reload would it?

March 19, 2013, 09:25 PM	#23
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	It is not unknown for a lot of ammo (a "lot" meaning a batch, not a large quantity) of .22 ammo to be on the large side of the spec or even a tad over. If a gun won't accept any other brand or any other lot, then it's the gun; if it is only one lot, or one box, the problem may be the ammo. Jim

March 19, 2013, 09:33 PM	#24
k511 Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 461	+1 cant go wrong with a S&W revolver....always liked my rugers but, my smiths will always be my favorite..

March 20, 2013, 07:32 AM	#25
donato Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2008 Location: AL Posts: 169	@ Buck, Actually, I had the Vaquero on my mind when I asked that question.