.44Mag 215 Grainer LSWC

mineralman55 · November 22, 2012, 09:25 AM

I'm looking for a .44Mag 215 grain LSWC with the green or "moly" coating. I've found a few sources for 240/250 grain LSWC or a 215 round nosed flat point with the coatings (Bayou Bullets and Billy Bullets), but I specifically want a coated 215 grain LSWC. Anyone know of a source for these?

30Cal · November 23, 2012, 03:05 PM

Short of casting your own, (a considerable expense to get started), you might try Missouri Bullet Co....don't remember if they have them or not.

I've cast Lyman's 429215 gc, a Thompson design from the 30's, with and without the GC. Either way, it's a fine bullet for any of the .44's. Cast of wheel weight alloy, and sized .430", it'll do just over 1" gps at 25 yds from a rest, iron sights. Ruger or S&W's both love it. Sized to .432" and lubed with Lee Liquid Alox (LLA), it'll do the same at 50 yds from my Marlin 336 carbine in .44 Magnum. I use Hornady GC's for magnum velocities and AA#9 powder. Win 231 or HP38 does for anything below 1150 fps in a hand gun. Cast from Wheel Weights, with just enough tin to allow the mold to fill out nicely, it weighs 220 gr with GC and alloy. For lube, the old NRA 50/50 Alox/Beeswax does nicely, but LLA does as well and is ten times as fast to lube.

HTH's Rod

reloader28 · November 24, 2012, 09:32 AM

Why does it have to be moly coated?
Its a lead bullet. I cant see it helping anything.

mineralman55 · November 25, 2012, 05:13 PM

The green coated bullets such as the Bayou Bullets and the Ferrara Bullets produce about 1/10 the amount of smoke that equivalent uncoatted lead bullets make. Outdoors that doesn't amount to much, but indoors it makes for a much more enjoyable range trip.

Rifleman1776 · November 26, 2012, 08:57 AM

Bullets smoke?

I have used 210 gr. hard lead SWCs only lubed with considerable success.

Wallyl · November 26, 2012, 12:37 PM

I use the Lee 214 SWC sized to .430" in the .44 Special/ Magnum with 6.0 & 8.0 of Red Dot respectively. A very nice shooting bullet.

Ozzieman · November 26, 2012, 06:27 PM

I use Penn bullets.
For hand guns I use his 240 SWCBB and for my 44 rifle his 240 TCBB. He doesn’t use molly green but the red he uses has minimal smoke.
If you don’t have luck call him and ask if he can make you some, he does do special orders.
http://www.pennbullets.com/44/44-caliber.html

Rifleman1776 · November 27, 2012, 01:51 PM

I'm still puzzled about the bullet smoking thing.
I have shot many thousands of rounds of hard cast bullets out of my Ruger Redhawk in .44 mag. There were conventionally lubed. Smoke was not present and never even thought about.
I shoot traditional muzzle loaders a lot and use real black powder. That smokes but the 'bullets' do not.
Bullets smoke?

Nah. Somebody is making funny.

mineralman55 · November 28, 2012, 07:42 AM

I don't know what is so "difficult" about this. I asked for something specific and found something close enough to meet my needs (Billy Bullets, 200 gr. RNFP coated).

If you get no smoke shooting uncoated, cast lead bullets, good for you. My personal experience says different.

zippy13 · November 28, 2012, 01:12 PM

Quote:

If you get no smoke shooting uncoated, cast lead bullets, good for you. My personal experience says different.

+1

November 22, 2012, 09:25 AM	#1
mineralman55 Member Join Date: September 29, 2009 Location: deep south Posts: 99	.44Mag 215 Grainer LSWC I'm looking for a .44Mag 215 grain LSWC with the green or "moly" coating. I've found a few sources for 240/250 grain LSWC or a 215 round nosed flat point with the coatings (Bayou Bullets and Billy Bullets), but I specifically want a coated 215 grain LSWC. Anyone know of a source for these?

November 25, 2012, 05:13 PM	#4
mineralman55 Member Join Date: September 29, 2009 Location: deep south Posts: 99	Coated Bullets The green coated bullets such as the Bayou Bullets and the Ferrara Bullets produce about 1/10 the amount of smoke that equivalent uncoatted lead bullets make. Outdoors that doesn't amount to much, but indoors it makes for a much more enjoyable range trip.

November 26, 2012, 12:37 PM	#6
Wallyl Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2011 Posts: 255	215 LSWC I use the Lee 214 SWC sized to .430" in the .44 Special/ Magnum with 6.0 & 8.0 of Red Dot respectively. A very nice shooting bullet.

November 26, 2012, 06:27 PM	#7
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 6,117	I use Penn bullets. For hand guns I use his 240 SWCBB and for my 44 rifle his 240 TCBB. He doesn’t use molly green but the red he uses has minimal smoke. If you don’t have luck call him and ask if he can make you some, he does do special orders. http://www.pennbullets.com/44/44-caliber.html __________________ It was a sad day when I discovered my universal remote control did not in fact control the universe. Did you hear about the latest study.....5 out of 6 liberals say that Russian Roulette is safe.

November 23, 2012, 03:05 PM	#2
30Cal Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2002 Posts: 1,264	Short of casting your own, (a considerable expense to get started), you might try Missouri Bullet Co....don't remember if they have them or not. I've cast Lyman's 429215 gc, a Thompson design from the 30's, with and without the GC. Either way, it's a fine bullet for any of the .44's. Cast of wheel weight alloy, and sized .430", it'll do just over 1" gps at 25 yds from a rest, iron sights. Ruger or S&W's both love it. Sized to .432" and lubed with Lee Liquid Alox (LLA), it'll do the same at 50 yds from my Marlin 336 carbine in .44 Magnum. I use Hornady GC's for magnum velocities and AA#9 powder. Win 231 or HP38 does for anything below 1150 fps in a hand gun. Cast from Wheel Weights, with just enough tin to allow the mold to fill out nicely, it weighs 220 gr with GC and alloy. For lube, the old NRA 50/50 Alox/Beeswax does nicely, but LLA does as well and is ten times as fast to lube. HTH's Rod

November 24, 2012, 09:32 AM	#3
reloader28 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2009 Location: nw wyoming Posts: 1,061	Why does it have to be moly coated? Its a lead bullet. I cant see it helping anything.

November 26, 2012, 08:57 AM	#5
Rifleman1776 Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,309	Bullets smoke? I have used 210 gr. hard lead SWCs only lubed with considerable success.

November 27, 2012, 01:51 PM	#8
Rifleman1776 Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,309	I'm still puzzled about the bullet smoking thing. I have shot many thousands of rounds of hard cast bullets out of my Ruger Redhawk in .44 mag. There were conventionally lubed. Smoke was not present and never even thought about. I shoot traditional muzzle loaders a lot and use real black powder. That smokes but the 'bullets' do not. Bullets smoke? Nah. Somebody is making funny.

November 28, 2012, 07:42 AM	#9
mineralman55 Member Join Date: September 29, 2009 Location: deep south Posts: 99	Coated bullets I don't know what is so "difficult" about this. I asked for something specific and found something close enough to meet my needs (Billy Bullets, 200 gr. RNFP coated). If you get no smoke shooting uncoated, cast lead bullets, good for you. My personal experience says different.