How free is your state?

Te Anau · June 6, 2009, 01:02 PM

Here is the just released list of how states stack up in the freedom department.New Hampshire leads the list freedom wise while the socialists round out the bottom ten.Rhode Island surprised me.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=91539
or
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/05/0...nk-least-free/

1. New Hampshire
0.432
2. Colorado
0.421
3. South Dakota
0.392
4. Idaho
0.356
5. Texas
0.346
6. Missouri
0.320
7. Tennessee
0.284
8. Arizona
0.279
9. Virginia
0.275
10. North Dakota
0.268
11. Utah
0.250
12. Kansas
0.210
13. Indiana
0.208
14. Michigan
0.206
15. Wyoming
0.193
16. Iowa
0.183
17. Georgia
0.146
18. Oklahoma
0.143
19. Montana
0.125
20. Pennsylvania
0.102
21. Alabama
0.092
22. Florida
0.068
23. North Carolina
0.019
24. Nevada
0.013
25. Mississippi
-0.004
26. Delaware
-0.008
27. Oregon
-0.009
28. Nebraska
-0.018
29. Arkansas
-0.023
30. South Carolina
-0.040
31. Alaska
-0.071
32. Kentucky
-0.082
33. West Virginia
-0.097
34. Louisiana
-0.110
35. Minnesota
-0.111
36. New Mexico
-0.150
37. Wisconsin
-0.199
38. Ohio
-0.205
39. Maine
-0.214
40. Vermont
-0.217
41. Connecticut
-0.225
42. Illinois
-0.238
43. Massachusetts
-0.242
44. Washington
-0.275
45. Hawaii
-0.304
46. Maryland
-0.405
47. California
-0.413
48. Rhode Island
-0.430
49. New Jersey
-0.457
50. New York
-0.784

hogdogs · June 6, 2009, 01:35 PM

TE, While I won't be the one to hit the tri-angle button on this thread but...
Personal freedoms is a far cry from just 2A rights thus I do not see the gun related or gun related laws and civil rights connection...
Plus these numbers could be easily skewed...
For instance the louisiana laws against britches showing boxer shorts... is that included...
IBTL
Brent

Jofaba · June 6, 2009, 01:36 PM

Geeze, the way life should be eh? I'm surprised to see Maine so low and just a few miles separate me from the freest state.

It's not so bad here. I'll have to check out the links to see why we're so far down the line.

Surprised about NY though. I woulda figured California.

Brian Pfleuger · June 6, 2009, 01:42 PM

"Rankings were determined by measuring the personal and economic freedoms of the citizens of the various states coupled with the size and cost of government, education regulations, Second Amendment restrictions, as well as the amount of interference via regulations and police agencies on the populace."

These have nothing to do, directly, with freedom.

NY ranks at the bottom of the list due to high taxes, education regulations and size and cost of government. None of those things are equal to "freedom" in my mind. High taxes and big government suck? Yep, sucks a lot. Not a freedom issue. Guess who keeps putting the idiots back in office? The FREELY voting, freely living in NY state, NYers.

NY is not nearly as bad as it's reputation would have people believe. Far too many people think that NY = NY City, which it decidedly does not. The rest of the state is very nice indeed.

In short, I'm calling this BS.

Te Anau · June 6, 2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Personal freedoms is a far cry from just 2A rights thus I do not see the gun related or gun related laws and civil rights connection...

I think personal freedom qualifies for this forum.

Quote:

Read Only Archive - Round table discussions range from the Bill of Rights, to concealed carry, to general political issues.

Freedom should be a general political issue if it isn't already.

Al Norris · June 6, 2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Te Anau

I think personal freedom qualifies for this forum.

No it doesn't, but see my next response.

Quote:

Freedom should be a general political issue if it isn't already.

Bingo!

General Political issues are off topic.

Closed.

June 6, 2009, 01:02 PM	#1
Te Anau Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2004 Location: Somewhere south of the No Posts: 3,824	How free is your state? Here is the just released list of how states stack up in the freedom department.New Hampshire leads the list freedom wise while the socialists round out the bottom ten.Rhode Island surprised me. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=91539 or http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/05/0...nk-least-free/ 1. New Hampshire 0.432 2. Colorado 0.421 3. South Dakota 0.392 4. Idaho 0.356 5. Texas 0.346 6. Missouri 0.320 7. Tennessee 0.284 8. Arizona 0.279 9. Virginia 0.275 10. North Dakota 0.268 11. Utah 0.250 12. Kansas 0.210 13. Indiana 0.208 14. Michigan 0.206 15. Wyoming 0.193 16. Iowa 0.183 17. Georgia 0.146 18. Oklahoma 0.143 19. Montana 0.125 20. Pennsylvania 0.102 21. Alabama 0.092 22. Florida 0.068 23. North Carolina 0.019 24. Nevada 0.013 25. Mississippi -0.004 26. Delaware -0.008 27. Oregon -0.009 28. Nebraska -0.018 29. Arkansas -0.023 30. South Carolina -0.040 31. Alaska -0.071 32. Kentucky -0.082 33. West Virginia -0.097 34. Louisiana -0.110 35. Minnesota -0.111 36. New Mexico -0.150 37. Wisconsin -0.199 38. Ohio -0.205 39. Maine -0.214 40. Vermont -0.217 41. Connecticut -0.225 42. Illinois -0.238 43. Massachusetts -0.242 44. Washington -0.275 45. Hawaii -0.304 46. Maryland -0.405 47. California -0.413 48. Rhode Island -0.430 49. New Jersey -0.457 50. New York -0.784 __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." --American author Mark Twain (1835-1910) Last edited by Te Anau; June 6, 2009 at 01:17 PM.

June 6, 2009, 01:42 PM	#4
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	"Rankings were determined by measuring the personal and economic freedoms of the citizens of the various states coupled with the size and cost of government, education regulations, Second Amendment restrictions, as well as the amount of interference via regulations and police agencies on the populace." These have nothing to do, directly, with freedom. NY ranks at the bottom of the list due to high taxes, education regulations and size and cost of government. None of those things are equal to "freedom" in my mind. High taxes and big government suck? Yep, sucks a lot. Not a freedom issue. Guess who keeps putting the idiots back in office? The FREELY voting, freely living in NY state, NYers. NY is not nearly as bad as it's reputation would have people believe. Far too many people think that NY = NY City, which it decidedly does not. The rest of the state is very nice indeed. In short, I'm calling this BS. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

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June 6, 2009, 01:35 PM	#2
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	TE, While I won't be the one to hit the tri-angle button on this thread but... Personal freedoms is a far cry from just 2A rights thus I do not see the gun related or gun related laws and civil rights connection... Plus these numbers could be easily skewed... For instance the louisiana laws against britches showing boxer shorts... is that included... IBTL Brent

June 6, 2009, 01:36 PM	#3
Jofaba Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2009 Posts: 322	Geeze, the way life should be eh? I'm surprised to see Maine so low and just a few miles separate me from the freest state. It's not so bad here. I'll have to check out the links to see why we're so far down the line. Surprised about NY though. I woulda figured California.